Always Fvck When Given the First Opportunity

[Young Juan]

I've been noticing in a lot of threads where guys are being given the green light to fvck, and not fvcking. When a girl is giving you a blatant opportunity to fvck, kiss, make a move of any kind, from my experience and observation, it's one of the few ABSOLUTE KISS OF DEATH, when you don't do anything and she KNOWS you want to do something. It's slightly different if she's trying to get you and you're not really into her e.g. a fat chick or but-her face that's somehow isolated you, but EVERY other time, it's the KISS OF DEATH.

I don't know the reasons behind it, but I do know zero men who have come back from this situation that I know. Once again, to clarify the specific situation I'm talking about, it's when you want to fvck, have been trying to fvck, get into an isolation situation where you're thinking, "I can make a move here, but should I? How should I?" Don't do that, just make the danm move already! It's 100% better to get rejected, she may still come back and give you a 2nd opportunity. If you don't make the move? You will NOT get a 2nd opportunity. I'm pretty sure it's AUTOMATIC friend zone banishment.

Thinking about this makes me want to write a miss list of the times this happened and I failed miserably, NEVER to get a 2nd opportunity:

Senior year in HS:
- Freshman Kelly - Had her shirt AND HER BRA off giving a back massage and didn't pull the trigger..."your such a nice guy and good friend for not making a move." A week later, found out my friend got amazing head from her after school
- Freshman Michelle - "Can I get a ride home from you after school? Oh yeah, I don't need to go straight home, we can hang out if you want." I ended up watching music videos. Got a second opportunity on prom night, dropped her off at home. GOD, I make myself sick.
College:
- Skinny Blonde Stephanie - I was INFATUATED with this girl for a year and a half. FINALLY, got her in my room, in my bedroom, after 1am when had BOTH been drinking. Nobody was home at my appt. We played on my computer and I let her take a phone call. If I could get in a time machine I would punch my younger self in the face as hard as I can! She went home without at least getting my tongue down her throat. FAIL!
- Chubby Blonde Ashley - We cyber sex IM'ed God knows how many times! When I got her alone, didn't make a move. Bleh. Got a second chance when I happened to run into her in Mexico sh!tfaced. This was the only legit time I didn't have a chance as I was black out drunk and she STILL came to my room to try to molest/rape me, which I would've gladly allowed if I was aware it wasn't a dream. Technically doesn't count, but missed opportunity nonetheless.
- Karen Page (would later become the porn star known as Mysti May!!! Look her the fvck up! She's a super slore!) - Was good friends with her older sister (story below about her). First night we met, drank with them both and ended up in Karen's bed. She showed me her fricking navel tattoo! and I didn't make a move. Just said that's cool and went to sleep...in a fvcking twin size bed! Holy sh!t, do you know what I could've done?!?! Exactly, EVERYTHING I wanted to! To think, I occasionally beat off to a porn star I could've fvkced! Fvck me!


Other side of the coin: Here are the times that I made the move
-Kuwait Hannah: Took her out dancing, brought her back to my place after the club, made a move, got a mini-make out, but then I think she remembered her ex and I were friends. She left, I didn't follow up.
- Somalian Z aka Model Fine Perfect 9, Bougie B!tch- Went out with her and her friends after work for Sushi and drinks. Was flirting the whole night, when we walked out after and gave her the customary hug by her car, sacked up and made a move, got a make out. She came over next day and made out more. Third day more make out + head and ***** eating. A month later, she was my girl and she surprised me in high heels and lingerie to let me fvck for the first time.
- Amanda - Drinks, sushi, back to my place. Made a move, got a make out. Went to her place and fvcked (not smart) raw dog the next night. Ended up being f-buddies for the following 3 years till she wanted a 'ship.
-Karen's older sister - Got some guy friend of her's to bring her to my place after 1am, took him to a party around the way and ditched his azz and brought her back to my place for "member's only shots" (college!) Made a move, got a make out, told her to text dude she was okay for the night and turn off her phone, fvcked!
- Karen, 2nd opportunity! - Got her to my place, made a move, got no love, struck out swinging! It's always better to strike out swinging than to strike out looking. Any baseball players can attest to this.

