allow users to ignore moderators

[check_mate_kid_uk]

we seem to have specialy days to remember just about everyone and everything, so why not have one for the moderators. Today is already a bank holiday in the UK so it can not be today

well i hear by name tomorow (4th januray 2005) official moderators day on sosuave and shall be celebrated on the 4th januray every year.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by diablo
That could be due to there being so much posting that they have nothing but work to do from the moment they log on until the instant they leave. That or perhaps their postings contribute such a negligable fraction of the total count (or are so uncontroversial) that you really never notice they're speaking in the first place. Here, we like to be able to sit back and talk to people.

There's no reason why moderators can't post. However, when they do post, how they behave does tend to set the overall tone of the forum. This is why it's really a bad idea to use moderators who behave badly. It sort of sets a very negative precedent for the site. This is also the reason why there is now a situation here where a considerable amount of members are or have complained about moderators.

Now, if someone is volunteering at a hospital or nursing home and spends the bulk of their volunteer time antagonizing and being rude and obnoxious to the patients...they get let go. It doesn't matter that they don't get paid or that they are just volunteers. Since their behavior breeds negativity, the people who run the places know that by keeping them around they are bringing undue problems and negative issues to deal with that they wouldn't otherwise have to deal with if they just fired the volunteer.

Basically what I'm saying is that it would make the well-behaved moderators' jobs much, much easier if the badly behaved ones were replaced with ones that don't devote so much time to breeding contempt...and there would be no reason to even discuss this issue about ignoring moderators to begin with.

 

[Giovanni Casanova]

A moderator moves a post about getting a prom date from the Discussion forum to the High School forum and suddenly he has an enemy for life.

He closes a thread where a guy makes the claim that black women are not as sexy as white women and the original poster makes fifteen threads in every forum attacking the moderator for closing his thread.

He merges a thread about meeting girls on Yahoo! Personals with another thread about meeting girls on match.com and the first poster puts a thread in Suggestions and Feedback about how all moderators suck ass.

He opens his email and sees 50 "Alerted Posts" about a post, he deletes the post and then gets his PM box filled with angry messages from the poster.

A picture of a member's head gets superimposed onto a picture of a pigeon and the DJ photo thread becomes an enormous racial flame war, but when the moderators turn it into a "photo only, no comments" photo gallery, they get called fascist Nazis.

The Suggestions & Feedback forum gets clogged with thread after thread about how moderators should close all threads that are easily answered by the DJ Bible ("How should I be ****y & funny?"... "Is this a neg hit?"... "How Do I Know if She Likes Me or Not?"), but if the moderators actually do that... they get a million PMs about how they are thugs who hate free speech.

It doesn't matter who you are, there are going to be "difficult" people who will not be happy with you no matter what you do. They will ask you to bend the rules of space and time for their personal pleasure and when you don't do it, they will be pissed off. Life goes on.

Some people want to make it their personal crusade to get some unpaid, volunteer moderators on an internet discussion site "fired", and if that's what gets them through the night... more power to them. Whatever I can do to give someone's empty life a little meaning, you know?

 

[diablo]

There will always be some level of discontent in any society... - diablo, 1/4/2005

 

[Paradox]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
It's true of most large forums, but not of smaller ones. I've mostly spent time on the larger sites.

This is not true either. Why can't women ever admit it when they are wrong?

Ok Wyld, You're right, Mod's shouldn't post

LOL

 

[comic_relief]

this post was SO last year...

 

[Cesare Cardinali]

I didn't even know there was an option to ignore anyone in this site. I figure you just ignore a post or poster you don't like.

With that said, I could see how some mods can be annoying as hell and only post to make fun of people and quite frankly this is the only board (and I belong to tons of them) where some mods act in such a fashion that people would want to ignore them.

But to actually go and re-write all kinds of geeky computer script to do it is pretty lame.

Cesare Cardinali

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Paradox
This is not true either. Why can't women ever admit it when they are wrong?

