Am I reading too much into this - how to proceed here?

[MrEkko]

So I met this girl through OLD a couple of weeks ago. We went on 3 dates, had good chemistry in all of them, she was initiating texting half the time to set up dates too etc. I asked her to come back to mine last Wed but she wanted to get home (she is the type that needs to go to bed early, wake up early and stick to a schedule). 3 days later on Sat she texts me during the day that she was out with friends and about to leave and if I wanted to get some drinks with her before I went out. She came by my area we went for a couple of drinks and then came back to mine and had sex. The following day (Sunday) I was around her area at some friends and we met up afterwards at her local bar and then went to hers and had sex. So far so good.

Since then she hasn't initiated any texting, I texted her Tuesday to set up a date and she was quite responsive, nothing unusual. We went out tonight for dinner and drinks and when I suggested we go to mine afterwards she turned it down cos she has stuff to do and get ready for a wedding tomorrow.
Now, the date was fun with no negative signs. Maybe I am reading too much into this but it threw me that she said no as it wasn't even that late (21:30) and she didn't suggest we go to hers instead either (we were 30' distance from both our houses). Combined with the less texting from her side and her whole demeanor it gives me that uneasy feeling.

My question is how do I take it from here? My first thought is to not text again until I hear from her but I don't want to look butthurt because of this. Obviously it's not the end of the world we didn't have sex it just gives me that weird feeling and makes me wonder if she is into me. And I don't want to be going out just for food and drinks at this point.

 

[Zimbabwe]

You already know this but you need to pull back and see if she reaches out, it doesn't make you look butthurt.

 

[GreatHornedOwl]

You're reading too much into it. She clearly seems interested. You guys are just starting out. Keep cool.

It's still your job to initiate. A lot of guys are going to tell you to wait for her to contact you. In this situation, I think that's being too passive. A woman is not going to go along and agree with everything you suggest. They will test you here and there to see how you react. If you stop contacting her, she will know it spooked you, which shows a lack of confidence.

 

[darksprezzatura]

So I met this girl through OLD a couple of weeks ago. We went on 3 dates, had good chemistry in all of them, she was initiating texting half the time to set up dates too etc. I asked her to come back to mine last Wed but she wanted to get home (she is the type that needs to go to bed early, wake up early and stick to a schedule). 3 days later on Sat she texts me during the day that she was out with friends and about to leave and if I wanted to get some drinks with her before I went out. She came by my area we went for a couple of drinks and then came back to mine and had sex. The following day (Sunday) I was around her area at some friends and we met up afterwards at her local bar and then went to hers and had sex. So far so good.

Since then she hasn't initiated any texting, I texted her Tuesday to set up a date and she was quite responsive, nothing unusual. We went out tonight for dinner and drinks and when I suggested we go to mine afterwards she turned it down cos she has stuff to do and get ready for a wedding tomorrow.
Now, the date was fun with no negative signs. Maybe I am reading too much into this but it threw me that she said no as it wasn't even that late (21:30) and she didn't suggest we go to hers instead either (we were 30' distance from both our houses). Combined with the less texting from her side and her whole demeanor it gives me that uneasy feeling.

My question is how do I take it from here? My first thought is to not text again until I hear from her but I don't want to look butthurt because of this. Obviously it's not the end of the world we didn't have sex it just gives me that weird feeling and makes me wonder if she is into me. And I don't want to be going out just for food and drinks at this point.

The play she's pulling on you is the kind I pull on girls. If you want her to reach out, create space for her to want you.

Go talk to new girls setup new dates, get some workouts in, make some money.

 

[Stuffnu]

You already know this but you need to pull back and see if she reaches out, it doesn't make you look butthurt.

Yes pull back - stat! This has happened to me a few times before. Good times, sex and noticed a couple of behavior changes after the fact. The worst thing you can do is continue to pursue as it will chase her away. Sit back and relax. She will come back to you or ask where you’ve been. Remember you’re a busy man.

