Am I a dying breed?

Kailex

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Now before I get "U MAD BRO" responses, let me preface by saying this... I embrace technology. I love it when it can make our lives simpler but not to the point where we have to avoid basic human interaction by simply sticking our noses into our phones.

Years ago, I thought the evolution of the phone was a great thing. Now, I'm beginning to wonder.

As I posted in another thread, I was out with some people and one girl was on Facebook/Instagram posting a picture of their drinks. The girl next to her was on Facebook/Instagram liking the pictures. There was no interaction about it other than them mentioning being on it.

Problem is, this seems to be the norm. I used to be able to go to a basketball court and play a 5 on 5 without having someone stop play because they got a text message. Even on dates or further into a relationship, there are times that darn social media just pops up on their phone. People used to have to sit at a bar and talk to each other or watch what was on TV.

Now when I say that I don't want to put up with these kind of attitudes when it comes to women, I'm treated like a relic of ancient times. I've heard:

"Get with the program."
"These are how things work now."
"If you can't beat them, join them."

I don't get it, I honestly don't. Is this what we are doomed to be? Is this what the dating game has come down to now? Even online dating has been reduced to a mindless app where one liners are the norm and anyone you've met in real life immediately asks to add you on Facebook. I almost feel like a lot of my connections and interactions have been dumbed down. As I grow older, I grow wearier. When I'm 40, I'll want to go out with the 32 year olds. Problem is that right now they are 25 and they know nothing more than having their phones permanently attached to their writing hand.

I hate to accept this as the new normal. The only reason I'd ever have social media is to promote a business I might have... but never to just snoop on people or demand other's attentions. I might be preaching somewhat to the choir here...

But is it time to adapt or is it time to perish with the times? Am I just a distant reminder of a past when people didn't have to ask questions like, "How do I respond to this text?". All the time I am told by older men who have long dated and married or are out of the game how lucky they consider themselves because they never had to put up with this.

Do I just accept that this is how it will be from now on? Even women older than I am can't go an hour without looking at their phone. Want to give it a test run... go on a date and go to the bathroom, I guarantee when you walk back, she's on some sort of social media checking her phone or looking at her messages...

Sigh...
 

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lol its all about male over population.. and technology exasperates all social issues indeed .. females are waaay over stimulated and a;l; times but desperate men calling and teeing begging for sex
 

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It's an absolute rarity that the average girl goes - no, is CAPABLE of coping going - a week without getting a text, a phone call, or a like on fb, or some other form of solipsistic sustenance that's only nutritional value is feeding their narcissism or ego.
To be fair, we as people like validation, it motivates and gives us indications of our value, and reinforces our sense of worth. However, you must realize the extent that the typical decent looking female is rewarded consistently with likes and attention, and her phone is an extension of her self- the source, the mortar that keeps her foundation together.
These girls, when faced to see anything that is not evidence of their own over inflated hubris, will hamster the shiit out of it.
 

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If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Social media fosters narcissism. A study was done in the last few years noting that most young women's facebook profiles had enough clinical features to "diagnose" narcissism. You can google it.

I have a smartphone, and it most definitely is a useful tool. But I got rid of ALL social media except for an anonymous Twitter account that I use to troll feminists and read science/news articles. No friends.

I've been Facebook-free for almost a year now and I haven't missed it for a second. You really get to see how socially retarded we are becoming.

One good thing to do when you are out with friends is to have everyone lay their phones face-down on the table in a stack. The first person to check their phone pays the whole bill. If everyone is in, it's like....wow. We are actually talking and observing and aware of each other....not pecking away on our smartphones whilst sitting right next to OUR FRIENDS.
 

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I was just thinking tonight as I sat next to my gf on her couch, "what do I have to do to get you to put down that fvcking phone and pay attention to me instead?" She even brought it to bed with us. I give up.
 

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Zarky said:
Put on your big boy pants and deal with it.