Ok Wyld, You're right, Mod's shouldn't post

LOL

Paradox, you know full well that I never said moderators shouldn't post if they want to. What I AM saying is that if they are going to post they should do so in a way that sets an example for the other members...a POSITIVE example. There are some moderators on this site who do NOT set a positive example. If they aren't part of the plan then they are part of the problem. If moderators are rude, disrespectful and flaming people left and right that is the kind of behavior you will see from forum members.

Yahoo message boards is an example of a large forum site where mods don't post. That is what I was talking about. This isn't a "large" site. In fact, this is only the second forum site I've seen where the moderators post a lot. The other site is essentially unmoderated and a free for all...so although the mods behave badly, the members are allowed to behave just as badly. That situation works, too. What doesn't work is when there is one set of rules for members and the mods don't follow their own rules. That causes animosity and negativity, which is one of the current problems here.

 

[diablo]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
Yahoo message boards is an example of a large forum site where mods don't post.

Those are message boards, not forums. Take a look:

http://messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=topics&board=1602367805&sid=1602367805&type=r

Also, where's the list of who's a moderator of which section?

If you can find a forum where moderators don't generally post much, let me know as I'd be curious to see it as well.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by diablo
Those are message boards, not forums. Take a look:

http://messages.yahoo.com/bbs?action=topics&board=1602367805&sid=1602367805&type=r

Also, where's the list of who's a moderator of which section?

If you can find a forum where moderators don't generally post much, let me know as I'd be curious to see it as well.

Diablo...forums, message boards, discussion boards, discussion forums are ALL the same damn thing. There are moderators who delete posts and accounts on Yahoo boards just as there are moderators on here.

 

[diablo]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
Diablo...forums, message boards, discussion boards, discussion forums are ALL the same damn thing. There are moderators who delete posts and accounts on Yahoo boards just as there are moderators on here.

In name, sure. However when you look at their set up, then look at ours, you'll notice that there's a huge difference. Ours is massively more effecient and user-friendly... however, theirs has to deal with a volume unprecedented on this forum. Anyway, it's a moot issue... that's the way yahoo runs things, and this isn't yahoo - if you or anyone else has such a problem with the way 'some' moderators here post or respond to posts, then you can either do one of the following:

• Get over it. (Recommended.)
• Complain about it. (Seems pretty childish.)
• Mentally ignore the post(er/s) in question. (What anyone 16+ yrs old would do.)
• Leave. (After all, I'm sure Yahoo has a wonderful seduction section filled with nice, loving moderators.)

That's it for me for this thread; I've answered the original intent of the thread within my first few replies - now it seems that it's starting to degrade to petty squabbling such as has been found in several other threads in this section of the forum. I've got better things to do with my day... and I hope everyone else does too.

 

[Vincent]

Rules for moderators:

• Humor is not allowed under any circumstances, they are programmed machines with one goal of seaking and destroying threads with questionable material.
  
• Threads distroyed must not hurt or harm anyones ego in any way shape or form as to this is UNACCEPTABLE behavior for anyone, especially the robot mods.
  
• Threads must be destroyed that are pointless and questionable but must still account for peoples emotions and peoples ability to free speech.
  
• Mods are not allowed to post unless the posts are deemed necessary and crucial by the all mighty architect. They only post with information regarding the movement of a thread, and this post must be devoid of human emotions including said humor.
  
• Mods must lose all emotion when they are given the title "Moderator" as to ensure they do not break any rules above.
  
• Mods must only do things the almighty architect dictates and if the architect does not dictate said moderator action, the moderator should be removed from the forum because it goes against any dictations of the architect. These dictations are anything written in the rules listed here. These rules are the law of the land and all robot moderators must obey.
  
• Moderators must lose all form of life and devote all time to moderating said forum but still removing their desire to post or comment on a situation in any way shape or form. Especially when this post involves humor or sarcasm.
  
• Moderators must respect all members right to post questionable material and if it offends the person they must not delete it as to deleting said thread would infringe upon said persons ability of free speech, No matter how pointless and questionable said persons comments are.
  