If she disappears, so be it. You got laid. Good job and keep hunting for the next one.

 

[MrEkko]

Thanks for the replies, I wanted to confirm my course of action and it seems pulling back a bit is the way to go.

 

[BadBoy89]

She came by my area we went for a couple of drinks and then came back to mine and had sex. The following day (Sunday) I was around her area at some friends and we met up afterwards at her local bar and then went to hers and had sex. So far so good.

Obviously it's not the end of the world we didn't have sex it just gives me that weird feeling and makes me wonder if she is into me.

She has sex with you twice in 2 days and you’ll wonder if she’s “into you”?

What do want from these women? We want them to obsess over us 24 hours? Be nurtured all the time after having sex? Have them love us unconditionally?

Come on guys. Once you have sex, that’s it. There is nothing more you should want from them.

 

[MrEkko]

She has sex with you twice in 2 days and you’ll wonder if she’s “into you”?

What do want from these women? We want them to obsess over us 24 hours? Be nurtured all the time after having sex? Have them love us unconditionally?

Come on guys. Once you have sex, that’s it. There is nothing more you should want from them.

Well when you put it like that..

 

[Bingo-Player]

She has sex with you twice in 2 days and you’ll wonder if she’s “into you”?

What do want from these women? We want them to obsess over us 24 hours? Be nurtured all the time after having sex? Have them love us unconditionally?

Come on guys. Once you have sex, that’s it. There is nothing more you should want from them.

I concur

You hold all the aces , just dont fvck it up by getting all needy

One of my friends met a chick 6 weeks ago he has now moved her into his house and is calling her his "wife"

It's going to end in carnage

 

[MrEkko]

MrEkko
After you fck her the feel goods are on her.
Any relationship/plate dynamic its the girls job to keep it going. If she does not then who cares. Move on.
Plates spin themselves if she sees enough value in fcking you.

You are the voice of reason that my ego needs sometimes.

 

[RickTheToad]

So I met this girl through OLD a couple of weeks ago. We went on 3 dates, had good chemistry in all of them, she was initiating texting half the time to set up dates too etc. I asked her to come back to mine last Wed but she wanted to get home (she is the type that needs to go to bed early, wake up early and stick to a schedule). 3 days later on Sat she texts me during the day that she was out with friends and about to leave and if I wanted to get some drinks with her before I went out. She came by my area we went for a couple of drinks and then came back to mine and had sex. The following day (Sunday) I was around her area at some friends and we met up afterwards at her local bar and then went to hers and had sex. So far so good.

Since then she hasn't initiated any texting, I texted her Tuesday to set up a date and she was quite responsive, nothing unusual. We went out tonight for dinner and drinks and when I suggested we go to mine afterwards she turned it down cos she has stuff to do and get ready for a wedding tomorrow.
Now, the date was fun with no negative signs. Maybe I am reading too much into this but it threw me that she said no as it wasn't even that late (21:30) and she didn't suggest we go to hers instead either (we were 30' distance from both our houses). Combined with the less texting from her side and her whole demeanor it gives me that uneasy feeling.

My question is how do I take it from here? My first thought is to not text again until I hear from her but I don't want to look butthurt because of this. Obviously it's not the end of the world we didn't have sex it just gives me that weird feeling and makes me wonder if she is into me. And I don't want to be going out just for food and drinks at this point.

Move on to other prey and if she contacts you, setup a time and day for her to come to your place. You will "cook" for her and she's the dessert.

 

[Bokanovsky]

80/20 bro
50/50 is a no no.
Stop asking her out. Stop talking to her altogether if she is not 80% chase.

I'm not sure this is good advice. The 80/20 thing may work with the 6's and 7's who have a very high level of interest but not with the hot girls.

 

[typical]

Its a universal rule. Its a hard rule. Learn it now or pay later. Im so sure of this rule that if a girl is not working for you. She does not value you.

1-10 scale does not matter when it comes to the value 80/20 rule.

