Am I being too overreactive here?

[Trump]

Actually I've found trying to pigeon hole a day looks far worse most times because if she says No, then what?

Depends on the excuse. If she is working or of the like, ok she can pick another day but she is slightly risking it. If she is having dinner with her sister and her fiancé. She's out.

Then you are offering another day or saying "OK, well let me know when you are free", which has low odds to be honest with a chick that you haven't met yet.
If she gives you a list of available days, you simply pick one, or if she only gives ones that don't work, you tell her that isn't going to work for me and let her know a day and time you have available. If neither work then you simply say "Ok, well I guess this week is out I'll get back to you next week and we can figure something out."

Bro I know you have likely slept with a lot of good looking girls and have way more experience but this doesn't work for me. You are the boss, not her.

With a girl I always pretend I'm the boss she is my manager and she is coming for a 1st interview. I pick the day of the inteview, she has to make it. To say 'when are free over the next week to come for an interview?' it's too weak for me, sounds like she is the boss. Granted you are just trying to get her out and connect but I don't like to leave the whole week open for her to pick a day and time at her convenience.

'Let me know when you are free' = 'I got nothing going on and my schedule depends on yours.'

My goal would be to find a time when she is free, not blindly pick a random day and time hoping that she has nothing going on, or isn't working, in class, etc. Makes little sense.

Understand bro. For me she has to work on my schedule, not me on hers.

Either way, the bottom line is, if she wants to meet you it really doesn't matter much.

True.

 

[marmel75]

Depends on the excuse. If she is working or of the like, ok she can pick another day but she is slightly risking it. If she is having dinner with her sister and her fiancé. She's out.



Bro I know you have likely slept with a lot of good looking girls and have way more experience but this doesn't work for me. You are the boss, not her.

With a girl I always pretend I'm the boss she is my manager and she is coming for a 1st interview. I pick the day of the inteview, she has to make it. To say 'when are free over the next week to come for an interview?' it's too weak for me, sounds like she is the boss. Granted you are just trying to get her out and connect but I don't like to leave the whole week open for her to pick a day and time at her convenience.

'Let me know when you are free' = 'I got nothing going on and my schedule depends on yours.'



Understand bro. For me she has to work on my schedule, not me on hers.



True.

I never agree to a day that doesn't work for me. She'll give me times when she is free and I'll choose one that fits my schedule. Plenty of times I've told women I'm not available during the times they've given me. My goal is to find something that works for both of us, kind of like the path of least resistance to get the woman out with you.

 

[Tenacity]

Have you ever tried gaming within your own social circle?

Yes

Especially to the extent of '10 approaches a week'?

Yes

He won't have a social circle left.

A social circle includes but is not limited to the following:

- College campuses
- The Gym
- Churches he attends
- Business Clubs/Conventions he attends
- Libraries he hangs out at
- Night Clubs he frequents
- Bars/Pubs he frequents
- Etc.

A social circle also includes family/friends/associates you are "closer to" who all meet within a closed off area somewhere. But that's not the only extent of a social circle, that would be more of your closed off social circle, I'm referring to the extended social circle.

He has to go out and meet, talk to, MANY women right now. AT least 10 a week. Go through the process of getting shut down, rejected, embarrassed, accepted, fvcked, ONS, etc. Only then will he develop the true confidence and comfort of being around/dealing with women.

Also any type of public speaking class or activity he can join will be good as well.

 

[Tenacity]

Cold approach isn't social-circle game. It's the fvcking opposite.

Dear oh dear

If you are cold-approaching, you aren't doing social-circle game.

You define a social circle as only the people you know and the immediate people that THEY know.

To me that's not the extent of a social circle. For example, I used to be a part of a large Church which had 5,000 members. I had an immediate closed off social group of people I knew in the church, but I didn't know everybody within the church. But being involved in the church now connects me socially to the other people within the church that I can GO OUT and meet, introduce myself to, hit on for dates, etc.

It's not "cold approaching", more like "warm approaching".

 

[Tenacity]

Cold approaches are not social circle..

No man, not cold approaching........warm approaching. That's what I recommended to him, warm approaching.

Cold Approach = You are at a random grocery store, see a chick by the apples, and go spit game.

Warm Approach = You are a part of a large Church, she's a part of a large Church, but you haven't introduced yourself yet. So after church you introduce yourself, talk about the sermon, and work in "game" to hit on her. You guys are a part of the same "social network" of the Church, even though you don't know her yet. But every member of that Chuch is an extension of your "social network".

To give you a business world analogy, warm approaching is like networking. You went to a big school like U of M, you are on LinkedIn and you see some major VP who also went to U Of M. You hit him up for small talk, talk about the college, and then work in trying to secure a job or create a job within his organization for yourself. That's a warm approach due to you and the VP's connection to the school, not a cold approach which you two had NO prior connection to any social network/club/circle.