all girls are slvts

[jurry]

Lol dont start frothing at the mouth now danger.. Itll be ok.

What we ARE saying (you may want to actually read instead of reacting) and that you agree with, is in reality you generally dont know a girls partner count and all about her past. You work with what you know and make a decision based off that. What someone else considers a "slut" may well be different from yours, so the question of whether you should commit to a slut is basically useless.

Your absolute slut theorem is necessitated by the fact that you and pair both believe there is some point of no return in which a girl will have gone over some magical line of sluthood from which she cannot come back, rendering all future relationships corrupt.

This is a childs view of the world sadly, but Id love to hear the specifics for how one determines whether a woman has reached this point. All the study tells us is that as a person has been in more relationships their likelihood of cheating goes up. Well gees, you're telling me a couple of high school sweethearts whove never slept with anyone else are less likely to have cheated than a single 30 year old who had been in 10 relationships? Someone give them a damn prize!

The point about age was not about my options danger, stop being a little girl and trying to give me subtle insults. You know what my point was, so respond to it. Would you be more concerned by a 30 year old virgin or a 30 year old who has slept with 10 men?

 

[jurry]

You - a ho cannot become a housewife

Danger - once a girl is a slut, she cannot become a non slut

How is that anything but absolute?

 

[Boxer00]

How can you argue something you're not even certain of? What is your definition of a slut? How many men does a woman need to fvck to be a slut?

Yours and Boxer's argument continues to be that if you can't know for sure she is a slut, you should be ok with committing to a slut.

I don't understand your weird argument. If you don't know, how can she be a slut? You were ok committing to your woman not knowing if she is a slut. Is that what angers you?

Is it not reasonable to say that boxer thinks we should consider them for committed relationships then?

LOL. Dude, you committed to a woman not knowing if she is a slut. What's your deal?

Boxer,

I am not certain of her number but I am supremely confident it is not high.

Why do you argue, when you only can surmise that she may not be one? If you can't know for sure if she is a slut, you were ok with committing to a slut in your own argument.

I like her for who she is AND she has triggered 0 slut-tells.

I said you like her for who she is, but you don't know for sure.

I am never getting married but if I found out she was a slut then yes I would dump her.

But you would already have been committed to a slut. Don't you see the error in your argument?

Not knowing if a girl is a slut is a TERRIBLE reason to say it is then ok to commit to a known slut.

That's what you did, so why is it so terrible? You aren't certain about your own gf. If you don't know, how can you commit to a known slut? That doesn't make any sense dude.

Your argument suggests to me that you think men should not care if they are committed to a slut, which prompts my question....which you still avoid.

What defines a slut? How many men does a girl need to fvck to be a slut? I never said men shouldn't care. When they aren't certain like you, does it bother you?

I will word it differently for you.....Why is it so important to you that men should be committing to sluts?

I never said it was. You very well could be committed to a slut. Why are you making a big deal out of something you're not certain of?

 

[TheGambino]

So according to you, are all Muslims terrorists?

That's the biggest bullsh1t I ever hear'd, not even 0,00000000000000001% of all muslims are active as terrorists. If you put it that way, the Israeli government, George W. Bush, Vladimir Putin and Tony Blair are terrorists aswel. and yes all girls CAN turn into sluts for the right type of male

 

[jurry]

Dangers gettin real hot now! I cant get younger girls! Im a "her"! Im a leftie!

Soon the pics of the car and house will be coming out again

 

[Boxer00]

What are you trying to argue? You're saying not to commit to a slut, but you don't know for sure if she is a slut.

You're going to dump her if you find out she is a slut, after you already committed to her? Don't you see how your argument is not making sense after you already committed to a slut?

What is a slut? Define it with your own definition.

I'm not angry, you are the one raging about men not committing to sluts. Why is that important to you? You still refuse to answer that question.

How am I raging when I'm only asking you to clarify your weird stance? LOL.

You're the one who is upset over it. Are you dense? I never said it is was important. What is the definition of a slut to you? Why won't you answer that?

As I cited above, you can certainly identify sluts, just not ALL sluts.

And some you can't just like I said. Why do you still wanna argue on that?

I am supremely confident my gf is not a slut, that is why I committed to her. *Could* she have been a slut? Sure, but it is a very, very low probability and that is NO excuse for committing to known sluts.

You could be already committed to a slut when you're not certain. I never said that. You can't commit to a known slut when it isn't known. Sluts upset you since you keep talking about it.

I am not sure why this is so difficult to understand, or that the study is so difficult for you, other than your ideology that men should knowingly commit to sluts.

Dude, you're lying man. I never said men should knowingly commit to sluts. Every guy has his own definition of a slut. You refuse to answer what you feel a slut is.

