am i becoming a sociopath?

[SELF-MASTERY]

I've had more success with women this year than ever. I'm getting away with being ME. I'm moody, angry, damn hostile and women are putting up with this.

I see them as something to conquer, own, and that which can be disposed of.
Being an a-hole is paying of, I dont care about the feelings, emotions, or thoughts of anyone at this point. It feels liberating, but in a dirt provocative way, I feel a lil slimmy like a used salesmen.

I'm starting to believe that I'll never be a worthy LTR canidate. I just get bored with women (ppl) real fast. My sibbling has the same boredom with ppl/ relationships as I do. Is this genetic or what, is it healthy?

 

[-HPNOTIQ-]

Kind of in the same position myself.

Was doing the DJ thing the past 2-3 years and the funny thing about this site...this stuff actually works...but it becomes so calculated that you become cold to the whole 'experience' of women, dating, and social relationships. You become analytical...and women/love isn't something to be analytical over.

My advice, step away from the game for a bit. Concentrate on those things that make YOU happy first. Too many men associate their success in life with the women they date. This obviously shouldn't be the case.

Bro...Personally, the past couple months, I'm really questioning the worth of marriage. I think every fella in the back of his mind would like to find the perfect woman to settle down with...but, I don't think I'll ever get married because I'm too damn picky. This maybe the same position you are in.

You know what though...its entirely ok for life to be this way. Maybe in a couple years...that perfect woman will come around...til then, focus on yourself. Hit the gym, lift weights, read, travel...BREATH...

A man shouldn't worry about being alone...

 

[Wyldfire]

No one should worry or fear not being in a relationship. One of the most rewarding and fulfilling things in life is learning to be good company for yourself. If you find someone you want to share your life with, it's all good and you make room for them in your life...because you WANT to. But you should never "need" to be with someone or define who you are or how worthy or successful you are as a human being by who you are with or even just being with someone in general. Besides, when you stop trying to find that "ideal" person you are more likely to bump into someone you can really connect with because you aren't too busy looking to notice what appears right in front of you.

 

[TooColdUlrick]

Originally posted by SELF-MASTERY
I've had more success with women this year than ever. I'm getting away with being ME. I'm moody, angry, damn hostile and women are putting up with this.

I see them as something to conquer, own, and that which can be disposed of.
Being an a-hole is paying of, I dont care about the feelings, emotions, or thoughts of anyone at this point. It feels liberating, but in a dirt provocative way, I feel a lil slimmy like a used salesmen.

I'm starting to believe that I'll never be a worthy LTR canidate. I just get bored with women (ppl) real fast. My sibbling has the same boredom with ppl/ relationships as I do. Is this genetic or what, is it healthy?

is it healthy? i think you answered your own question, as above.

being edgy is one thing, but being an a-hole is another. you will lose in the end (or sooner). you might have a lot of empty seats at your funeral, when that time comes.

 

[Ice Cold]

Re: Re: am i becoming a sociopath?

Originally posted by TooColdUlrick
you might have a lot of empty seats at your funeral, when that time comes.

i'd trade my crowded funeral for achieving the goals in my life

wouldn't u?

 

[gmm567]

sociopathy is genetic

Is your father or mother sociopaths? You might have inherited the personality disorder. There is no cure ( except lifting them off their feet with a rope).


here's the careers that sociopaths gravitate towards:

Professional Sales
Career Military and Police work
Professional Politicians
Habitual Criminals

The first 3 are considered "sub-clinical" sociopaths. Are your parents in these careers?

Here are some of the behavioral characteristics from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders:

1) impulsivity
2) cruelty to animals ( torturing, killing , beating)
3) habitual lieing and cheating/disregard for the rights and feelings of others.

there are others characteristics: see the Diagnostic and Statistical manual of mental disroders #3 edition( #4 is more personality characteristic oriented rather than behaviorial oriented).

Sociopaths do very well with women.

Hope this helps.