Or not. Maybe you can make a blog b*tching about it.
Are you being serious, or just a dumb kunt?
The guy raises a valid issue of this day and age, and the best you can come up with is a smart arse response.
I guess if girls were able to take a pill in the future that would make them grow diks and were able to fuk you in the arse you'd be for it and tell everyone to just "deal with it"?
 

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Colossus said:
One good thing to do when you are out with friends is to have everyone lay their phones face-down on the table in a stack. The first person to check their phone pays the whole bill.
I may be the only person here who thinks this way, but people checking their phones have never bothered me. Not sure why. I've read so many complaints here from guys about it.
 

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Here's my thing though... I'm not bothered by people checking their phones.

For one, I have family members I communicate mostly through text because their lives are too busy and schedules are too different from mine, so it's easier and not done with a sense of urgency.

It's mostly about people sitting out with other people and just ON their phones. Four or five people out and they are just commenting on the status' of people that aren't there.

Dates where you go out and the woman can't go an entire hour without checking her phone without seeing her left eye twitch.

Maybe it's because of the way I was raised, in that my father wouldn't allow any handheld devices at the dinner table or I started dating in an era when caller ID was relatively new and when you went out, the attention was focused solely on the people present and not on the people not there.

I get that the social media is a self-gratifying world in which you get a rush from any message/update received... but is this what it has devolved into? And it's not just women, although the majority is comprised by them, it's also men.

It scares me that there is a "fall in line" attitude about this and anyone who isn't an active participant is seen as socially awkward.
 

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zekko said:
I may be the only person here who thinks this way, but people checking their phones have never bothered me. Not sure why. I've read so many complaints here from guys about it.
Because when you are on a date with a girl and she's checking her phone, there's a pretty good chance she's checking to see what other guy she can be with besides you.

It's signals. Women are not overt. Her checking her phone can often be a signal she is not that interested in you, and vice versa.
 

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In total agreement with Kailex. Look up the atomization of societies, that's what is happening in the Western world as we speak. If you go through history and study great civilizations that fell into ruin, you'll notice that they all were swallowed up in narcissism and hedonism before the hammer fell.

I made this point in another thread recently:

Yeah this. This perpetual IV drip of attention whoring and ego validation is going to have serious repercussions. Relationships will be impossible to maintain, let alone marriages. When there's no families, there's no civilization. Hypergamy unleashed and uncontained, flowing like water in every direction.

Everybody wants to join the party but at what cost? It is all fun and games until the chickens come home to roost.
 

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Sh!t you all not, the timing of this thread has been perfect for me.

Yesterday was the 2-year anniversiary of me and the GF. I told her happy anniversiary and kissed her bye before going to work. I came home last night and she said "Sense I didn't do much for you for Father's Day, let me cook for our anniversiary. " I said OK great. She cooked us a great dinner, and she actually put her phone down long enough to sit and eat it with me.

Later we went to bed and I said "all in all, this was a pretty good anniversary". She started in on how i didn't post "Happy anniversary" to her FB wall. SHe posted it to mine and I responded, and I thought that was adequite. She started getting pissed about me not posting it to hers. It was 10pm and I said "oh yeah sorry", and still thought maybe I would still do it. But she didn't let up. SO I said "F" this and went and slept in my daughter's room. She followed me in there and still wanted to continue to fight, and got up in my face. I told her to get the F out of my face or I was calling the cops on her. Knowing darn good and well I wouldnt do that because the cops where I live always side with the woman, so I'd be putting myself in jail if I called them on her, even if she had hit me (which she didn't).

Today I deactived my FB when I got to work. She has been calling and texting wondering why I "deleted her". I texted her 16yo son and asked him to ask his mother to calm her a$$ down about FB. I will not be responding to her the rest of today.

All of this over not posting to her FB wall, and again, she is 41.

Arg!!!!:cuss:
 

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zekko said:
I may be the only person here who thinks this way, but people checking their phones have never bothered me. Not sure why. I've read so many complaints here from guys about it.