I seriously don’t believe in the so called “Rules”. If you have just started dating women then yea use the “Rules” to guide you. BUT what you need to do is build up your own intuition and learn to read between the lines of what people say and what they do.

Stop breaking this down into a science like nerds. This is supposed to be natural supposed to be easy. You have to develop your own “Game” and run with it.

Also if you’ve had sex with the women twice in two days then ask yourself if you can message her crudely after a day or so and say “I want to bend you over my car and **** you wild”.
If you can pull off a message like this or even a voice message like this and she is still literally eating out of your hands THEN that is what is called very high interest. It also tells you that on your dates you stoked the Fire very well.

Now if being able to be this bold isn’t going to end well then you need to keep using the “Rules” to guide you and make sure you are spinning plates as the different experiences with different women will hone your social skills extremely well.

Remember the more you practice with different women the better you will get.
OR just go the Pook route and gain 10-15 kgs of pure muscle and let your sexuality flow .... your choice

 

[Bokanovsky]

Its a universal rule. Its a hard rule. Learn it now or pay later. Im so sure of this rule that if a girl is not working for you. She does not value you.

1-10 scale does not matter when it comes to the value 80/20 rule.

If only the world was this black and white. All you need to do to keep a woman interested is to rarely message her first. Brilliant!

Sorry, but these simple-minded strategies don't work in the real world. Especially if you're dealing with a hot woman who has multiple dudes trying to get with her (which describes just about every hot woman). I'm not saying that you should be needy and text her non-stop but there has to be balance. Letting her do 80% of the initiating is just not going to work. If she's getting texts from multiple other guys, no matter how much she may be into you, her attention will start to drift if you seldom text her first. I know this because it works the same way for men. If I have multiple plates and one of them rarely initiates, my attention is going to shift to the other plates, even if I'm more attracted to the first one.

 

[typical]

Naturals end badly brother. You need a good dose of Roissey.



Who the fck tells an open forum member how to address something?

You misunderstand the word rules. Whether you are a natural or not does not matter. The rules are their. Gor god sakes the sun and moon are governed by rules. So is every other mating mammal on the planet.

Ive done and said far more sexualized things with women. Telling a chic you want to bend her over a car is ammeter shyt bro. Lol
Ive been at this a long time. Call me a semi beta natural who is breaking down the X and O's later on in life.
If a natural does not find the RP eventually and the "science" then when he gets older hes going to crash and burn harder because he is going to identify himself as the game he has played. Lots of depression there.

Heartiste On Game.

But the Externally Validated Natural who has spent a lifetime leaning on his looks/social connections/fame to get laid has a dilemma. As a reader puts it: I’ve said it many times before, the most pathetic thing in the world is a natural who has lost his mojo. The very blessing that makes The Natural an early adopter ladykiller is the curse that hobbles him later in life when challenges arise that introduce cracks to his impenetrable edifice of entitlement.

You see, the Externally Validated Natural has not bothered to learn the crimson arts. He has not mastered the state control that is necessary when inevitable dry spells occur, or when glances from women are fewer and farther between, or when uppity women with visions of mcmansion upgrades dancing in their heads give him **** he is not accustomed to receiving. <-------------True shyt

So you’re an expert at getting women ..... wow cool story ..... I don’t give a fu(k.

More to life then learning every single trick in pickup artistry.

Also all the rules and tips and tricks have been stolen from watching naturals in actions ‍

Rules this rules that no wonder you’re all failures at “LIFE”.

Edit : I’ve read most of heartiste and roissy. There’s nothing special about either just some good solid advice. But like Pook said the more you cling to “Manual” the more it becomes your crux.

Women are but a small part of your life ... what else are you doing ?

You can read all the “Manuals” about fixing a car engine BUT nothing beats going out and actually attempting to fix said engine. Experience trumps everything. Of course still read up what you can BUT rules are meant to be broken hence why I pay next no taxes .

 

[typical]

Playing amazing guitar solos and killing wild beasts and climbing mountains bro.
Go puff up somewhere else. Everything has a foundation.
What pook is saying is that the manual needs to be used less as you get better.
Foundations are never abandoned.
If you as a man dont have any rules you live by then you have no boundaries either.

