Alright guys, I want to be honest with you

[bigdave17]

I've been doing lots and lots of introspection recently and I've realized that most of what you all have told me has been true.

I've struggled miserably in dating because I just haven't been myself with women. When it comes to making friends- I'm super chill, confident, I'm not desperate at all, I don't care because I already have a million friends. As an end result, I make friends everywhere I go. With women, I'm the polar opposite - I want it so badly that I come across as desperate or I'm scared to initiate at all. I'm just not able to get to know women while being completely outcome independent

I think my problem has been that I don't subsconsciously feel that I really deserve someone in my league so I'm trying to make something happen (which makes me come across as desperate). If I believed 100% that I deserve to have an attractive girlfriend, I would automatically expect women to love me so I wouldn't come across as desperate. I need to convince myself that dating is nowhere near as difficult as I thought it was.

 

[skinnyguy]

That’s good bro. Glad you’re realizing now when there is still time to rectify.

My whole life I’ve suffered from lack of self esteem. I think I’m ugly and anti social. Yet I’ve had several women recently tell me I’m good looking and social. They think I should have a wife and family now cause I’m such a great catch yet here I am scrolling through profiles online.

Women have a desperation radar. They can detect it from miles away. Change your approach from wanting to get laid to just getting to know someone new and see if it works. I think the whole wanting to get laid thing messes it up for a lot of guys because it causes them to make mistakes. When you are outcome independent the women will probably think you’re on their level.

 

[bigdave17]

That’s good bro. Glad you’re realizing now when there is still time to rectify.

My whole life I’ve suffered from lack of self esteem. I think I’m ugly and anti social. Yet I’ve had several women recently tell me I’m good looking and social. They think I should have a wife and family now cause I’m such a great catch yet here I am scrolling through profiles online.

Women have a desperation radar. They can detect it from miles away. Change your approach from wanting to get laid to just getting to know someone new and see if it works. I think the whole wanting to get laid thing messes it up for a lot of guys because it causes them to make mistakes. When you are outcome independent the women will probably think you’re on their level.

I don't care about getting laid, I really want a relationship

but the desperation for both things is the same

 

[Chev.Chelios]

when you get to the point of never wanting a relationship because you've embraced the truth of reality, you will be happy. trust me.

it's hard to swallow, impossible actually.. you're going to get your azz beaten into the dirt when you finaly realize what's really going on in the universe.

society has conditioned you to want to be married and love/supplicate to woman.

nature for men and woman is doing the exact oppisite.

you know when your a baby you learn how to speak your language without even knowing it? by the time your 5 you can speak full sentenaces?

if you try to learn a new language as an adult it's a realllllll long btch of learning and practising.

blue pill social conditioning is the language we learn naturally, and being a true man grounded in his god given masculinity is one you were told doesn't exist.. the funny thing is, it's already within you.

I've had nights out were I was able to mind **** myself into a crazy wacky state and make out with every gurl in the bar, get numbers and pull the hottest gurl for a night of fvcking.

then the next morning I wake up back to my old beta chitty self again and the gurls that once loved me get mad because I'm a typical blue pilled fvck wad.

I firmly believe now the blue pilled beliefs every man has aquired since birth has been a form if abuse. absolute emasculation of our true selves, and sometimes we are able to break out of it which shows their is something deeply wrong the way we have been raised.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

when you get to the point of never wanting a relationship because you've embraced the truth of reality, you will be happy. trust me.

it's hard to swallow, impossible actually.. you're going to get your azz beaten into the dirt when you finaly realize what's really going on in the universe.

society has conditioned you to want to be married and love/supplicate to woman.

nature for men and woman is doing the exact oppisite.

you know when your a baby you learn how to speak your language without even knowing it? by the time your 5 you can speak full sentenaces?

if you try to learn a new language as an adult it's a realllllll long btch of learning and practising.

blue pill social conditioning is the language we learn naturally, and being a true man grounded in his god given masculinity is one you were told doesn't exist.. the funny thing is, it's already within you.

I've had nights out were I was able to mind **** myself into a crazy wacky state and make out with every gurl in the bar, get numbers and pull the hottest gurl for a night of fvcking.

then the next morning I wake up back to my old beta chitty self again and the gurls that once loved me get mad because I'm a typical blue pilled fvck wad.

I firmly believe now the blue pilled beliefs every man has aquired since birth has been a form if abuse. absolute emasculation of our true selves, and sometimes we are able to break out of it which shows their is something deeply wrong the way we have been raised.

