Alphas and Betas

[Cheiradawg]

It is common throughout the animal kingdom for males who aren't "alpha" to mimick those males who are "alpha." It is obvious why this occurs. The only way these males can successfuly mate with top notch females is to play games in hope of tricking a nieve one into mating with them. This board is an attempt by human males to do the same thing. Instead of showing our feathers like peacocks some guys learn NLP, c+f, neg hits, ect. as a science, and are obsessed with learning which situtations to apply them in in hope to do it enough time to get some poon. Human "Beta" males use their brain to mimick while other species use feathers horns and mating calls. Hell this is a very tempting way to go about the process because it ****ing works like hell in theory and reality. Some girls are dump enough to fall for it, but the best ones aren't. Back-up and look at this for what it really is. What is actually going on here when a guy even thinks about turning this into a science is that he is taking his first step toward mimicking the "alphas."

This is a bad road to start driving down, but it is hella hard to resist. For a guy who doesn't get any alittle hope that the info on this site brings is a welcome joy when chicks start reacting positively to it. However this is a trap, and an additive trap at that. It is easy to become dependant on these things and that philosophy, but guess what through all of this crap you are the same "Beta" male. THe only diffrence is that now you are a beta male with refined tactics. And guess what the best girls can see through this. It might take them a while but they will eventually.

If any of you read Sen. Fingers stuff this is exactly what happoned to him. He wrote all the tatics in WEAPONS OF MASS SEDUCTION, to which the "Beta" males exaulted him as the king beta. Then what happoned. He met a truly genuine chick and she saw through him. He really liked her but she dumped him. Then he wrote SHATTERING THE LIMITS where he said in so many words "fvck the tacitcs I'm not a beta, I'm tired of the fasade let see who I really am."

Ever met and got to know a genuine chick that you were attracted to and really wanted to be with because you liked her and she then dumped you for something that you knew deep down was wrong with you. This will always happon because some chicks are genuine happy people with no issues and these are the chicks that are the best. However they also want the best in return and if you are not it they will dump you. If you are a guy who is blessed enough to recognize these chicks, then the tacitcs will never be enough. Only genuine people get other genuine people.

My point is that there is no pot at the end of the tactics' rainbow. The rainbow is an illusion, there is no end, and chasing it is futile.

 

[Chaos-Knight]

For me I don't care if I'm alpha or whatever.

Just being happy with life is all that matters,
It's nice to get laid at least once a month
and so a few tricks aren't gona damn me to hell.
I'm not really into seduction that much
but I see it as a tool and not a way of life.

As for the girls that are too smart for it
I don't really care cause there are billions
of fish in the sea and a few bad apples
ain't gona change things....

You ether "click" or you don't,sometimes
you have to accept you can't have what you want
so instead of drooling about it = move on and keep looking.

The best part about this site is it encourages improvement
and it gives us new life to go out keep getting rejected and
play the game and not to give up.

 

[40quid]

Cheiradawg,

So basically, what you're saying is that you can't "act as if" you are alpha. This refers to the guys who are learning every trick and tactic in the book, but really don't have their inner game in order.

If that's what you're saying, I totally agree with you. None of the tips or tactics really work in the long run if you don't have confidence and a true belief in yourself.

However, if what you're saying is that a beta can't learn to adopt that mindset and become alpha, I completely disagree with you.

Of course, this applies to anything in life. You can go out there and learn all the flashy tricks on the guitar, but if someone asked you to play a song that didn't incorporate those tricks and you didn't even have a rudimentary understanding of music theory, you will be branded as a fraud pretty quick.

40 quid

 

[Big Pappy]

There's a saying. It goes "Fake it until you make it."

The tactics, tricks, schemes, whatever you wish to call them, they are tools that anyone can learn about.

It's much like chess; anyone can learn the rules. Operating within the limits of those rules takes a good deal of trial and error for some people.

Most of us have read Pooks post on testosterone (26 pages!!) which explain that it is the level of testosterone that has an impact on whether or not the girl is attracted to you. It's really a causative relationship. The high testosterone levels are what we believe factor into the behaviors and attitudes of the jerk. So, if the AFC adopts those behaviors, perhaps the female will be duped into believing that the "beta" is an "alpha".

We have also read that imitation is not the way to go. This is because our true selves will come out eventually. It is this role playing that make women always talk about honesty. You are even lying to yourself when you play this role.

So where does that leave the frustrated male? He is told not to fake it. He is told to be himself. This is excellent advice. Pook has stated that by improving ourselves, we become active in raising our standards. It is during this process of self-improvement that our confidence levels rise. We base our self esteem on our accomplishments, not whether or not some cutie gives us a smile.

The ladies become curious about what it is we are devoting our time and attention to. Yes, it's interest level, or curiosity. This level of interest dictates the way things will end up.


Interest --> rapport---> trust --> intimacy -->

Those of you with some field experience know that some women are easier to talk to than others. There are several reasons for this. Some were having better days than others, some are not as pretty as others or have a lower self esteem and are thus more receptive to dialogue from a new person.

I would suggest that the greater the interest level on the girls side, the easier it is to talk to the girl. She makes it easier because she likes you and/or is attracted to you.

The ****y, funny tactics are just a way of getting a girls attention.
You can get as much attention as you like, but you can't increase the attraction by trying to be someone that you are not - at least not for very long.

How many women have you "next"-ed because they just weren't attracted to you? Even the Pook has been rejected. So, we can see that it is hard enough to find what we're seeking doing everything right. So, we must busy ourselves with improvement. It is not the improvement that the female finds attractive. It is the realization on both of your parts that while you were busy, the sun continued to rise. Your absence has made her heart grow fonder.

You have learned that although you might think of yourself as an AFC, forcing yourself to do other things to occupy your mind, you learn that you really don't need her. It is the detachment that she wishes to overcome. You had talked to her before -- frequently. You made her laugh. But where are you now? She doesn't know. If she has interest level she will want to know. If she doesn't, than you have made better use of your time by not wasting it on her.


Embrace your life. Make every effort to improve yourself and your life will change for the better.

 

[Ice Cold]

Nooooo

It's another post about not chasing HB9+

They are seducible, they just require different approach that's all. The fact that finger got dumped doesn't mean that our situation is hopeless here.

 

[MetalFortress]

Actually, it's a good post, reminding us what Pook as been telling us forever. It's all in mindset.