• If a moderator offends someone in any way shape or form, the person will inform everyone of said insult. The robot mod must not post in said insult because it goes against the robots programming, the almighty architect will then post in said thread informing everyone of the robot mods terrible actions and will insure said members that said robot moderator will reformat the moderator chip to ensure moderator loses all personality and will no longer insult any members ever again.
  
• The rule above must be inforced, no form of private messaging may be used to inform said moderator of his insult as this will avoid the public shaming of moderators. This public shaming is the only accectable means of informing moderators of said errors.

 

[Oxide]

WishIWas, are you a type of guy who walks out of a movie when he sees nudity? Are you a type of person who is trying to ban swearing on music albums? Are you the type of person who sues Mcdonalds for not saying "COFFEE IS HOT"


come on, stop being a little kid..


NOT DIRECTED TO ANYONE IN PARTICULAR:
It seems like in every city there are people who are just plain dumb.. they are the type of people who get "offended" by the stupidest things.. they are the type of people who are afraid to call African Americans "BLACKS" and think that white person should not dance to hip hop. I am sick and ****ing tired of these people. Stop being pu$$ys, this world isnt a big "cry me a river" land. Everyone has much bigger problems than your little whines.. Keep that stuff to yourself. We dont want to hear it. We want to be able to call a person whatever the hell we want, and ACCEPT THE POSSIBILITY that we will either a.get the crap beat out of us or B. make a great impression and befriend a person.

Everyone get your hands on some Carlos Mencia stand up. It is exactly what im talking about. K a zaa has it.


IF you got offended.. i dont care.

Peace.

 

[Paradox]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
Paradox, you know full well that I never said moderators shouldn't post if they want to. What I AM saying is that if they are going to post they should do so in a way that sets an example for the other members...a POSITIVE example. There are some moderators on this site who do NOT set a positive example. If they aren't part of the plan then they are part of the problem. If moderators are rude, disrespectful and flaming people left and right that is the kind of behavior you will see from forum members.

Yahoo message boards is an example of a large forum site where mods don't post. That is what I was talking about. This isn't a "large" site. In fact, this is only the second forum site I've seen where the moderators post a lot. The other site is essentially unmoderated and a free for all...so although the mods behave badly, the members are allowed to behave just as badly. That situation works, too. What doesn't work is when there is one set of rules for members and the mods don't follow their own rules. That causes animosity and negativity, which is one of the current problems here.

I agree with you and Ceasar C. that the Moderators should be well behaved here. The Moderators should be trying to make themselves better men (DJ’s).

The best case scenario would be that the true DJ's become the leaders of the discussion forum. The reality of the situation is that when we need a Moderator we ask for volunteers. Out of those we have to try and choose the best.

The Job duties of the Moderator are:
1) To guide (moderate) the discussions to make sure that they stay on topic.
2) To enforce the rules of the forum.
3) To edit, modify, merge or delete posts as they see fit, in order to keep the forum clean and orderly.

I do post sometimes but not as much as I did in the "Golden Age" of this forum. I agree with you that Moderators should write quality posts and not just post for posting's sake. Every post from a Moderator should benefit the forum in some manner.

This board has come a long way. I remember when there were only 300 registered members. Back in those days fighting between posters was common. It is much better here now.

I agree with my fellow Moderators. Often, when my fellow Moderators perform their duties they are critised. I think that my fellow Moderators need to just do what Admin assigned them to do and be a little thicker skinned. You just can't please 14,000 people. You can make it a better place for most of them though.

We also need to remember that there are 10 year olds (literally and figuratively) here. Let's not forget the Trolls, Flame baiters, Attention Wh0res and general troublemakers. All of these make the Moderators job much harder.

Like others here I also belong to larger sites. Some are strictly moderated some are not.

 

[WishIWas]

Well, I never got an answer from the vBulletin support forum. I guess I have no choice but to forget about it for now.

Moderators and senior members, I feel, should lead by example. I've been here over a year, but perhaps I should follow the footsteps of some older, wiser posters and do the following:

1) hijack threads
2) insult people for little/no reason
3) be as obnoxious and unbending as possible.
4) ignore Allen's wishes about forum conduct.

finally we can all agree on something.

 

[diplomatic_lie]

Geez, its just a message board.