Almost all relationships that are ended by women are already trash before

[CornbreadFed]

Not necessarily no. The truth is somewhere in the middle. It depends.

All my HS sweet heart marriage friends are mostly divorced wrecks that lost their twenties or live the typical Church Cracker Barrel every Sunday with the folks type life. I wouldn’t wish it on my worse enemies lol.

 

[SW15]

All my HS sweet heart marriage friends are mostly divorced wrecks that lost their twenties or live the typical Church Cracker Barrel every Sunday with the folks type life. I wouldn’t wish it on my worse enemies lol.

I can believe that. It goes back to my idea that relationships have a shelf life.

When a man marries today, there's is ~80% likelihood of AT LEAST ONE of the following 3 things happening.

• An affair (either you, her, or both of you)
• A divorce
• A mediocre to subpar soul killing relationship that feels like it goes on interminably. This phase often precedes an affair or occurs after one or both partners has an affair.

Not a great way to live life.

 

[SW15]

"Love lasts 3 years" -Frédéric Beigbeder

I have consistently put my shelf life for romantic relationships at 5 years. Someone needs decent frame to get 5 good years. Frame issues are known to reduce that number.

Relationships (men women couples) are not meant to last. It's a temporary thing like @BaronOfHair sairid.

I am aligned with the two of you on this idea.

One thing that I think is problematic for a lot of people is that it is common for romantic relationships to go longer than 5 years. In my social circle (some of which is discussed in the thread below), I know many couples that have been together longer than 5 years. Many of them have been married longer than 5 years now and have relationships that have been 7+ years or 10+ years now.

Some of them will admit that their relationship has gone downhill to some level.

Pregnancy Announcements Everywhere! Life When Your Blue Pill Social Circle Starts Having Babies

Yesterday, I was on my Instagram and saw a pregnancy announcement from an acquaintance's wife in my social circle. I don't particularly like her. I find it annoying to be around her the 1-2 times a year I ever randomly see her in person. Right now, there are 3 women from my local area social...

www.sosuave.net

Of course you will see some exceptions, some old folks who have been married for 60 years but they are exceptions and I think most of them are either emotionally dependent or have had affairs...

There are some couples that exist today that formed a long time ago in a very different sexual marketplace. Many of them formed in the 1960s-1980s, a time where The Sexual Revolution was underway but it wasn't as ingrained as it has been post-1990. Some older Gen X'ers who formed relationships in the 1990s might still be together today. An example of this is Rollo Tomassi (in his mid 50s) and his wife, who have been together since the mid-1990s. Even the young adult Gen X'ers of the 1990s had a different sexual marketplace than post 2005 or post 2010.

In some longer term marriages, there have been affairs and emotional dependency.

Most people I know who been together for a long time live a miserable life and wish they could break free and leave their partner but they just can't.

I have observed this as well.

And even in these instances, one will likely die before the other. Thus, such unions end also

That's considered a success because of the marriage vow "Till Death Do You Part". Having a coupling of 40+ or 50+ years with a relationship ending in a death of one of the partners is considered the model relationship in the blue pill world.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Of course you will see some exceptions, some old folks who have been married for 60 years....

And even in these instances, one will likely die before the other. Thus, such unions end also

 

[Manure Spherian]

I have consistently put my shelf life for romantic relationships at 5 years. Someone needs decent frame to get 5 good years. Frame issues are known to reduce that number.



I am aligned with the two of you on this idea.

One thing that I think is problematic for a lot of people is that it is common for romantic relationships to go longer than 5 years. In my social circle (some of which is discussed in the thread below), I know many couples that have been together longer than 5 years. Many of them have been married longer than 5 years now and have relationships that have been 7+ years or 10+ years now.

Some of them will admit that their relationship has gone downhill to some level.

Pregnancy Announcements Everywhere! Life When Your Blue Pill Social Circle Starts Having Babies

Yesterday, I was on my Instagram and saw a pregnancy announcement from an acquaintance's wife in my social circle. I don't particularly like her. I find it annoying to be around her the 1-2 times a year I ever randomly see her in person. Right now, there are 3 women from my local area social...

www.sosuave.net

There are some couples that exist today that formed a long time ago in a very different sexual marketplace. Many of them formed in the 1960s-1980s, a time where The Sexual Revolution was underway but it wasn't as ingrained as it has been post-1990. Some older Gen X'ers who formed relationships in the 1990s might still be together today. An example of this is Rollo Tomassi (in his mid 50s) and his wife, who have been together since the mid-1990s. Even the young adult Gen X'ers of the 1990s had a different sexual marketplace than post 2005 or post 2010.

In some longer term marriages, there have been affairs and emotional dependency.



I have observed this as well.



That's considered a success because of the marriage vow "Till Death Do You Part". Having a coupling of 40+ or 50+ years with a relationship ending in a death of one of the partners is considered the model relationship in the blue pill world.

Only Rollo Tomato is advanced enough to have a great marriage. He is above all married dirt people.

 

[Manure Spherian]

. Having a coupling of 40+ or 50+ years with a relationship ending in a death of one of the partners is considered the model relationship in the blue pill world.

This is my goal. Does this make me blue pilled despite all I’ve observed, experienced, and know? I’ve had options to cheat, but I didn’t.

 

[pipeman84]

Ummmm no

It's either high school lovers that got married or a man later on in his life (hopefully being mature enough to choose properly) marrying an early 20s woman. Other than that it makes no sense for a man to marry and barring some exceptional circumstance, it's a pathetic scenario for a man to be in. A guy who would not accept being overcharged for groceries, the car he buys or being paid less than what the contract/minimum legal requirement states, sees it as an achievement to tie himself down to a woman who's given her best years to some other guys.