Geoff

 

[usedtolurk]

Re: sociopathy is genetic

Originally posted by gmm567
Is your father or mother sociopaths? You might have inherited the personality disorder. There is no cure ( except lifting them off their feet with a rope).


here's the careers that sociopaths gravitate towards:

Professional Sales
Career Military and Police work
Professional Politicians
Habitual Criminals

The first 3 are considered "sub-clinical" sociopaths. Are your parents in these careers?

Here are some of the behavioral characteristics from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders:

1) impulsivity
2) cruelty to animals ( torturing, killing , beating)
3) habitual lieing and cheating/disregard for the rights and feelings of others.

there are others characteristics: see the Diagnostic and Statistical manual of mental disroders #3 edition( #4 is more personality characteristic oriented rather than behaviorial oriented).

Sociopaths do very well with women.

Hope this helps.


Geoff

Quite informative. Where did you get this from?

 

[TooColdUlrick]

Re: Re: Re: am i becoming a sociopath?

Originally posted by Ice Cold
i'd trade my crowded funeral for achieving the goals in my life

wouldn't u?

at what expense? and what are those goals?

"moody"
"angry"
"damn hostile"
"a-hole"
"slimy [car] salesman"

were the adjectives used in the original post.

 

[SELF-MASTERY]

family- dad is anitsocial

mom-friendly normal, the most outgoing

sister- crazy, uses ppl, lies, cheats

me- I have my moods, but feel guilt afterwards

all of us- have bad tempers

I have been drawn to law enforcement, sales, and a career as a politician. Im into mind games and game play (strategy). I have the urge to seek adventure: skydiving, racing cars, getting in the car and just leaving- kerouac-like experience.

I have mixed emotions, being bad brings good things.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by SELF-MASTERY
family- dad is anitsocial

mom-friendly normal, the most outgoing

sister- crazy, uses ppl, lies, cheats

me- I have my moods, but feel guilt afterwards

all of us- have bad tempers

I have been drawn to law enforcement, sales, and a career as a politician. Im into mind games and game play (strategy). I have the urge to seek adventure: skydiving, racing cars, getting in the car and just leaving- kerouac-like experience.

I have mixed emotions, being bad brings good things.

Sounds like a typical dysfunctional family to me...



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Which means you're perfectly normal. You probably shouldn't be concerned about being a sociopath unless you start getting sudden urges to torture, maim and kill small animals.

 

[gmm567]

people do not become sociopathic

They are born that way. You can see it is children as young as 3 years old. That's why it's so crazy for all these females to be screwing the "BAD BOYS." These females are literaly breeding more criminals, and I would suspect that we are going to be seeing far more sociopaths than we had in prior generations.

There is a range of severity of the disorder. In other words, some have so little concsience that they need to be intituitionalized or they kill people, others aren't really non-functionional in society though they sverely harm people emotionally and financially.

You didn't say much about your father except that he is antisocial.
Is he a habitual criminal, killed animals when he was younger, a juvenal delinguent? Then you've definitely got the genes in your family. Mom sounds fine, but sister who is crazy, uses people, lies and cheats could very well be socipathic. Most sociopaths are men (1-3 percent of cacuasion male population, 1-3 % for hispanic too, 6% of the black males, 18% of the american indian males). Only 1/2 percent of the female population are scociopaths, however,someone who lies, cheats ,uses people definitely has one of the behavioral characteristics of a sociopath. Con-artists often are sociopaths.

The fact that you feel guilt after mistreating someone would indicate that you have "some" conscience. But that only means that you're not in the realm of habitual criminality. However, as far as I know, seldom do socipaths think that there is anything wrong with their behavior. You might want to take the Minnesota Mulit-Phasic Personality Inventory. It is a written test (mulitple choice) that tests for personality disorders. If you really want to find out about yourself take the test-- a psychologists could give you it.

Contrary to what some criminal psychologists might tell you, there is no cure. There is only deterance; that is, consequences that make the sociopath bend to civilized norms of behavior--lawsuits, prison terms, capital punishment.


Bad tempers have nothing to with the sociopathic personality disorder. Thrill seeking is often associated with the criminal personality, though.

