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Desdinova

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A woman who is deep into you will sacrifice just about everything to keep her man happy, and that means no kids and no marriage if that what it takes to keep your alpha azz by her side.
A lot of the guys on here will expect some broad they've been banging for a month or two to have this kind of a mindset. It just doesn't work that way with women. You have to put a siginificant amount of time into a LTR in order for her to agree to the idea that marriage is a pile of 5hit. Even then, she may end up regretting it but when she's in her 30s, it's better than nothing.

I think the brighter girls realize, with some sadness, that marriage is really a raw deal for men under the current situation.
Finding women who don't believe in marriage is a rarity. The girl I'm currently dating initially agreed that marriage is pointless, but then wanted to make sure that I wasn't completely bitter toward the idea of it.

It always depends on where their emotions are sitting at that particular moment in time.
 
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I'll be wildcard and say if you screen a woman correctly, you will not encounter relational issue GIVEN (IT'S IN BOLD) GIVEN, you are still who you were before the relationship happened. Many men feel comfortable and let it slip away; Squirels post of sh!t test that everyone fails comes to mind. That's why PHM's post is very much relevant.

We have already had sex. You've already given up your bargaining chip.

What more do you have to offer? Commitment? Loyalty?


I have seen what women are capable of. I can find a better companion in my dog. Why should men put themselves out there if a woman can forfeit her duties at a moments notice. You are emotionally invested in a relationship, that she can leave without disregard. Think about it. PHM's theories aren't as crazy as it seems.
 

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Desdinova said:
A lot of the guys on here will expect some broad they've been banging for a month or two to have this kind of a mindset. It just doesn't work that way with women. You have to put a siginificant amount of time into a LTR in order for her to agree to the idea that marriage is a pile of 5hit.
You make it sound like a job .

I stand by my statements. A woman's desire to keep you as her man, come hell or high water, is not something that can be negotiated mate, whether it be one week, one month, six months or six years. If she will leave you because you won't marry her and /or inseminate her ,then she was never really that deep into you brother. Simple as that. If she breaks up with you over your no kids / no marriage mantra, then what does it tell you of what she thought of you? Hmmm?

I want to add here: This is MODERN women I am referring to.
In the 50's and 60's it WOULD be oddball not to be getting married, having kids, white picket fence blah blah blah. But then , women were different back then eh mate. The laws were different. The economy was different. As I said in an earlier post in this thread, things have changed, and so have women -- for the worse.
 

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A woman's desire to keep you as her man, come hell or high water, is not something that can be negotiated mate, whether it be one week, one month, six months or six years.
I agree that it isn't. However, the women I've had that really put in the effort to keep me around regardless of the marriage issue are desperate and bat-5hit crazy. I've had women resort to stalking, blackmail, and whatever else they can come up with to keep me around. I'd rather lead her on a bit than deal with a committed psycho.
 

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Desdinova said:
I agree that it isn't. However, the women I've had that really put in the effort to keep me around regardless of the marriage issue are desperate and bat-5hit crazy. I've had women resort to stalking, blackmail, and whatever else they can come up with to keep me around. I'd rather lead her on a bit than deal with a committed psycho.

Yep, some of 'em are nutz.
 

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Desdinova said:
I agree that it isn't. However, the women I've had that really put in the effort to keep me around regardless of the marriage issue are desperate and bat-5hit crazy. I've had women resort to stalking, blackmail, and whatever else they can come up with to keep me around. I'd rather lead her on a bit than deal with a committed psycho.
Are you prematurely putting these women as relationship material?
How are you meeting these women?
Did you not see their agenda before you became exclusive with them?

Being 25, I will say I am not in a position to ask an older man these questions, but they are very relevant regardless of age.

If the majority of the answers are YES, then you need to find a better way of screening.

I understand that you came form a series of LTR's that ended badly, and that is what you are always going after. Why not try something different? Why not have a string of STR's and see how you feel about it? I can almost guarantee that gradually, you begin to feel that relationships aren't all its made out to be. Why pursue an LTR if at the end of the day, you KNOW that it will not work out? Try something else for a change.
 

