Am I correct in my assumption?

[DJx420]

Okay fellas,

A while back I decided to leave SS and concentrate on the Annihilation Method / The Mystery Method. I've been over The MM about twice now and I like it a lot. The Annihilation Method is BY FAR the best PUA material out there in my opinion. I've been watching these DVD's for the past few weeks and have started to really understand most of what is being taught.

Now with that being said I see some MAJOR differences in the game that is required form where I am in my life to that of both of these methods.

I am a junior in COLLEGE. When people at my school go out they don't just say "HEY LETS GO TO THE BAR" but instead they have a whole "pre-game" which pretty much is a plan to get as wasted as possible before going to the bar.

Going with that, I therefore see LITTLE TO NO reason for openers. Instead of going up to a set and opening with an opinion opener I feel that just going up and saying "Hey, whatsup" will get the job done. Then the next step is to DHV. Once again I see little to NO reason to do this either. All that I feel is necessary while gaming drunk women is pretty much to neg them and throw some C+F there way. My reasoning for this is that they are drunk already, probably not going to remember you regardless, and as far as I know if girls are drunk and your entertaining / a semi-decent looking dude your pretty much IN.

Lets take an example: Say I open a 2 set with an opinion opener. I then do a DHV (best friends test for those of you who know it) with a time contraint. At that point its pretty much time to leave (on a high note) and say something along the lines of "I gotta get back to my friends come find me later on." Within 5 minutes those girls are going to be either a) dancing b) talking to someone else or c) drinking more -- In all cases they'll probably forget about you. Now there is a chance that you will bump into them later on and then they'll remember you however I'm sure that chance is pretty slim.

So my question to you guys is a) Is my opinion wrong and should I still be sarging with all these steps in mind? b) If so, what works for you guys who have sarged in similar situations and c) If my opinion is correct then what steps do you guys take in order to acheive success (like what C+F routines work well as well as what neg routines work well and so on and so forth)

Thanks a lot guys.

 

[darkstarrr]

I'm not overly versed in all the lingo but I do know this: college girls can be flaky AND environment can play a huge role in your game plan.

If you are at a bar for example and everyone is drunk if you tell a girl to come find you later she could be making out with another dude in the blink of an eye (or by the time you turn around).

So, in some situations maybe instead of walking away and waiting for her to come find you or whatever - keep things moving along. Ask her onto the dancefloor, etc.

Basically my point is that if you try to use any given method in any given environment, rat random, you are not going to get consistent results. Feel your environment out and make judgement calls about what you feel will work best for the situation.

Good luck.

 

[NewAndImproved]

Conquer Your Campus might interest you. It's an e-book written by a few guys just out of college. Their mindset is that most PUA/game theory doesn't apply to college. It's overkill. Instead, they focus on creating a social network, being a leader on campus and meeting plates through your active social life. They also believe in DIRECT game that isn't really game at all but just being outgoing and fun. If you're the life of the party (a party that continues even during the week and in all settings), you'll have success...PERIOD.

 

[horaholic]

I think you should switch over to the RSD method. You are already catching on to the fact that its all about the "state" your in, and the opener itself means nothing. If you have a great frame, and have 'the state,' you can literally walk up to a chick and say "blah,blah,blah" as your opener.

The thing about RSD, is that they were masters at MM, AM, kind of stuff, and refined it into a mental awareness. When you're in the 'state,' you dont need openers, cuz you're being that super fun guy who can get away with anything he wants. You dont need to DHV, cuz you already ARE, just with your presence alone. Its all about becoming a natural, with out having a 'game plan,' and lines, and routines, and what not, and letting your 'higher self' come out. Dont get me wrong, you can still do MM's stuuf, but you dont let it rule you. You rule YOURSELF.

Im watching the Bueprint Decoded, right now. Thumbs up. Go to RSDNation.com, and read some of the success stories, and field reports. It truly is beyond MM.