 

[Manure Spherian]

sees it as an achievement to tie himself down to a woman who's given her best years to some other guys.

It’s important to not marry what my close friend and I call a “professional girlfriend”. The marriages I see lasting and going amongst my Gen X/Xennial have women who weren’t that.

Vetting a professional gf is easy to do.

 

[Manure Spherian]

Only Rollo Tomato is advanced enough to have a great marriage. He is above all married dirt people.

From a recent article in Rollo’s Substack. I lol’ed for real from it. Rollo has written similar stuff in the past (he big sex dynamo and cyborg above mere mortals).

 

[pipeman84]

It’s important to not marry what my close friend and I call a “professional girlfriend”. The marriages I see lasting and going amongst my Gen X/Xennial have women who weren’t that.

Vetting a professional gf is easy to do.

That's a great point which is totally missed by the (usually) red pill guys who categorise women's body count in 0-5, 5-10, +10 etc, with the first category being presented as wife material and the latter for the streets. Hell no, 0 isn't equal to 5. A 27yrs woman with 3 exes might appear close to ideal to the hapless red piller yet she is a bomb with delayed explosion. In 3-4 yrs time it's dead bedroom and only children or appearances' sake will keep the marriage going.

 

[Manure Spherian]

That's a great point which is totally missed by the (usually) red pill guys who categorise women's body count in 0-5, 5-10, +10 etc, with the first category being presented as wife material and the latter for the streets. Hell no, 0 isn't equal to 5. A 27yrs woman with 3 exes might appear close to ideal to the hapless red piller yet she is a bomb with delayed explosion. In 3-4 yrs time it's dead bedroom and only children or appearances' sake will keep the marriage going.

100 percent.

 

[Manure Spherian]

I j

That's a great point which is totally missed by the (usually) red pill guys who categorise women's body count in 0-5, 5-10, +10 etc, with the first category being presented as wife material and the latter for the streets. Hell no, 0 isn't equal to 5. A 27yrs woman with 3 exes might appear close to ideal to the hapless red piller yet she is a bomb with delayed explosion. In 3-4 yrs time it's dead bedroom and only children or appearances' sake will keep the marriage going.

I’ll add that a great deal of American women are professional girlfriends, and started as such since thirteen years old. And such females usually give up their virginity to the scum of the earth, in some cases to men in their twenties (it’s hushed-up statutory rape). By the time these women reach their 20’s, after having one “narcissistic” or abusive boyfriend (might be fake or real abuse), the areas of their brains that deal with romance, sex, and love are rotted.

Middle-aged aged RP madmen (most of them fit this) are cleaning up Chad’s leftovers, and Chad beat them to the party 30 to 35 years ago—literally—just by existing (no self-improvement required). Haha!

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

From a recent article in Rollo’s Substack. I lol’ed for real from it. Rollo has written similar stuff in the past (he big sex dynamo and cyborg above mere mortals). View attachment 13459

That is brilliant. Kudos.

 

[SW15]

This is my goal. Does this make me blue pilled despite all I’ve observed, experienced, and know? I’ve had options to cheat, but I didn’t.

I don't think having the goal of a "Till Death Do You Part" relationship makes someone blue pilled automatically. I think those with a blue pill ideology are more likely to think that can happen than red pill ideology men.

 

[Manure Spherian]

I don't think having the goal of a "Till Death Do You Part" relationship makes someone blue pilled automatically. I think those with a blue pill ideology are more likely to think that can happen than red pill ideology men.

Do you think that some couples have relationships or marriages that suck because they suck?

 

[Fruitbat]

Many of these issues could be prevented or at least be spotted a lot earlier if men were as in touch with their emotions as women, generally speaking.

Hate to say it, but the average woman is a step above the average man in that regard.

I'm tempted to say it's not fvcking hard, but then I remind myself that many men don't have the slightest clue about how this works. It's sad.

im not sure on that. Most women I know live in a fantasy world in terms of their requirements from a partner, and insist on someone who pays the bills, takes care of the kids, is a poet yet a MMA champion.

Listen to the epic smokescreen whenever they talk about the guy they want, versus the men they choose. And also the qualities they ascribe said men. I know two women at least who wax on about their men and both men are ugly, criminal layabouts.

 

[Serenity]

im not sure on that. Most women I know live in a fantasy world in terms of their requirements from a partner, and insist on someone who pays the bills, takes care of the kids, is a poet yet a MMA champion.

Listen to the epic smokescreen whenever they talk about the guy they want, versus the men they choose. And also the qualities they ascribe said men. I know two women at least who wax on about their men and both men are ugly, criminal layabouts.

Are you questioning the statement that women are a step above? If so I said the average woman. That still means there's a significant amount of women below this average, so it's not hard to see that the crap you describe exists.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

You know who has it good? People who met in highschool and got married and stayed together. They now have children and they don't need anything else.

Except those are oftentimes the ones getting divorced at 30 because they have not had any experiences with others and they find themselves wanting that or getting bored/tired of their partner or "growing apart".

 

[BaronOfHair]

There's truth to this. Full blown single motherhood is more of a thing for the poor.

This is one of the many subjects that precipitated my(and many others's) falling out with The Men's Rights Movement. Loudly and often as folks like Paul Elam, his chief lackey Tom Golden, Karen Straughan, and Aly Tieman claim to care about fatherlessness in America, every attempt to get them interested in efforts like making vocational training more widely available(So that more citizens, especially men, can move up the socioecomic ladder. Where risks of fathering kids out of wedlock decreases into the single digits)was met with the retort: "That's not a men's rights issue"

Which, as reasoning goes, is more absurd than asserting: "There's no connection between educating folks about the perils of emotional eating and decreasing rates of obesity"