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Are you prematurely putting these women as relationship material?
How are you meeting these women?
Did you not see their agenda before you became exclusive with them?
I meet women wherever. I approach some, some approach me. How in the world does this make me at risk for being predisposed to having bad women in my life. North American woman are generally low quality already.

I honestly do NOT believe that most women have agendas. They have emotions. Some of them have psychological disorders that causes their emotions to fluctuate faster and more intense than others.

I understand that you came form a series of LTR's that ended badly
I've had a total of 4 LTRs in my lifetime. I ended two of them. Hardly a series.

Why not try something different? Why not have a string of STR's and see how you feel about it?
STRs are the norm for me. I'm not a fan of hitting the brick wall at the end of them.

Why pursue an LTR if at the end of the day, you KNOW that it will not work out?
I don't pursue a LTR if I know it's hopeless, and I have no problem with terminating a relationship with a woman if I believe it's not going to work.

If you honestly enjoy STRs, then by all means feel free to pursue them yourself. I'm looking at ways to improve my game with keeping women around for longer periods of time, and I believe putting out my view of the marriage issue could be a flaw in it.
 

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Finding women who don't believe in marriage is a rarity. The girl I'm currently dating initially agreed that marriage is pointless, but then wanted to make sure that I wasn't completely bitter toward the idea of it.
Finding a girl who "doesn't believe in marriage" is not common, plus it's not clear what she means by the word "believe in" ...

so she reluctantly agreed that marriage is pointless ... but then she wanted to make sure you weren't bitter towards the idea of it.

Sounds like she's too afraid to scare you off, but is very clearly interested in marriage in the long term.

If you are talking to her, like you are talking to us, feel confident that this problem will come back at you at some point.

I'd just ease the pressure by talking about babies or something :)
 

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In a few weeks from now, PlayHerMan will declare, in a colorful post, intercourse with a woman is ultimately a feminine and cowardly act because you are, at the end of the day, he'll argue, submitting your penis into the vagina on the woman's terms. Since, at any given point during the process of copulation, she bears the legal right to not consent to further action, forbidding your alpha semen from being ejaculated, he'll add, consolidating his theories with the field of evolutionary psychology; we are at the mercy of those evil cvnts in a very vulnerable state with erect penises that could (God Forbid) bring our demise as mankind in the next decade or so ... This is unacceptable, gents. We must abstain yesterday, no exceptions!

Relationship are already unacceptable, as some of you may have got the memo, and you have to sarge the streets night and day; like rabid dogs when the times call for it, so be it, and rape,if required, under destitute circumstances, to avoid the poor man's diease: LTR with a woman, and to maintain your alpha-tude.

Understood, faggots ?
:crackup: :crackup: :crackup: I love it!

How many hours did that take you?

Don't hurt yourself B-boy.
 

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Boilermaker said:
In a few weeks from now, PlayHerMan will declare, in a colorful post, intercourse with a woman is ultimately a feminine and cowardly act because you are, at the end of the day, he'll argue, submitting your penis into the vagina on the woman's terms. Since, at any given point during the process of copulation, she bears the legal right to not consent to further action, forbidding your alpha semen from being ejaculated, he'll add, consolidating his theories with the field of evolutionary psychology; we are at the mercy of those evil cvnts in a very vulnerable state with erect penises that could (God Forbid) bring our demise as mankind in the next decade or so ... This is unacceptable, gents. We must abstain yesterday, no exceptions!

Relationship are already unacceptable, as some of you may have got the memo, and you have to sarge the streets night and day; like rabid dogs when the times call for it, so be it, and rape,if required, under destitute circumstances, to avoid the poor man's diease: LTR with a woman, and to maintain your alpha-tude.

Understood, faggots ?

My eyes!! lol
 

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Desdinova said:
Finding women who don't believe in marriage is a rarity.
Just to clarify, I wasn't talking about women who didn't beieve in marriage (There are women who don't believe in marriage, but they're not the relationship kind!). I was saying that if the woman was bright, she could reluctantly understand a man's point of view about it. Especially if the guy has been divorced and burned by it before.
 

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It's normal for a woman to want family and kids. It's a woman's biological imperative. The ones who do not want that are, almost without exception, f*cked up one way or another. So it's a tough choice...do you resign yourself to dating low quality trash or sell yourself into slavery?
 
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