All it takes is two things to make her love you forever

[CuddleJunkie]

I understand what the other DJs are saying, they are into full DJ lifestyle and they don't want to lose their time training a girl. But there are other people that would like to have kids in the future, and knowledge like this, that can make a marriage last long is golden. I really appreciate your efforts beforeimgone, don't stop defending this material.
At the end, we must understand that women are useful for sexual pleasure and for having kids, it's up to everyone of us to decide what we want in our current stage of life. I think Rollo Tomassi's time line is reasonable, fuk b¡tches until you are 37, and then if you want to raise a son find a somewhat decent girl. Is then when this methods become gold.

 

[NSX-R]

I understand what the other DJs are saying, they are into full DJ lifestyle and they don't want to lose their time training a girl. But there are other people that would like to have kids in the future, and knowledge like this, that can make a marriage last long is golden. I really appreciate your efforts beforeimgone, don't stop defending this material.
At the end, we must understand that women are useful for sexual pleasure and for having kids, it's up to everyone of us to decide what we want in our current stage of life. I think Rollo Tomassi's time line is reasonable, fuk b¡tches until you are 37, and then if you want to raise a son find a somewhat decent girl. Is then when this methods become gold.

Fck chicks till you become 30 something and settle down for one that you can make family with.
Till then you will have enough experience to deal with everything. You might have to take a step back sometimes because egoism in a married couple is not always a good idea if you want to hold this marriage.

In my observings , men that used to have a lot of chicks before they get married, usually have a very solid and strong marriage that last for long time.

I don't see why a dj can't succeed in this department.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Damn, from what I can tell through your posts, you seem like a master manipulator and charmer. Your a sociopath. You choose your victims carefully and examine who, what, and how they are by your dealings with them. Then if they benefit you the most, you may (or may not) stick with them, depending on how you feel, and for however long you feel like sticking with them. You've even learned how to place her emotions where you want them whenever you want them.

Damn man. Kudos to you brotha. I'm striving to become at least partially like you. If you dont mind me asking, when/how did you learn all of this?

 

[Maximus Rex]

I'm a very strong proponent of disciplining boards. If you discipline a board then this sh*t will happen. Go to 3:23-3:37 of the clip

However, I believe that you should only get violent with a woman as a last resort and even then, if you have to raise your had to a b*tch, then that's a b*tch you really don't need to be with. With that being said, she does need to know in back of mind that you will knock her punk ass the f*ck out if need be.

 

[beforeimgone]

Damn, from what I can tell through your posts, you seem like a master manipulator and charmer. Your a sociopath. You choose your victims carefully and examine who, what, and how they are by your dealings with them. Then if they benefit you the most, you may (or may not) stick with them, depending on how you feel, and for however long you feel like sticking with them. You've even learned how to place her emotions where you want them whenever you want them.

Damn man. Kudos to you brotha. I'm striving to become at least partially like you. If you dont mind me asking, when/how did you learn all of this?

What's up bro,

From a young age i realized that my core was black. i can only see the value in anyone for however willing they are to meet my needs. Since i'm unable to care on a deeper level i had to learn/watch people to learn how to seem caring.

In order to get my needs met, I strove to learn what women like cue hollywood movies, and the whole beta works. That failed and i wondered why she wouldn't want someone that emulated all of the glorified beta qualities. Upon further inspection i learned of the red pill.

The red pill is correct in a sense, but they advocate a morally correct approach meaning that they are unwilling to actively manipulate anyone or if they do use manipulation then it's on a shallow level. That's a weakness when you start fooling around with high quality women that have no such qualms. With red pill knowledge, I could bag almost any woman i set my mind to, but red pill knowledge isn't enough. i couldn't figure out how to make them fall hopelessly in love to the point of killing someone if i asked. Upon further inspection i learned of economics and personality disorders.

I'm hopelessly deprived. I'm unable to love on a deeper lever. This makes it really easy for her to fall in love with me due to the fact that i emulate the qualities of someone she can love with abandon.


The best thing i can say is to kill off any emotions and learn how to consciously fake them until faking it becomes a reflex that replaces the real thing.


TLDR: fake it till you make it

 

[old_skoolr]

This could be simplified so easily.

1. Strong d1ck game

2. Ability to walk away.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

What's up bro,

From a young age i realized that my core was black. i can only see the value in anyone for however willing they are to meet my needs. Since i'm unable to care on a deeper level i had to learn/watch people to learn how to seem caring.

In order to get my needs met, I strove to learn what women like cue hollywood movies, and the whole beta works. That failed and i wondered why she wouldn't want someone that emulated all of the glorified beta qualities. Upon further inspection i learned of the red pill.

