Am I in the friend zone and wasting my time?

unnamed04

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Hi Guys, sorry this is kind of long but here goes... Ok after finishing I realise that this is REALLY long so if you do actually read any of this I really appreciate it :)

The Background:

The girl in question A, is my current case of minor one-itis sadly. I've known her for about 4 months, I also work with her. Over the 4 months I guess I have been in contact with her regularly, but she usually initiates the conversations, msgs.

Now I am only 17 here and have just got my drivers license 2 weeks ago, which was a major problem in the past.

One situation happened about 2 months after I had known her, I went over to her place to watch a few movies, completely oblivious to the fact that she had a boyfriend, which she to this day has never mentioned to me. She broke up with him after 6 weeks or so, which ended about a month and a half ago I guess. Yeah that was a bad night, was a long walk home lol.

Fast forward to 3 weeks ago, I go on holidays for a week, I speak to her a few times on the phone (arg I can't help it!) and the conversations are great, laughing the whole time. The next week and a bit she is on holidays. I speak to her once and get/give a couple of msgs here and there, then contact stops for about 6 days then she comes to a little work gathering last friday. She said a few days ago that she had sent me a msg asking me if I was going, but she had no credit so it didn't go through. Throughout the conversations we joke about getting married and having 173 kids. And ever since it was brought up she is always asking me when we are getting married.

Anyway she shows up, and this is the gay part. Some other guy I work with, lets call him Sleeze; Is an alright bloke but he is the worlds biggest sleeze and its really sad. Anyway, he was all over A from the moment she got there. She really does look bored, then a girl friend of mine (C) who's house it was asked her what was up and she said that she thought I wasn't talking to her because of Sleeze. Which was true, but I wasn't not talking to her, just never had the chance, she never made the effort to leave him, except when she came inside and sat down but Sleeze was quick on the case. I went out to pick a few people up from down the road and when I came back, she's walking up the driveway and says to me "Thanks for the great conversation tonight unnamed04 it was great" or something like that and shook my hand and walked off. I kinda just shrugged it off said goodbye but didn't really enjoy the night from then on, which I regret.

I worked with her saturday morning, she got a bit cut at me somehow and didn't really say much to me except telling me that she wasn't talking to me lol. She left without saying goodbye. Before she left I asked her what was up and she said it was a buildup of things from about a week ago. The past week of interactions between us included one conversation on the first day, then a lack of comunication for 6 days then "me not talking to her" on friday night.

Saturday night I spoke to her for a little bit where she asked why I wasn't talking to her, and then she brought up another girl friend of mine, B, who I am really good friends with (who has a b/f by the way). I was talking to her most of the night, and I guess that could have looked bad from her point of view. I asked her how I could make it up to her, and she was like "well there's this guy I know who owe's me a road trip" which lightened up the conversation as previously we had been joking about her earning her way into my car for a road trip.

Sunday night, B has another work gathering at her place, same people minus a few so there is like 7 people there. I invite A and she comes. She shows up, and she looked really good may I point out. Yet again Sleeze is on the case. This time however I join the game and the 3 of us sit there chatting for a while, during which he never leaves for aone second. Well she left after a bit and that was the end of that night. B finally decides to appologise for being the biggest ****-block in the world and says that he isn't intrested in her and that he wouldn't talk to her again if thats what was needed and kept on going about how sorry he was. We all drank a bit more and went to bed. I woke up at 5 am and went home only to come back, to pick up Sleeze and B and drive Sleeze home the spent the morning/afternoon with B and then dropped her home. I went into work to get my shifts, and to my suprise A was there.

On a side note, this friday comming (today is wednesday) me, A and C are going to Luna Park (which is a little amusement park thing a couple of hours away). Anyway, I'm at work so I decide to tell A that on thursday we are going on our road trip and getting married haha. She responds well, I don't really set any fine details and I leave and tell her I'll talk to her about it later. At that time she also tells me that we need to have another movie night.

Tuesday, I get called into work 6-11, I knew she had 5-11. I don't really like working with her, not because I don't enjoy it, because that couldn't be further from the truth, but it really does screw things up. By the luck of the draw, B and Sleeze were also working. Now the shift was pretty good, pretty much every time she looked at me she laughed or smiled. We had a few blank chats here and there. But still she said that this shift "raised some issues". All 4 of us finished at 11, I was taking B and Sleeze home, offered A a lift but she refused. All good, afterwards I sent her a msg asking what issues were raised and she replies "big issues unnamed04, big issues. big talk ahead of us". So I called her then and we had a bit of a talk.

The first issue she mentioned was me getting up her about talking to Sleeze all the time when she said that I talk to B all the time. She said I probably do lots of stuff with B out of work, which was true but I didn't say anything. She then said that whenever there is a group of people I always put her last. This was really depressing to hear since I don't mean to, which means that i'm doing it subconciously? B was going to come to Luna park with us but decided not to after realising she has no money. On another side note, A and C are having some issues, even though they were best of friends. Also, there is some tension between A and B which has carried over from work to outside work. A was like "it's probably better that C doesn't come, because me and C would leave cos we have some tension then you two could just makeout on the rollercoaster". She was like "i bet you'd prefer to do something with B than with me" and i was like "well did is B comming on a road trip with me?".