Long story short: Strike out swinging, you may a least get a piece of the ball and another pitch. You may get a hit or a home run on the next pitch. Aggression is rewarded in this game. Sure, you may pop-fly out, but at least you got a piece. Strike out looking, you're more likely to get pulled from the game and replaced.

 

[Crissco]

Yesssssssss!!! Thank you. Theres a reason I always go for the same SNLs. Half of the time the 2nd, 3rd...Lays just dont work out.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Strike when the iron is hot (when the vagina is wet.) Because after the iron sobers up, it won't be so hot any more.

 

[Crissco]

Strike when the iron is hot (when the vagina is wet.) Because after the iron sobers up, it won't be so hot any more.

Hit the nail on the head

 

[Young Juan]

Not sure why you're giving advice when you have more failed attempts than successful ones. Sounds like you're the one who needs advice bro. Here's some: stop crying.

I know you're a troll but I can't let the b!tchazzness slide. LOL. You really think all the attempts I listed here are all of the attempts in my lifetime? Or even in current times? Do the math my friend, I'm 28, I talked about a total of 5 attempts in HS and college. I graduated at 22. You actually prove my point, I'd rather have 20 failed ATTEMPTS.

And you never know when the ho in front of you is a future porn star.

 

[Young Juan]

A "future porn star"? I get it. You're looking to snag the next Brittany, only more sluttier with a highly public va jay jay. Well why didn't you just say so?

Dude, you're obviously either illiterate or lazy. Read my OP and then google Mysti May. After that, go fvck yourself.

 

[nismo-4]

Strike when the iron is hot (when the vagina is wet.) Because after the iron sobers up, it won't be so hot any more.

You must've read my sig quite often!

 

[Mike32ct]

Yeah I have some missed opportunities in my past.

What I can tell you for certain is that you'll be kicking yourself when you are older if you don't go for it.

 

[Young Gun]

Dude, you're obviously either illiterate or lazy. Read my OP and then google Mysti May. After that, go fvck yourself.

Screw that chotch, you're a legend! I've seen her stuff and she is for real. And you got her sister!?! Did she fvck like a pornstar too?

 

[dementia]

I was in tears reading that. Golden!

 

[Mike32ct]

This thread is worth a bump. Great points.

She's either DTF or AW-ing you. You won't know 100 percent for sure if you don't make a move.

Then go as far as you can. Even if you don't get a full close (ie she stops you short of intercourse), you could still get some decent play. If you don't try, you get nothing.

It's an important lesson.

 

[LiveFreeX]

Disagree, you should only fvck girls who are worth it. Please use some discretion or you could end up with.

Hot Kelly - took her Bra and panties off, pulled the trigger raw dog. Now have HPV and HEP C, FOR LIFE.


What the hell is wrong with you people, STDs are for life... and life ain't worth a quick roll in the hay. There is more to life than getting laid. How about instead you only pull the trigger on the one who wants to stick around to have children, raise a family, be loyal, cook and clean and you have deemed quality. SS and PUA isn't about getting laid and fvcking low quality hoes... PUA theory is about making yourself the prize and getting her to want you, thats all. If you can get to YES with any woman then numbers are meaningless and quality becomes an issue. I can't recall who said this but I read this a few years ago: ten (1's) don't equal one (10).


A man with standards is certainly hard to come by in this day and age.

 

[Zarky]

Nice post OP. I think every guy has missed opportunities that he kicks himself about for his entire life. I know I have several.

I missed out on a threesome with two chicks back in my mid-20s because I was a clueless idiot. These girls I knew pretty well were talking about wanting to hook up with a guy -- any guy -- that night and smiling at me and even at one point showed me an ad in a magazine where there was a guy kissing two girls and said "That looks like a good idea!" and I was just like "uh yeah, heh heh." After awhile they just shrugged and left. I don't even know. I just didn't pick up on it or something??? I don't understand to this day how I could have missed that. It was only later that week that I slapped myself in the forehead.

 

[fuzzball]

Disagree, you should only fvck girls who are worth it. Please use some discretion or you could end up with.

Hot Kelly - took her Bra and panties off, pulled the trigger raw dog. Now have HPV and HEP C, FOR LIFE.