 

[Wyldfire]

Personally, I think there is an over-diagnosis of "sociopaths" in men. A lot of men diagnosed with this really have Borderline Personality Disorder without self-mutilation. BPD is more commonly diagnosed in women than men, but it's a lot more common in men than the "professionals" think. In fact, a man that beats women is very likely to have Borderline Personality Disorder. Stalkers are also very likely to have this.

 

[SELF-MASTERY]

no my dads not a criminal, the only weirdo is my sister

I think I just might be abusing my privilages with women and feel guilt, because of it.

The only documented behavioral disorder (I highly disagree with this label) in my family is ADD. My dad, me, and niece adhd.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by fuzzx
Sweet, I'm definetly a sociopath

I don't see anything wrong with this though and if you don't like it then you can kiss my arse.

Ya sooo what are the disadvantages of being a sociopath cause I don't seem to see any currently except that I can be very impulsive, mean and aggressive with people. I have lots of friends though and lots and lots of women.

Sociopaths are noted for torturing and killing small animals. Most serial killers are sociopaths. Do some research. If you honestly believe you are a bona-fide sociopath it's really not something you should be proud of. If you really are one you will most likely end up spending the bulk of your life in prison.

 

[SELF-MASTERY]

I've always wanted to base jump. At one time I was looking around town for suitable spots. I wish I had ur balls.

 

[LuckyStrike]

I consider myself to be somewhat sociopathic. I'm certainly not flaunting the fact, but I also consider myself to have morals and a understanding of what's right and wrong.

At least, that's what all my personalities think...

Oops, I guess I'm a little schizo too.

 

[Wyldfire]

Having antisocial personality traits and being an actual sociopath are two entirely different things.


The psychopath, also called a sociopath, is a personality that is characterized by cruelty, egotism, impulsive conduct and no remorse for his or her actions. Other traits include selfishness and an inability to give love and affection to others. True loyalty, warmth and compassion are foreign to psychopaths and they usually do not respond to acts of kindness. They have a remarkable disregard for truth and often become pathological or compulsive liars. Antisocial personalities usually do not perceive their behavior as dysfunctional because they see themselves as normal and often feel persecuted by society. They do not anticipate personal consequences and, even under high-pressure conditions, they remain cool and calm in their demeanor. They have been called moral idiots and their conduct is usually motivated by an excessive physiological need for thrills and excitement. O.J. Simpson has been described as a sociopathic personality. So has Ted Bundy, Charles Manson and Captain Jeffrey McDonald, the Green Beret doctor who murdered his family in 1970. Studies indicate that 3% of the male population may have an antisocial personality (Encarta ’99). Psychopaths frequently violate the rights of others and as such, they usually come into contact with the police. They will continue their criminal careers throughout their lives, unlike other criminals who usually burn out as they get older. Ultimately, psychopaths frequently wind up in jail or prison. It has been estimated that as much as 30% of the prison population can be classified as sociopathic.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/criminal_mind/psychology/crime_motivation/9.html?sect=19

 

[Alpine]

We just love labels and pigeonholes don't we.

I love the 'your probably a sociopath and there's no cure'

No chance he's just going through a bit of a phase where he's pushing the limits, starting to feel a degree of remorse and thinking about consequences then?

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Alpine
We just love labels and pigeonholes don't we.

I love the 'your probably a sociopath and there's no cure'

No chance he's just going through a bit of a phase where he's pushing the limits, starting to feel a degree of remorse and thinking about consequences then?

He's not a sociopath...if he were he wouldn't have posted being concerned that he might be one. Sociopaths aren't concerned about how others perceive them or how appropriate or healthy their behavior and thought processes are. In fact, he probably just exhibits a few anti-social and narcisistic traits...which is actually very common, pretty normal and nothing to get worked up over as long as he's in control of his behavior. He might be prone to problems if he takes a liking to drugs or alcohol, though...because people with those tendencies tend to be at higher risk of addiction to substances.

 

[decades]

I would read books by Dale Carnegie and about Ben Franklin. This may be giving you some short term wins, but in the long run, it will be no way to win friends and influence people.

regards,

mike