I think we are saying the same thing.

But I have a vastly different opinion on “Rules for Life”. Rules are created to control the average person so they never question the status quo and stay obedient to a certain degree. I do have moral boundaries BUT these are not from rules created by external parties but more boundaries of things which I will or will not tolerate.

Most of the so called social rules can be easily broken without any repercussions as long as you maintain your frame (regardless of the other person being a man or female or a group).

Back to the point of 80/20 I’m sorry but having a rule for interacting with humans (most of which are very emotional beings) is a very bad outlook in life. I’m not saying you “chase” after people BUT many people require a bit more prodding and “seducing” then just giving them 20% of your attention. Depending on the situation which you will have to gauge for yourself you decide what level of attention and interaction you put in. By sticking to this rule you may end up losing out in many good life experience and business opportunities.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Its out there working as you type this. Dont bother with it then. Your frustration will bring you full circle back to it.

Here in lies your mindset problem. Everyone one of you guys that say this crap spit out in your argument the very thing that plagues you. You just SAID IT. Lol
You pedzlstalize beautiful women BECAUSE you chase too much. By action you are being needy

Your other problem is caring about her orbiters. Guys that are with beautiful women learn to ignore "other dudes" fairly quickly in life. Comes with the package

LMAO. You literally know nothing about me but thanks for "diagnosing" my problem with your pop psychology. We are talking about early interactions, when the two of you are not exclusive and when she has many other options. Not "orbiters. Other options. And as shocking as it may sound, attractive women do have options. If you think that texting a woman who has shown interest in you is putting her on a pedestal, I don't know what to tell you.

 

[rjc149]

Sometimes, chicks just want to hit it and quit it too. I’ve been where you are. It happens.

If she’s playing distancing games, you have nothing to lose by asking her out one more time. Flush that sh!t out now and remove the possibility that maybe she’s been busy, was on her period, just wasn’t horny etc. If she blows you off for sex again, cut bait. Playettes definitely exist.

Give it a week of radio silence. Don’t go 2 weeks. It’s okay to be a little persistent and act a little entitled.

Honest question: how were you in bed? Any whiskey d!ck issues? I took a cute black girl home once and had beer/coke d!ck all night while trying to bang her with a floppy hard on. It was memorably hilarious. Never saw her again. I’ve had performance issues with other dates where I was drinking, which may have contributed to her loss of interest.

 

[Bokanovsky]

My pop psychology is based off of the very men that built this sphere. The real warriors. Not the cluck bait RP band wagon guys.
You are a man. Start acting like one with women.
Stop being polarized by her face. Stop paying her with your attention. Attention is everything to a girl. Ugly or sexy. It doesn't matter.
80/20 is as real as the soil you walk on. And yet some how you feel vindicated by typing "LMAO" at my rebuttal like z twitter clown.
You do what you want with the info. Dont forget that letting the hot girl walk because you refuse to chase her is not only a loss of a hot girl but also A BOOST for your self worth. <---------- thats the part that you are afraid of.

"Ill never meet another hot girl for sex" thought is man poison for your soul.

What is wrong with you exactly? I have not seen anyone get so triggered ever since I told a girl in one my social science classes (many years ago) that there are only two genders You have your opinion, I have mine. And I really don't give a fvck which "real [internet] warrior" you've borrowed your beliefs from. Accept the fact that not everyone is going to agree with you and you'll have a much easier time in this life.

 

[MrEkko]

Honest question: how were you in bed? Any whiskey d!ck issues? I took a cute black girl home once and had beer/coke d!ck all night while trying to bang her with a floppy hard on. It was memorably hilarious. Never saw her again. I’ve had performance issues with other dates where I was drinking, which may have contributed to her loss of interest.

it happens occasionally but not this time. Based on feedback and experiences I think I’m good but I’m no Johnny Sinns admittedly.