As I said before, ultimately You and Jurry are making the argument that if you can't know for certainty that a girl is a slut, then we should be ok with committing to known sluts.

You already committed to one when you're not certain. If you don't know she is a slut, then she is not a known slut is she? Why are you twisting this all around?

I say that no, men should not commit to sluts, the study shows exactly why, and that if you are very confident the girl is not a slut, I do not see a problem with committing to her. It is all about probabilities son.

Being confident is not the same as knowing for sure is it? She still could be a slut and you committed to her. How can you argue your weird stance?

So again, I ask, why is it important to you that men commit to sluts?

LOL. I never said it was dude. When you're not certain like yourself, you already committed to one. What is a slut to you?

 

[JohnChops]

You can tell which people are the ones who get laid and which people are the ones who smear their self indulging bullsh1t around on an internet forum.

 

[jurry]

LMFAO.

"I cant define what a slut is to you, I dont know how many sexual partners my girlfriend has, but shes definitely not a slut and you guys are both obviously dating sluts".

What an impossible douche.

 

[jurry]

Because I am trying to point out the subjectivity of the word "slut". You have to admit that the definition "considerably more than one sexual partner" leaves a great deal of ambiguity.

The problem with this kind of label - and I understand the idea of trying to filter out the wrong kind of women - is that it doesnt really have any value in practice. A girl may look like shes trashy and cheap and this would be unattractive, so there you go decision made.

Beyond this, assuming you find the girl attractive, what more info are you going to go on? A girl generally is slutty/promiscuous for the reasons bingo player mentioned a page or two back. These are entirely situational.

Say she has some beta provider bf or husband and loses attraction and sleeps with the alpha at work. Does this cross some magical barrier of sluttiness and now she can never be monogamous? No, it means the beta provider got what was coming to him anyways and she wants to find a real man to be with.

The problem as bingo says are the betas allowing this to happen in the first place, not the so called "sluts". Attraction is attraction, cant change that. If you read the original post, it is quite clear that it is coming from the point of view of a whiny victim beta who has a problem with all the sex women are having (apparently not with him), instead of the abundant alpha enjoying all these women.

 

[jurry]

The risk to the LTR IS cheating, is it not?

Looking at the graph there from the heartiste link, you will see that a virgin bride has 80% stable marriage rate (as if remaining married implies that one is happily married). Going to one prior partner it drops to 50%. From there its a steady drop off a cliff down to the 20 and 30 percent range.

How many 20-30 year olds have you met with one or zero partner count? Not to mention the likely issues a 20 something virgin girl (presumably attractive) mudt have? Combine this with the fact that you generally do not even know their partner count to begin with (as is the case with you and the majority of women ive dated), the takeaway from this study is that almost no one should marry.

Which is why myself and bingo point to the much larger issue. Become a man of value, and the issue becomes irrelevant. You wont need a registry of women listed by their prior sexual partner count, you will judge them by their actions and choose the one that fits what youre looking for best, if you're interested in "choosing" one to begin with.

 

[jurry]

Because a slut is not an identity, it is a subjective judgment about a girl based off of specific actions. A certain type of guy who has been with many women may be more attracted to and match better with a girl who also has a lot of experience, whereas two high school sweethearts who have only been with each other may match well also.

All the study tells us is that if she has more than a couple prior partners the odds of it working out are very low. Ok great, well most guys dont want a virgin, so we're all fvcked? No, we simply go with what makes sense to us and what each of us is attracted to. Why would men date around and see what type of girl is best for them but if a girl does it she is somehow tainted?

You're trying to make it into some golden rule of relationships, where if I date 2 girls and pick the one with 10 prior partners instead of the one with 4 im guaranteed to have worse odds of a successful relationship. Attraction and a successful relationship isnt that simple, it isnt a bunch of stocks on a spreadsheet with p/e ratios next to them. Everyone relates and connects differently with each other.

 

[Boxer00]

I'm wasting my time with this. You're refusing to define your own definition of a slut. You're not sure how many men your gf fvcked, but assume she isn't a wh0re arguing your weird stance on not committing to sluts. You're a weird dude arguing something you're not certain about.

Sluts, we can all agree, have way more than 1 partner, and therefore should never be committed to.

Why can't you give a specific definition? How many is way more? Every woman is going to have more than 1 partner unless she is a virgin. If a woman had 3-4 boyfriends would you say is she a slut?

Why is this so hard to understand? Would we not do the same for the following? Why are these "weird stances"? These are everyday normal stances for filtering out potential LTR's

You're not sure if your gf is a slut and you committed to her. You're saying men should not to commit to sluts when you already did. LOL. That is a weird stance to have.