I belive its more the number of times people do it, in a date if a woman look at her phone more then 2 times during a hour, or even worse, amke you wait for her answer any msg she get or when you are talking she keep her phone in her face, I belive its time for you to drop her there and leave, I don't have any kind of good things from girls like this.

do I have facebook? yes, but mostly I use to get in touch with old college friends and schoolmates, and even so sometimes I get strange stupid things I jsut take the chance to do some shots to piss then off and wonder why I didn't block then.

it also makes you wonder if everytime you spend time with someone who never drops her phone makes you wait to answer msg and take like 1 or 2 hours to answers yours you can bet you are not in her list and you are losing time, so guys take it like a HUGE red flag and drop her, don't bother even trying again with her your time is more valuable.

@logicallefty

well I never post things on facebook if I saw the person that day, only do it if I didn't see the person IN person, but then I wonder also about your GF, nothing on father day? (if you do anything to her on mother's well.....) maybe its time to find a younger woman? :)
 

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Alvafe said:
@logicallefty

well I never post things on facebook if I saw the person that day, only do it if I didn't see the person IN person, but then I wonder also about your GF, nothing on father day? (if you do anything to her on mother's well.....) maybe its time to find a younger woman? :)
I got her a gift card, a card, and took her to her favorite restaurant on Mother's Day. On Father's Day she got me a couple T-shirts, but that was the extent of it. She told me she would grill me a steak but I had to go buy the steak because she didn't have enough money. And she doesn't do well with the grill so I'd a been cooking it myself anyway. I just said "nah, don't worry about it" because I didn't feel like going to the store, buying my own Father's Day dinner, or babysitting her at the grill. Maybe that was selfish on my part ? I wanted to relax darn it...

Are younger women really any different? Do they ever change? She had been good for a while but when she pulls crap like last night its hard for me to stop thinking about dumping her.. Today it's all I can think about.. We are supposed to go out of town this weekend, and I don't even want to go anymore.
 

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You do have some control....The other night I was on a date with my best friend, his wife, my 25 yo son, and his gf. We were all talking and interacting and made sure that we would not get interrupted by our cell phone. The table next to us had a couple with their teenage kids.....EVERYBODY was texting and nobody was interacting with each other....sad.
I am glad I am older. Though technology has certain advantages, it does take away from that human interaction. You can see it on this site....nobody wants to pick up the phone and talk to a woman to see what is going on....everyone wants to either text....or not text which is a passive aggressive move. Pick up the phone....talk to the person....it may save your relationship. Abe....Oh, I forgot, there is no phone to " pick up "....
 

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Completely agree with you its getting to a point its beyond ridiculous.

For all i care , i don't even have Facebook.
 

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Like it or not, stuff like this is here, and it's not going away.

However, this time is NEVER different. There's ALWAYS changes. Those who adapt and use the changes to their benefit usually thrive. Those who don't embrace changes, and always wish things were the way they used to be don't usually do so well.

Just ask yourself, what is it you REALLY want?

How can you use the current level of technology to get it?

Here's a challenge for y'all:

Approach, close, meet, date, bang, ALL through text. No verbal communication.

Take your game to the next level. Old school is to have tons of numbers in your phone book.

New school is to have tons of girls within ten miles (at various venues) that you are currently texting and are potential bangs for that evening.

All if really takes is a few small adjustments and expectations.

If you're with a girl that can't put her phone down, just text with her while you're sitting next to her. Use creatively written texts to make her jayjay wet. Make her WANT to speak to you.

Do this long enough, and you'll collect, create a whole LIBRARY of pre-written texts to use (with slight adjustment) in any situation, making you stand out above all the other chumps who are texting "Hey, wassup?"

Men (at least some) have been banging women through all KINDS of changes, since the dawn of time, and will continue to do so FAR into the future.
 

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Zarky said:
Put on your big boy pants and deal with it.
Put on your big jew kippa and ask your rabbi why menstrual blood is horribly unclean but sucking blood from the freshly mutilated d*cks of babies is kosher. Hopefully his convoluted talmudic explanation will be long enough to keep you away from this board for a few weeks.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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