What the hell is wrong with you people, STDs are for life... and life ain't worth a quick roll in the hay. There is more to life than getting laid. How about instead you only pull the trigger on the one who wants to stick around to have children, raise a family, be loyal, cook and clean and you have deemed quality. SS and PUA isn't about getting laid and fvcking low quality hoes... PUA theory is about making yourself the prize and getting her to want you, thats all. If you can get to YES with any woman then numbers are meaningless and quality becomes an issue. I can't recall who said this but I read this a few years ago: ten (1's) don't equal one (10).


A man with standards is certainly hard to come by in this day and age.

this really. i see this on this site a lot. going for the quick lay and move on. while i understand the point of this site and am very grateful to it. i cannot help but wonder if people do not stop and consider this damning fact. too many lays and you can very well get some serious life altering problems. this also turns women into the wh0res we so often condemn in every thread.

it seems like a weird double standard. we want these good women but then we also go around looking to bang every chick we see and expect good disease free women to actually exist. i cant help but think the math to get this to all add up fails.

 

[Zarky]

too many lays and you can very well get some serious life altering problems.

Just rubber up if that kind of thing scares you. Most guys here do.

this also turns women into the wh0res we so often condemn in every thread.

What do you mean "we," white man? Only beta shlumps "condemn" sl*tty chicks. I celebrate them.

it seems like a weird double standard. we want these good women

I ask again, who's this "we?"

but then we also go around looking to bang every chick we see and expect good disease free women to actually exist. i cant help but think the math to get this to all add up fails.

Sounds like you need to lighten up, that's what it sounds like. I'm sensing a lack of experience with you.

Relax, have a drink, throw on a condom, bang some chicks, quit worrying about "good" women or "wh0res" or whatnot. Yeesh, kids these days....

How about instead you only pull the trigger on the one who wants to stick around to have children, raise a family, be loyal, cook and clean and you have deemed quality.

Bahahaa and then praise jesus and only have sex for procreation right? If a guy doesn't want any of that sh*t then he's supposed to be celebate, eh?

 

[fuzzball]

most of these threads tend to condemn wh0res while celebrating them. there appears to be a weird double standard.

rubber doesnt protect against everything nor is it foolproof. and it sure as hell is less foolproof when it comes to STD protection. then there are the sexual acts involving the mouth in certain areas which a condom wont do a damn thing to protect against. my point is condoms are not foolproof and banging people repeatedly carries risks. risks that arent going to always show up overnight.

i think our good chick comment was most people at some point want to have a LTR. to do that a reasonably good girl must exist. the odds of a good girl existing drop drastically if they all morph into one night stand wh0res. im not saying save it all for marriage but there is a vast difference between a one night stand girl and LTR girl. the qualities of both are drastically different in every way. if the DJ bible is true then women are the ones that will kill for their man. if thats the case they will indeed morph into whatever the heck we as men desire. if more men want one night stands above all else the good LTR women that have actual value for anything besides sex will vanish.

if all men want are wh0res then all women will morph into said wh0res. and vice versa.

also i would think a true alpha, a true DJ would want his own family with a good woman at some point. if anything constant wh0re banging that never ends seems like a beta person that lacks the spine needed to be a father so he fvcks whoever he wants whenever he wants with no future plan or goal to work towards. he seems like a slave to all mighty c0ck.

 

[Zarky]

most of these threads tend to condemn wh0res while celebrating them. there appears to be a weird double standard.

Those posts are made by beta shmucks.

rubber doesnt protect against everything nor is it foolproof. and it sure as hell is less foolproof when it comes to STD protection.

Condoms protect against anything that's going to cause major damage. Yes, crabs aren't covered at all and they're only marginally effective against herpes, but everything else is covered. Plus the fact that men are much less likely to get an STD than women. If you as a man have unprotected sex with a woman who has full-blown AIDS, you have a 1 in 500 chance of getting it.

then there are the sexual acts involving the mouth in certain areas

Umm... "sexual acts involving the mouth?" You mean oral sex? Are you a teenager? You can tell us.

if all men want are wh0res then all women will morph into said wh0res. and vice versa.

I'm hoping more women morph into wh*res

also i would think a true alpha, a true DJ would want his own family with a good woman at some point.

You'd be wrong. Marriage is for suckers.

So really, man, how old are you? I'm guessing under 25, possibly teen.