You're calling girls sluts for what is normal behavior today. A girl can have 4 boyfriends and you're calling her a slut for that?

You don't need known partner counts for this, you only need to have a level of certainty based upon the slut tells.

Do you know anything about women? Some girls won't have any slut tells since they only have sex in committed relationships. What if a girl had 5 boyfriends with no slut tells? You're committed to a woman who is a slut with your weird stance. I believe that is your case with your gf.

Filter out suspected sluts.
Filter out suspected gold diggers.
Filter out suspected murderers..

You're making a guess call not knowing for sure. You committed to a woman not knowing for sure. Why didn't you filter out her?

"It's hard to find a non-slut, so men should just look for what they think is quality"
Combined with the extremist assumption that anyone pushing against committing to sluts is defining sluts as not being a virgin.

So yes, I believe it is reasonable to assume you want men to commit to h0rs, so long as you are "picky about what she looks like".

If I had to make a wager, I would bet you are with an attractive h0r and are trying to rationalize your being with her which in turn means attacking other men who would not commit to h0rs.

The question in, why were you not able to find an attractive woman who is not a h0r?.

This slut thing really upsets you. What is your definition a slut? Why won't you give one? How can you call a girl a slut for what is the normal behavior of girls today? You very well could be committed to a wh0re. I would bet you are with a woman around your age. She most likely had 3 or 4 men before you. Is she a slut with your weird stance?

 

[No.Danny]

It's mind blowing how guys with such happy relationships spend sooooo much time on this board discussing such meaningless topics...:crazy:

 

[EveryPostHere]

All women suck. We are the gods.

 

[Boxer00]

I already answered this, but you chose to ignore it....I will try again but substituting murdered for slut.

Filter out known murderers so that I do not commit to them
Filter out suspected murderers so that I do not commit to them
I cannot PROVE the rest did not murder someone, but it is likely they did not, so they are still in contention.

This is appears to be common sense for choosing a relationship with a woman who is not a murderer, is that weird? If not, why is it weird by applying the same logic to sluts?

The rest of your post is just whining about me not expanding the topic to me personally. I think you should focus on the discussion as opposed to trying to make it about me personally. Trying to expand the argument or make it about the person is just the tactics of the person with the losing position.

No, you didn't answer anything specific except the same answers. Last time I'm going to ask you before I leave this thread. What is your definition of a slut?

You're not sure how many men your gf fvcked and you presume she isn't a slut. She very well could be a slut and you committed to her. That negates your argument of men should not commit to a slut when you already did. How are you filtering out a slut when you already committed to one? Is a woman who had 3-4 boyfriends before you a slut?

HAHA whining.....I asked you questions that you refuse to answer. Why won't you clarify your own definition of a slut? You're saying men should not commit to sluts. How do we know your definition of a slut when you won't tell us? You're making it personally about yourself and won't tell us your position on sluts. That is pretty weird dude like you're hiding something.

 

[BrainDamage92]

Dude, all women want the semen of every male in the world in their vagina at the same time. So that the best wins. The vagina is the strongest material known to man kind and a girl can have 20 guys a day and still want more. While us get depleted and exhausted from too much sex.

This **** was kept in check by marriage in the old days. The social stigma of cheaters was big. Till death do us part was really till death do us part. People had fear of God you see.

Then some smartass came up with the idea that men naturally need to spread their seed everywhere, which is complete BS, and its the other way around. It turned men into *****s, and like, most men sleep with taken women when given the chance without batting an eye, when the right thing to do is tell her shes a ho and tell her man shes a ho when she asks for the D, so then when they settle they wander why their wife is a ho. Lol. Karma is a ***** aint it.

Then some smartass came up with sexual revolution, which basically destroyed the family unit and removed stigma from cheaters couse peeps are more easily controlled when family moral is low. Like a woman cheating couse "She wasnt happy" sounds like a sound argument nowaydas and her GFs and male GFs will support that. Like she gets SYMPATHY FOR IT. ****ing faggot world we live in. ****ing ****...

Point is, never get married. And always expect betrayal, always. Even if youre Brad Pitt, at some point, at some time, in some place, another faggot will **** your woman - so dont dwell on it much.

If I was in charge Id make a law pregnancy=marriage, no exceptions - disrespect marriage - death by public decapitation. Lets see who will have the balls to **** around then. ****ing faggots.

 

[guru1000]

A woman's notch count is inversely commensurate with her "quality" as a woman.

Gentlemen, notwithstanding the above, if you elect to share your time with a low quality contender, accept responsibility when, not if, you get burned, as you were briefed but nevertheless chose to engage.