The red pill is correct in a sense, but they advocate a morally correct approach meaning that they are unwilling to actively manipulate anyone or if they do use manipulation then it's on a shallow level. That's a weakness when you start fooling around with high quality women that have no such qualms. With red pill knowledge, I could bag almost any woman i set my mind to, but red pill knowledge isn't enough. i couldn't figure out how to make them fall hopelessly in love to the point of killing someone if i asked. Upon further inspection i learned of economics and personality disorders.

I'm hopelessly deprived. I'm unable to love on a deeper lever. This makes it really easy for her to fall in love with me due to the fact that i emulate the qualities of someone she can love with abandon.


The best thing i can say is to kill off any emotions and learn how to consciously fake them until faking it becomes a reflex that replaces the real thing.


TLDR: fake it till you make it

I see what you mean, I've been able to stop feeling some emotions for a bit now. Some you need though, like happiness and even anger every once in a while. Everything else though isn't really needed to be honest.

Wouldn't it also be good to be able to actually have emotions sometimes though? When you can actually empathize with others sometimes, you know exactly how to respond to them to induce a response. I'm not saying to be emotional, thats terrible. But I believe it would be more beneficial to be able to transition from one state (normal with emotions, not overly so, but only the emotions you want to feel) into the next (no emotions, only rationale) at will and vice versa.

 

[beforeimgone]

I see what you mean, I've been able to stop feeling some emotions for a bit now. Some you need though, like happiness and even anger every once in a while. Everything else though isn't really needed to be honest.

Wouldn't it also be good to be able to actually have emotions sometimes though? When you can actually empathize with others sometimes, you know exactly how to respond to them to induce a response. I'm not saying to be emotional, thats terrible. But I believe it would be more beneficial to be able to transition from one state (normal with emotions, not overly so, but only the emotions you want to feel) into the next (no emotions, only rationale) at will and vice versa.

I'm not saying that it's best to kill them off completely forever. That would probably be hella boring. What i mean is to like get so good at faking it that eventually when you turn the emotions back on you are able to think with a stunning clarity in any emotional state. Like being able to look outside of your own emotions while you are emoting, but also being able to dive into them in order to exacerbate them if need be(anger/haapiness).

To do this, you need to kill them completely for a while though. When you turn them back on, you won't be the same. You will be better/more in control

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

I'm not saying that it's best to kill them off completely forever. That would probably be hella boring. What i mean is to like get so good at faking it that eventually when you turn the emotions back on you are able to think with a stunning clarity in any emotional state. Like being able to look outside of your own emotions while you are emoting, but also being able to look into them if you want in order to exacerbate them.

To do this, you need to kill them completely for a while though. When you turn them back on, you won't be the same. You will be better/more in control

Alright i gotcha. Thanks for the advice by the way. It seems very useful.

One more annoying question I wonder now though, what brought you to post advice in this website? I can't see any materialistic gains in helping us out.

 

[beforeimgone]

Alright i gotcha. Thanks for the advice by the way. It seems very useful.

You're welcome and it's not annoying, bro it takes a certain type of person to be curious. Curious people eventually become powerful.


There is only one materialistic gain. Desdinova said that he would place my post in the hall of fame if it's the type of knowledge that would help everyone out so i posted something that i could see a lot of guys weren't aware of. It's geared towards the average red piller which is mostly what i see on this site.

 

[Atom Smasher]

A fascinating thread. Most of you know I'm a strong proponent of severe discipline and boundary enforcement, although the OP does take it to a dangerous level for the average American woman. Women today are bombarded by the media with messages about "abuse", and they're trained to interpret discipline as abuse.

That being said, it is definitely true that what one man can get away with, another can't. It all depends on a man's core intent and approach to life, and how congruent he is. A congruent man can get away with the most astonishing things. My friends look at me in amazement when I discipline my woman, and this is only because they can't even conceive of doing that themselves because of the invisible ropes (societal expectations) that bind them.

My takeaway is that a man can do amazing things when he continually grows more congruent, and in so doing can become a master at the art of influence. It appears to me that the OP is so congruent and "sold out" to his own life paradigm in his dealings with his wife that she willingly accepts it. It's a bit of a dangerous game for the novice, though, as he is not well-calibrated and any doubt or hesitation will be detected by the woman and eventually used against him.

The OP has apparently learned, on a deep level, the concept of "assumed authority", a critically important aspect of what we call "game". There are some good lessons to be learned here but I would advise caution when it comes to physical punishment, not on moral grounds (morally, I absolutely think a woman needs to be physically disciplined on occasion), but rather legally.

