Aghani Men Like Young Boys

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Afghanistan's dirty little secret
Joel Brinkley
Sunday, August 29, 2010
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cg...INF21F2Q9H.DTL

Western forces fighting in southern Afghanistan had a problem. Too often, soldiers on patrol passed an older man walking hand-in-hand with a pretty young boy. Their behavior suggested he was not the boy's father. Then, British soldiers found that young Afghan men were actually trying to "touch and fondle them," military investigator AnnaMaria Cardinalli told me. "The soldiers didn't understand."

All of this was so disconcerting that the Defense Department hired Cardinalli, a social scientist, to examine this mystery. Her report, "Pashtun Sexuality," startled not even one Afghan. But Western forces were shocked - and repulsed.

For centuries, Afghan men have taken boys, roughly 9 to 15 years old, as lovers. Some research suggests that half the Pashtun tribal members in Kandahar and other southern towns are bacha baz, the term for an older man with a boy lover. Literally it means "boy player." The men like to boast about it.

"Having a boy has become a custom for us," Enayatullah, a 42-year-old in Baghlan province, told a Reuters reporter. "Whoever wants to show off should have a boy."

Baghlan province is in the northeast, but Afghans say pedophilia is most prevalent among Pashtun men in the south. The Pashtun are Afghanistan's most important tribe. For centuries, the nation's leaders have been Pashtun.

President Hamid Karzai is Pashtun, from a village near Kandahar, and he has six brothers. So the natural question arises: Has anyone in the Karzai family been bacha baz? Two Afghans with close connections to the Karzai family told me they know that at least one family member and perhaps two were bacha baz. Afraid of retribution, both declined to be identified and would not be more specific for publication.

As for Karzai, an American who worked in and around his palace in an official capacity for many months told me that homosexual behavior "was rampant" among "soldiers and guys on the security detail. They talked about boys all the time."

He added, "I didn't see Karzai with anyone. He was in his palace most of the time." He, too, declined to be identified.

In Kandahar, population about 500,000, and other towns, dance parties are a popular, often weekly, pastime. Young boys dress up as girls, wearing makeup and bells on their feet, and dance for a dozen or more leering middle-aged men who throw money at them and then take them home. A recent State Department report called "dancing boys" a "widespread, culturally sanctioned form of male rape."

So, why are American and NATO forces fighting and dying to defend tens of thousands of proud pedophiles, certainly more per capita than any other place on Earth? And how did Afghanistan become the pedophilia capital of Asia?

Sociologists and anthropologists say the problem results from perverse interpretation of Islamic law. Women are simply unapproachable. Afghan men cannot talk to an unrelated woman until after proposing marriage. Before then, they can't even look at a woman, except perhaps her feet. Otherwise she is covered, head to ankle.

"How can you fall in love if you can't see her face," 29-year-old Mohammed Daud told reporters. "We can see the boys, so we can tell which are beautiful." (OH HERE WE GO!!! )

Even after marriage, many men keep their boys, suggesting a loveless life at home. A favored Afghan expression goes: "Women are for children, boys are for pleasure." Fundamentalist imams, exaggerating a biblical passage on menstruation, teach that women are "unclean" and therefore distasteful. One married man even asked Cardinalli's team "how his wife could become pregnant," her report said. When that was explained, he "reacted with disgust" and asked, "How could one feel desire to be with a woman, who God has made unclean?"

That helps explain why women are hidden away - and stoned to death if they are perceived to have misbehaved. Islamic law also forbids homosexuality. But the pedophiles explain that away. It's not homosexuality, they aver, because they aren't in love with their boys.

Addressing the loathsome mistreatment of Afghan women remains a primary goal for coalition governments, as it should be.

But what about the boys, thousands upon thousands of little boys who are victims of serial rape over many years, destroying their lives - and Afghan society.

"There's no issue more horrifying and more deserving of our attention than this," Cardinalli said. "I'm continually haunted by what I saw."

As one boy, in tow of a man he called "my lord," told the Reuters reporter: "Once I grow up, I will be an owner, and I will have my own boys."
 

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So, we have gays for allies do we? So much for teaching the ANA to regain control over a civilised Afghanistan. Never going to happen, those guys don't even know how to drive a vehicle, usless nonces.
 

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Article is clearly a joke. Sick and twisted propoganda.

Author is as malicious as the peadophiles he found in afghanistan.

Both should go suck an underage **** (literally!).
 

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Quiksilver said:
Sounds like propaganda to me ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HW7aGiuKZaU&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6T6VEwampxo&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmtt1etvBJY&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3AvnWDYMpA&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pd6Qdzt75Cs&feature=player_embedded

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/dancingboys/

The site where I originally got this link some dude the same thing and other people supplied the link. Also PBS and sfgate which is the website to the San Francisco Chronicle, two media outlets that aren't actually know for being paragons of conservative thought.

Here's what I and other posted from the BMV site said.

It's a simple manner of cause and effect.

I mean, in a nation of strict Shariah law that dictates that a woman can't even walk outside of a house without being accompanied by a related male and just about every facility is accomodated to a specific gender, what the f*ck you think is going to happen? There are extreme measures taken against not only fornication but TALKING between unrelated men and women. It shouldn't take too much brainpower to guess that homosexuality is going to be prevalent if it's so hard for men and women to interact. Humans are sexual beings. If they can't express their sexuality through healthy outlets, they'll do so in aberrant ones.

Although I'm on the verge of misogyny myself, the attitude Islam has between sex and relationships is self-destructive and can't sustain itself forever. Stoning women for adultery is a GREAT thing. Lashing women (and men) for simply speaking to each other is downright batsh*t crazy.
Rex said:

Just to piggyback on this for a minute. I don't think it's a coincidence that most of these jihadists come from these strict conservative Shi'ra law countries where sexuality is repressed and there's segregation according to gender. From what I understand most of those blow up jihadists come places like Saudia Arabia, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran, and Yemen. You don't hear about too many U.A.E., Jordanian, Turkish, or Indonesians trying to jihad. Though I'm sure there's cats that are down for the movement. Where the governments are less restrictive and the sexes are able to co-mingle, there's less of a chance for this fanaticism to take hold.

Ironically Indonesia is one of the most liberal, accepting, and tolerant societies concerning homosexuality and that transgender f*ckery in the world. As a matter of fact the trannie freaks are a part of mainstream Indonesian society. They those abominations on TV. In my opinion, in the societies where they sexes con co-mingle and engage in normal sexual behavior, tit gives the men chance to release some sexual tension and some pinned up aggression. Rumor had it that Arafat had a thing for young boys
 

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its all culture... To an American or someone with a western cultural influence hearing about things like open sexuality and homosexuality might be shocking and frowned upon but America is sexually repressed and specializes in turning people against each other. To the rest of the world homosexuality isn't that big of a deal. If your into it your into it, if your not then your not.

Look at the Spartans. Everyone thinks spartans are these cool bad asses that are all about protecting their way of life and they were but people don't ever hear about the other side of the story. Spartans also believed in homosexual relationships with young teens and nude exhibitionism. Homosexuality was actually a huge part of the spartan culture / military.
 

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Drum&Bass said:
Spartans also believed in... nude exhibitionism.
Kind of puts a new spin on the movie 300. :whistle:
 
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It's like the ancient Greeks I guess.
 
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its all culture... To an American or someone with a western cultural influence hearing about things like open sexuality and homosexuality might be shocking and frowned upon but America is sexually repressed and specializes in turning people against each other. To the rest of the world homosexuality isn't that big of a deal. If your into it your into it, if your not then your not.

I'm not attracted to young boys. Call me repressed if you'd like.
 

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