The rest of the conversation was just the usual talking about random funny stuff, and her reminding me of the funny things I did on shift that day. Eventually I managed to leave the conversation. I asked what time she wanted to be picked up she was like "your choice" so I said 10am, all good. I asked if we were getting married lol she said "up to you" so I said allright; The time was set, off the phone all good thats where I'm at now.

+/- In all of our conversations she never talks about past relationships or her problems. However she does talk about her friends a bit, both girl and guy. She also tells me how much she hates her ex-b/f (well she just says his name, she doesn't know that I know that she went out with him) anyway she says that she has to "fill me in" about him. Is that a bad sign...

+ Our conversatins also never involve any crap like "how was your day" or anything like that. They are just random useless conversations about crap lol.

- She has refered to me as her "friend" a couple of times. I guess thats not really a problem since we aren't more than friends at this point.

-/+ At work last night I told her I was going home early and she was like "your leaving me!" then she was like "fine then i just won't come on your road trip, I'm going to the movies with mitch and his gay boyfriend" in a joking manner. I just told her it was her loss. She asked what I would do if she didn't come, but I was kidna drawn back to work and didn't have a chance to answer that.

+ She seems to remember a lot of details about me, like she even rememberes the first time we met and basically anything which I tell her about me. Like last night she remembered that my dad remarried without even telling me. I couldn't even remember telling her that ****.

+ Whenever we even look at each other, we always both smile and sometimes she will laugh. She will ask for something at work and smile and laugh expecting me to make fun of her. There is always that tension which is great. On sunday night at B's place, we were holding eye contact for a while then she was like "what?!?" laughing and I just said "nothing". And kept smiling.

Well I guess I have to ask a questions don't I. Does it look like I am in the friend zone. The thing which got me worried was the initial movie night where she had a boyfriend.

Also, what is A trying to say when she says that I put everyone else ahead of her. I didn't really know what to say when she brought that up since I don't know that was what it looked like from the outside.

Thanks heaps in advance, If you need me to go into any more detail just ask :D
 

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Start up some kino with her. It's the easiest way to get closer with her, and also find out whether or not if she is interested you by her reaction to it.
 

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Yeah one place we are going is a park about an hour away, in a place we both grew up in. She loved the idea of going on the swings lol. Childish, but fun :)

Kino in the past has been limited due to work, but last nights shift she kino'd me a couple of times, one time she need to get past me while I was walking kinda slow so she touched my back while pushing me forward. Another one I was standing on a corner and she went around and held my arm above my elbow.

Just simple things but they do happen.

Either way, I'll get the kino going tomorrow. Whatever happens, I just want to have a good time. If we both have a great time what could possibly go wrong.

The only thing i'm worried about is the fact that we work together and that I make a move and get rejected, could make work a little messed up. But it isn't an important job at all, but that isn't the point though.
 

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My advise: BE A MAN

Don't let her control your interactions. Don't tolerate her bratty behavior.

And by the way, never stick your dink in company ink.

But taking that element away, here is where you could have done better. If she ever asks you why you haven't called, tell her you have been busy doing things, besides, I was waiting you to call me and ask me out.

At the party, she was testing you to see if you were man enough to talk with her. A good way to pry her away is to find something you need her for, interrupt the guy and tell her she needs to come over now. Lead and take control. How many times have you talked to a girl and a guy or girl tells her to come over and she stops mid sentence and leaves?

If she is complaining about you talking to girl B, tell her why is that important, are you jealous? or say you know, I have more than ONE friend.

NEVER allow yourself to take her point of view on an issue trivial like talking with other people. It sounds like you were having fun hanging out with your other friends. Keep your ground and let her know it is OK to talk to more than ONE friend too.

If she says I not talking to you at work, I would just tell her you know, we do need to work as a team.

If you are going to joke about marriage, do it ONCE in a blue moon.

Course of action: Keep your distance. Find other girls, date them. Talk to her in a week or two and tell her you have been seeing a couple girls and don't tell her anything more even if she is trying to pry it out of you. Once you do this, it will do one of two things for you. She will fold up completely, which is a test to tell you she isn't mature enough to even handle a relationship or she will vye to get your attention and compete (which promotes urgency within herself). Make her prove she is worthy by no manipulative behavior and not acting like a brat.
 

unnamed04

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Originally posted by stalluproar
Course of action: Keep your distance. Find other girls, date them. Talk to her in a week or two and tell her you have been seeing a couple girls and don't tell her anything more even if she is trying to pry it out of you. Once you do this, it will do one of two things for you. She will fold up completely, which is a test to tell you she isn't mature enough to even handle a relationship or she will vye to get your attention and compete (which promotes urgency within herself). Make her prove she is worthy by no manipulative behavior and not acting like a brat.
Well what about our "date", so to speak, tomorrow, and I will also be seeing her the next day all day too :/

I really don't think I could cancel both... Or either for that matter...
 
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