If you can pull it off, great. I do think only a small minority of men can pull it off, to the OP's level. The bottom line though is that disciplining a woman with a heavy hand is absolutely necessary, but it must be offset with positive emotions and experiences for her. Never in history has it been so difficult for men to find that balance because of the relentless societal demonization of men.

 

[beforeimgone]

A fascinating thread. Most of you know I'm a strong proponent of severe discipline and boundary enforcement, although the OP does take it to a dangerous level for the average American woman. Women today are bombarded by the media with messages about "abuse", and they're trained to interpret discipline as abuse.

That being said, it is definitely true that what one man can get away with, another can't. It all depends on a man's core intent and approach to life, and how congruent he is. A congruent man can get away with the most astonishing things. My friends look at me in amazement when I discipline my woman, and this is only because they can't even conceive of doing that themselves because of the invisible ropes (societal expectations) that bind them.

My takeaway is that a man can do amazing things when he continually grows more congruent, and in so doing can become a master at the art of influence. It appears to me that the OP is so congruent and "sold out" to his own life paradigm in his dealings with his wife that she willingly accepts it. It's a bit of a dangerous game for the novice, though, as he is not well-calibrated and any doubt or hesitation will be detected by the woman and eventually used against him.

The OP has apparently learned, on a deep level, the concept of "assumed authority", a critically important aspect of what we call "game". There are some good lessons to be learned here but I would advise caution when it comes to physical punishment, not on moral grounds (morally, I absolutely think a woman needs to be physically disciplined on occasion), but rather legally.

If you can pull it off, great. I do think only a small minority of men can pull it off, to the OP's level. The bottom line though is that disciplining a woman with a heavy hand is absolutely necessary, but it must be offset with positive emotions and experiences for her. Never in history has it been so difficult for men to find that balance because of the relentless societal demonization of men.

That was ridiculously well-articulated

 

[Reykhel]

Fast forward to now, and my wife does whatever I say when I say.

So are you still married? One has the impression that something went wrong giving that you're writing field reports on
approaches that your making....

If the marriage went to ****e it could be interesting to up date the thread and analyze what didn't go to plan with your initial OP

 

[beforeimgone]

So are you still married? One has the impression that something went wrong giving that you're writing field reports on
approaches that your making....

If the marriage went to ****e it could be interesting to up date the thread and analyze what didn't go to plan with your initial OP

Sure, i'll give an update on this situation.


This wasn't an official marriage. If anything, you could consider it a common law marriage because I called them my 'wife,' but I've always been recognized as 'single' in regards to legal things ie taxes.


Back then, I noticed a lot of guys on here talking about love and shvt so I figured that if i wrote about it id get in the book of whatever its called. I focused on talking about only one of them because most guys posting on this forum were weak. I figured that they'd be able to digest it better if i bluepilled it up for them. Since then, the overall strength has increased some, but not by much at all.


Back then I was interested in extending the honeymoon phase forever. I wanted to turn the logical brain off and make them live by their hamster around me. The 'love' experiment included two of my best plates and myself. I invited them to live with me to see if my theory was accurate. Once they moved in, I called them my 'wife.' For a while, everything was cool, but then one of my 'wives' started to get annoying to the point where I didn't want to tolerate her personality anymore. I kicked her out. I let the other stay for a month or so longer and kicked her out too. I didn't want to have just one 'wife' living with me.


The plate I kicked out is still in my orbit, but the one that I allowed to stay for an additional month keeps sporadic contact. She lives in a different state and flies out to see me every so often.


I'm pretty sure I could've kept that situation up forever, but them living with me cut into more important things - cold approaching and one night stands. My motherfvcking bread and butter


Thanks for bringing this back from the dead. I forgot I even wrote it. Reading it again makes me realize certain things - im fvcking awesome

 

[ubercat]

Interesting. Probably most of the experienced guys here exhibit dominance in the bedroom. Rolling her over hair pulling spanking pushing her head down etc. Effectively you seemed to be setting up a dom sub dynamic in the rest of the relationship. I like Marmels move of pulling their arms over their head when your getting ASD. I used to run a bit of bad boy game to give my standard Comfort game an edge. A classic move was to push them into a door that's open a bit it slams shut with your combined body weight takes all the impact so nobody gets hurt but sounds loud and frightening. Of course that's when you go for the kiss. I loved it when I discovered I was I was staying near a school that had a chain link fence. Same thing push them into that it gives and makes a great tinkling sound everywhere. Sounds like chains clanking so it's a bit bsdm which is great. Now disclaimer that was years ago and the feminazis were not so bad so if you are going to experiment for God's sake do it where there are no Witnesses.

And I am in no way condoning actual violence against women this is all play acting.