 

[jurry]

Comments in bold

A slut is a type of woman. There is a definition and even measurements of it's impact upon LTR's. The "not an identify" is really just a statement made by those who would defend or justify those actions.

In short, it absolutely IS an identity, and the definition says so.

No, it isnt. Your definition is considerably more than one sexual partner, the dictionary definition you gave is sexually promiscuous. These are about as vague and subjective as a definition can get



Excellent, we have finally established that women with more partners (especially sluts) are very poor prospects for LTR's. So we agree!

The study tells us that anyone with more than one or two prior partners is a poor prospect, the slut part is not defined.

Now you are onto finding a solution. Each man has a different solution, and I would argue strongly that you are wrong and most guys DO want a virgin, unless that was a typo on your part? I mean honestly, how many men say "God I want to marry a girl who has had some c0cks in her". There should doesn't seem to be a promise of 72 h0rs for the muslim suicide bombers. In fact, non-virgin brides are assigned very little value in the sexual marketplace of other cultures where the families arrange marriages.
only someone with very little experience dating women would make comments like this. First of all, even FINDING a virgin in her twenties or beyond is rare. Of those, almost all are going to be a) hideous, b) total manhating lesbo cvnt, or c) bat**** crazy clinger. No, most men do not want to date virgins. The only time this would happen is high school maaybe early college.

But at least we agree that sluts are a poor choice for LTR's.

You cannot define sluts so we have no way of even reaching that conclusion

Congratulations, you have reached stage 2 of the "slut defense". The "double standard". Men and women are attracted to different things and the impact on them is quite different.

Sure enough, there is another study on this subject.

From the study....

Theres not a chance im responding to another study and more twisted BS when you cant even respond intelligently to the first, good try though.

Just admit what this is all about. It is about you trying to shît on people on the internet and put yourself above them, even though you know nothing about them, and you cant even define the terms you're discussing, nor do you even know the amount of men your own girlfriend has been with.

Grow up bro, pretty sad that you need this kind of thing to feel good about yourself.

 

[jurry]

Yes, a slut is a type of women, it is an identity and she is defiend by it.....I have even linked the definitions to show that fact. My definition is not required to make your own conclusions. Use the study and the dictionary definition to decide what is right for you.

So its a type and an identity, yet the definitions are completely vague and i should "decide what is right for me". Do i need to define the word subjective for you?

My definition is still not required. You now have measurable risks from which to base your conclusion. I will not expand the discussion into what every person defines as slut as that will go the same way as the "alpha versus beta", "looks batter" or "How hot is this HB" discussions go. I twill only serve to subvert the point of the study and the risks of committing to women with increased notch counts.

Or, it will finally get you to realize that "sluttiness" is subjective, and that the study results are not helpful at all. Anything more than 2 or 3 prior partners drops the success rate to 30% or below. You view women as investments, would you invest in something with a 30% chance of profitability?
You and Boxer (both supporters of committing to sluts) will just have to deal with the hard measurements of the study and the dictionary definition of slut. In fact, all you really need is the study to help you determine what level of risk to take.

Your are conflating what men want with what is available, and then changing "commit" to "date" to shift the argument. I promise you, most men would prefer a virgin for marriage or commitment.

Now, what is attainable is an ENTIRELY DIFFERENT DISCUSSION.
We are living in reality are we not? Or is this your fantasyland?


I do not have to define it. The study with the risks is all that matters. Use your own definition for the risks you want to take. I know you and Boxer desperately want to shift the discussion to me personally, but that makes no sense whatsoever as it is the study and committing to high risk women which is the discussion, not my own choices or definitions.

Because your personal situation describes EXACTLY why the study is worthless. Most people will not know how many prior partners their girlfriend has. And even if they did, EVERY relationship is a leap of faith, you cannot determine success by such simple measures. If you get along well with someone and find them attractive, then thats pretty much what you go with.


Of course you won't, for three reasons you won't even address the first one properly since....

• You kept referring it to cheating instead of the reality that it is about the success of LTR's.
• You keep trying to make it about me personally, which has no relevance to the study or discussion thereof.
• It continues to destroy your "commit to a slut" mentality. We now have two studies showing this, but of course you just want to keep "making it about me".

No its just the same reason i mentioned before, that i have no interest in debating a whole new study when you cant even acknowledge the uselessness of the first. Insanity is another definition you may want to review

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[PlayerSupremo]

All girls are not sluts. Was your mother a slut? If you have a sister is she a slut? Was the nun at your church a slut?

Grow up and quit being a weak man whining about women. If they don't like who you are I suggest you become someone better.

Your post is an example of who you are right now.