So how should we be living?

Unfortunately, there is no way to protect your assets from a female if you are going to have kids.

 

[Chev.Chelios]

So how should we be living?

Unfortunately, there is no way to protect your assets from a female if you are going to have kids.

you use your head

 

[RichardTheFrog]

you use your head

There's really no way to avoid the pitfalls of dealing with females, other than to completely avoid them. But that's kind of stupid and boring.

 

[Chev.Chelios]

Men and woman have always been in surpressed societys where their natural rights have been taken away.

the sad part is the general population doesn't even fvcking know they are being surpressed.
millions of men and woman crying about each other constantly, because the Disney land fairytale they were taught is completely utterly wrong.

I'd rather be a man that knows the reality of woman then one who doesnt.

it's better to be aware then to be the typical idiot getting ass raped by divorce losing everything having zero clue wtf happened.

when your fvcking around with gurls be aware that's all.

 

[sph21]

I've been doing lots and lots of introspection recently and I've realized that most of what you all have told me has been true.

I don't really know you. So, I could only guess who you are from what you wrote. You're making a good progress by realizing what you wrote here.

I've struggled miserably in dating because I just haven't been myself with women. When it comes to making friends- I'm super chill, confident, I'm not desperate at all, I don't care because I already have a million friends. As an end result, I make friends everywhere I go. With women, I'm the polar opposite - I want it so badly that I come across as desperate or I'm scared to initiate at all.

This is why I said that you're a nice guy but still don't realize it. Nice guys aren't being true to themselves.

Nice guys have these similar beliefs:

• Nice guys believe that women are fragile creatures and in order to win women's affections, they need to act nice all the time.
• Nice guys believe that the only way to get a girlfriend is through friendship. The surest path to end in friendzone is to treat women like you treat a friend. So, if you want to have a sexual relationship with a girl, always make sure that your intention is known to her. This kind of skill needs practices. The only way to master it is to let yourself fail sometimes.
• Nice guys are always pedestalizing women as goddesses or princesses or angels. Women are just women. They're human like us. By putting them above us, we're digging our own graves.

I need to convince myself that dating is nowhere near as difficult as I thought it was.

It's not that difficult if you have the right mindset. This is why I'm recommending you to read DJ Bible. It helped me to understand life & women and I hope it will help you the same or even more than what I can imagine for you.

 

[bigdave17]

I don't really know you. So, I could only guess who you are from what you wrote. You're making a good progress by realizing what you wrote here.


This is why I said that you're a nice guy but still don't realize it. Nice guys aren't being true to themselves.

Nice guys have these similar beliefs:

• Nice guys believe that women are fragile creatures and in order to win women's affections, they need to act nice all the time.
• Nice guys believe that the only way to get a girlfriend is through friendship. The surest path to end in friendzone is to treat women like you treat a friend. So, if you want to have a sexual relationship with a girl, always make sure that your intention is known to her. This kind of skill needs practices. The only way to master it is to let yourself fail sometimes.
• Nice guys are always pedestalizing women as goddesses or princesses or angels. Women are just women. They're human like us. By putting them above us, we're digging our own graves.

It's not that difficult if you have the right mindset. This is why I'm recommending you to read DJ Bible. It helped me to understand life & women and I hope it will help you the same or even more than what I can imagine for you.

reading books on dating for someone like me is stupid IMO

I'm naturally very good socially. I don't need to go into analysis by paralysis. I need to work on being myself around women (confident, carefree, not desperate, not trying to impress them, etc..).

 

[Asasione]

reading books on dating for someone like me is stupid IMO

I'm naturally very good socially. I don't need to go into analysis by paralysis. I need to work on being myself around women (confident, carefree, not desperate, not trying to impress them, etc..).

You're not special so claiming for someone like me is pure idiocy. You have a lot to learn and the book he's suggesting will certainly give you a different perspective but won't be a magic bullet to solve your problems. I strongly suggest you take the time to read it regardless. You want to know how to make women love you as I've told you several times you need to learn and practice a lot to get to a point where your self is an attractive, confident and outcome independent person.

It's easy to assume that you can be that person if you just behave the same way you do with your friends and other people but it doesn't work that way with women. What you need for women to love you isn't the same as your friends. One good thing that could help a stubborn person like yourself is to make friends with someone who is naturally good with women and hang out with him often. You'll come to learn through experiences with him what women respond to instead of having your head up your arse talking about people love me.