 

[EastvsWest]

This thread isn't about turning chicks into hoes. This thread is kicking things up a notch to not miss anything! Life is short, bang chicks. We are all hoes. Male hoes and chick hoes we both like banging. Just 75% of the time it never gets there and never will.

In my 20's I missed so many god damn opportunities because I would make up a reason why I shouldn't do it, or shouldn't make a move. This was my friend's cousin, she is 10 lbs over weight, she is a bit to young, blah blah blah. They wanted it and I knew they did but I pussed out. Late 20's and early 30's I got better and have some good GO for it Moments that worked out. (point of the thread) Mid 30's relationships, now getting closer to 40 and I keep thinking I haven't banged enough chicks. Don't get me wrong if the right one came along it would be cool, but I have told myself no more missed opps. I missed 3 in May and told myself this is the "SUMMER OF STRIKING WHEN THE IRON IS HOT" Any ignore a bunch of these fools on here because a girl isn't going to bang you if she doesn't want to. Guys are just dumbasses sometimes and can't read or react to the blatant signals.

 

[LiveFreeX]

I Fail Only Because I Dare to Succeed

Follow Your Instinct. It's Usually Correct.

Intellectual isn't Sexual.

I May Be Wrong but I Doubt It

"No Can't: Only Will or Won't"

These are all very self serving and stupid tag lines. Intellectual isn't Sexual? WTF. Instead lets promote idiot women who can't cook, clean or do anything right. I may be wrong but I doubt it? Is this how you really think... Follow your instinct? Are you people just a bunch of animals now?


Kicking life up a notch is now banging tons of girls? Thats retarded. How about kicking life up a notch by improving quality of life for men.

Strike when the iron is hot blah blah... bunch of horny men who are not getting any.

Life is short have kids early.
Life is short work hard and make money.
Life is short save for retirement, put off travel.
Life is short, fvk as much as possible, ignore life.

Life is short/Kick it up a notch <--- bvll**** to justify doing something stupid.

Life is not short enough to justify banging low quality women and ruining the REST of your life. Use discretion, live carefully, make plans, set realistic goals OUTSIDE of women. Do not spend your time roving around looking for random women to fvck. Shame BOTH women and men who promote hedonism, it is your right to want to live in a normal society. When someone says to me, lets kick it up a notch, life is short, I think: Mars One, Deep Sea Diving, Science, Better quality of life, Monuments to civilization...that kind of stuff... not fvck women...

If you think about it this way, you could kick it up a notch and then spend LIFE in prison... that is a VERY long time. Life has been going on a long long time and more recently its getting worse for guys. Not only are men focusing on frivolous pursuits like gaming every girl in sight or sleeping with random hoes but they are not living up to their full potential. America was not built by a bunch of horny guys shouting "GUY POWER!!!!" and continually having to 'man up and learn game to trump other guys', it was built by married men with loads of children who had no problems meeting a QUALITY woman.... back when women WERE quality. What has been built this generation? At one point America was on the moon... now? Thats right...nothing... NASA doesn't even have a space program anymore. Men are no longer working together, they are working against each other and are letting women rule their thoughts and lives. Men who built your country were married men, getting enough sex that sex was no longer important. You CANNOT achieve this as a single man. Men and women NEED to work together, not as independent, self satisfaction seeking units but as friends who can count on each other not to upset the all important family structures through hedonism. Nothing will be built by men and women of the ME generation who 'live for today'.

This site is devolving into a circle jerk of reverse feminism. You go grrl... I mean MAAN!!!! You live strong, independent and never get married or commit! Never have children! Just pump and dump forever...yeah!!! Go men.... man power!!!!

This is why China and the 3rd world countries are growing while America is falling by the wayside. Realize that this is why facebook, mobiles and sh1t attitudes rule the West. There are no jobs? Why? Some selfish prick sold them all out... now everyone is acting that way, families are falling apart, women are nuts and men are living by themselves. There are no jobs anymore because there is no family left. You cant expect women to get better if you are just out to fvck and dump every woman you come across. You can't expect to have jobs if there are no children or future generation to work for.

You need to BE the change you wish to see in the world. If you wish for women to have integrity, you have to have it. If you wish for women to become more responsible mothers, you have to prepare to be a father. If you wish to see America flourish, you need to work with others to build it. If you wish for women to be hedonistic wh0res, continue down the same path.