Alcohol and why it Kills your game

[perseverance]

In the UK, drinking is a huge social activity, so when you go into bars and clubs most of the people there will be drunk, hence why I always see girls squatting behind cars urinating or leaning over a wall vomiting everywhere.

When I go out to bars, pubs or clubs, I go with mates to meet up and have a good time, I don't go to score with women because a vast majority of women in these places are low quality women. You then have c*ckblocks, b*tchshields and the so called Alpha Males who think they're as hard as nails looking to score women and will try and pick fights to display their masculinity. I can't be bothered with all of that.

I'd rather just sit back with a White Russian while enjoying the music or I'll bust some McLovin style dance moves on the dance floor. I'll leave the low quality women in clubs to the low quality men who frequent clubs looking for some fresh meat.

 

[handle]

I guess this just comes down to a fundamental difference: I wouldn't set foot in a place just to get numbers and leave. I go to places I actually enjoy because they have a good dj, or live music, or good microbrew. There also tend to be more interesting girls at such venues. Stepping in, grabbing numbers, and moving to the next sounds hollow and boring. The problem I have with this topic is that you assume we're all a bunch of chumps who want to pay 5 bucks for a budweiser to look cool, while listening to ****ty top 40 music, imagining that if we get drunk enough we can grind with some girl singing along to katy perry... Which is quite far from the truth. It's condescending and presumptuous.

Alcohol (in moderate amounts) isn't killing anybody's game. It's being a chump that kills people's game. That's all you're really saying.

 

[evansblue]

What I'm saying is it's a lot more efficient to get a couple of numbers and bounce. I'm not calling or even insinuating that anyone's a chump. I don't think you understand the gist of my post. I'm talking about compartmentalized thinking. I like to have fun with my friends, grab some drinks, etc. and I set aside days for that. The difference is when I go out to get woman, I'm by myself and not in "hanging out with friends" mode. I have a very clear cut agenda and move very quickly. I'm guess I'm more of a hustler than a PUA.

 

[Sh0t]

Solution to a non-existent problem.

Learn how to game while drunk. Same way you learned how to drive while drunk.

And nah, evans that's not a hustler. You are defining exactly what pick-up artistry is. Going out(often alone), with the specific goal of meeting women. Nothing to do with hustling my dude.

 

[evansblue]

Actually "pick-up artistry" is peacocking, saying weird lines, using magic and whatever other goofy stuff those people do. It's really a stale term and doesn't apply to my method.

 

[Sh0t]

Nah. The peacocking and all that came later and from specific camps.

Pick-up artists specialize in picking up women from cold approaching. As opposed to meeting women through social groups, and all those other 'warm' situations.

The defining characteristic of a pick-up artist is the ability to cold approach strangers and possibly seduce them. Lacking that skill, a man might be a mack, player, womanizer, whatever. But not a pick-up artist.

Doesn't matter how weird you do it, or if you are just simple and smooth. The main ingredient is approaching strangers. That's what pick-up is.

I don't dress weird, use magic, or any of that. But I do cold approach strangers. I consider myself a pick-up artist and have for many years. There are various METHODS of doing it, but it's the "meeting strangers" that is key. Some men are great with women, but can't meet them cold.

Also, in most cases, getting a batch of numbers and leaving is going to cause tons of flakes for MOST men(not saying you). Without the time investment, the girls are just going to ignore that call/text. Many guys are great at getting numbers, but then nothing comes from them. Especially in male-gender skewed locations like here in Socal.

 

[MartyMcFly]

FYI in a bar, club, or party setting, If you have a drink in your hand you are perceived as socially acceptable and not awkward. Besides, who doesn't like to go out, get hammered and maybe go home with some girl you just met? I'm not saying that's my first intention when I go drinking but if it happens it happens.

 

[evansblue]

Nah. The peacocking and all that came later and from specific camps.

Pick-up artists specialize in picking up women from cold approaching. As opposed to meeting women through social groups, and all those other 'warm' situations.

The defining characteristic of a pick-up artist is the ability to cold approach strangers and possibly seduce them. Lacking that skill, a man might be a mack, player, womanizer, whatever. But not a pick-up artist.

Doesn't matter how weird you do it, or if you are just simple and smooth. The main ingredient is approaching strangers. That's what pick-up is.

I don't dress weird, use magic, or any of that. But I do cold approach strangers. I consider myself a pick-up artist and have for many years. There are various METHODS of doing it, but it's the "meeting strangers" that is key. Some men are great with women, but can't meet them cold.

Also, in most cases, getting a batch of numbers and leaving is going to cause tons of flakes for MOST men(not saying you). Without the time investment, the girls are just going to ignore that call/text. Many guys are great at getting numbers, but then nothing comes from them. Especially in male-gender skewed locations like here in Socal.

If I cold approach 20 girls, 9 or 10 will usually respond to my text. 3 or 4 will meet up with me, and I'll have sex with 1 or 2.

Keep in mind I try to sleep with them the first time I meet them. I know going in I'm going to get flakes. I have enough numbers where it doesn't matter. The ones I don't meet up with want to go to dinner or refuse to come to my place. I call that a stalemate and will either delete their numbers, or save them and try again a few days later.

I think part of the reason I'm successful is because I'm extremely efficient. Day Game I do 30-40 seconds an approach. I text 2 days later and invite them over to shag. Spending 5 or 10 minutes on a cold approach to me comes off as creepy, at least during the day. It shows too much interest. I work my bar game a bit different, but the general principal is the same: move quickly.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Martinis are like titties.

One is not enough, but three is too many.