Aggression Towards Women

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huskybear

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I recently read an article on "Womens Battered Shelters." I was disturbed and also enlightened by the counselors at these centers who witness a "revolving door process"....meaning that they see many battered women going back to their abusing husbands and boyfriends. Why? It is related to security issues, money, no where else to go, or maybe respect for their husbands and boyfriends ---which I think is the best answer.

It made me start to think about all my male friends and relatives that beat their girlfriends and wives. Im not a social scientist, but ironically, many years later these couples are still together.
I had asked the question. What makes a woman stand by her man after he beats her? I discovered the answer to that question many years ago.

In 1990 I had been in an altercation with a girlfriend and was taken back by the fact the more I abused her----the more she grew to respect me. The mor she wanted to stand by my side. Yet, the ones I dated in the past who I was relaxed and laid back with would always dump me or cheat on me. I was dumped because I didnt slap my girl around enough or push her around. Now she is with a cop who is doing that and she stays! He wins, I lose.

I am not an advocate of abusing women physically. But I honestly believe most women are drawn to physically abusive men who can dominate them. Its a psychological disposition that some women can relate.

I think if I would have been a little more physical with my girlfriend and slapped her around a bit when she was being bad---she would be right her by my side. But shes not---instead she dumped me for a cop who is probably physical with her and it makes me feel like less of a man.

Many women can identify with abusive men and see men as the protector and provider. Here are some examples. Ted Bundy murdered over 33 young women. He strangled, raped, and beat them to death. Yet, Ted Bundy had so much "female attention" and female fan mail after the murders that the prison guards had to stop the incoming mail. Most of the mail that was read were proposals for marriage. Bundy wasn't shocked. He had said "some women found his violent stimulus---highly desirable and mysterious." Almost as if they crave romance novels and fantasy. Many other notable criminals had said "women are like dogs, the more you beat them the more they love you."

Even Sean Connery had said "he would slap a woman from time to time if she got out of line." Many women still find Connery very sexy. But I think it has more to do with his fame of course rather than his temper.

I think men who act more like physical men can go further with women than average men who dont display much physical aggression. I believe from my experience men get dumped by not being PHYSICALLY MASCULINE ENOUGH.

Women seem to be very attracted to these types of physical men and would never consider dumping these types:

A.) The physical abuser. He slaps her around, kicks her, beats her, pushes her, shoves her around. Raises his voice with her. In other words he doesnt put up with any of her sh*t. She knows who the boss is in the relationship. The bad boy type. Types of physical abusers: Bikers, criminals, felons, prisoners, police officers, rockstars, daredevils, firemen, cowboys.

B.) The successful type. Makes very good money. Wears suits, lives a good lifestyle, treats her with average interest. Doesnt kiss her ass. Focuses on his career and she is just along for the ride. Types of successful men: CEO, Moviestar, Business Owner, Enterpenuer, Banker, Real estate Developer.

C.)The boring type. Steady eddie behavior. Has a pension. Good benefits, decent pay. He is slow in his movements. He is calm, cool, and collected. He has a routine, anal retentive, and sticks to a plan. Decisive and calculated in his behavior. Very predictable. Types: Accountant, tax collector, govt. official, engineer.


These are 2 types that women will mostly reject or dump:

A.)Artistic-romantic type. Loves beauty,music, beauty in everything, poetry senstive, writes love notes, plays music, acts, paints, draws, and loves self-espression. Self-absorbed. Types: Actor, poet, musician, painter, sometimes a teacher, female type careers.

B.)Nice guy-Helper. Wants to do good. Good smaritan. Belongs to causes like Crusades. Pleases everyone.. Kisses ass. Seeks attention. Is warm and friendly. Good natures. Nice boy. A good do-er.
Types: Waiter, nurse, flight attendant, teacher, advocate, and crowd pleaser.

I think we are all a mixture of all of them---But i think most men are purely one type. Which one are you?

Some guys like my biker friends are so in control of their women. They are MASTERS with women. They can manipulate women, dominate them, and their girlfriends will never stray. They got their women wrapped around their fingers and those women wouldnt dare cheat on them or they would get beat.

I strongly believe women want men to become PHYSICAL MEN and stand their ground with them----even if it means violence. Women need to know you are a man and can dish out pain on them---or they will dish out the pain on you by sleeping with another guy behind your back and eventually dumping you while you are drowning in your tears. Get tough with women!

Just my 2 cents.
 

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huskybear said:
Some guys like my biker friends are so in control of their women. They are MASTERS with women. They can manipulate women, dominate them, and their girlfriends will never stray. They got their women wrapped around their fingers and those women wouldnt dare cheat on them or they would get beat.

I strongly believe women want men to become PHYSICAL MEN and stand their ground with them----even if it means violence. Women need to know you are a man and can dish out pain on them---or they will dish out the pain on you by sleeping with another guy behind your back and eventually dumping you while you are drowning in your tears. Get tough with women!

Just my 2 cents.

What the hell makes you think controlling and dominating women so great? You seem to look up to your deuschbag friends who beat women. If you think its ok to hit a women when she "gets out of line," then you need to get some help or something. Im not gonna explain why people become aggressive, but you have some distorted views. These women usually stay with these toolbags out of fear of being killed, ending up in the hospital, or something else that would be physically damaging. In addition, these women usually have invested a great deal in the relationship and so they feel they cant leave. If these women had another man or hadnt felt as if they have invested a lot in the relationship (kids) then i can GUARENTEE you that they would leave. This is how women end up dead on the news...because of skewed perspectives held by retards like you.
 
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Beating a women is NOT ok, get that through your head now. There's a difference between beating a women and standing your ground and not taking ****. I stand my ground, raise my voice when needed, and I'm dominating as hell. Women know this, I don't need to say it.

Being PHYSICAL, I can understand. There are a few women who I play around with a lot, wrestle, shove around, throw around, it's all fun but she knows I'm rough and rugged and we end up with bruises a lot. But it's all fun and there are times where they get mad, but it's nothing too serious.

I'll never hit a girl or "slap her around a bit" though, ever. That makes you a coward, no matter how you look at it. If you need to hit a girl to prove that you're a man, you're not a fvcking man. You're a pvssy because you can't handle it when she gets out of line.
 

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Oooooh wow, if this is for real then you're one f.ucked up dude.
 

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Hahaha, nice lame-assed attempt at trying to be profound. Keep trying though. I hope that nobody takes this advice seriously. You act like it's a bad thing to treat women well. Good luck.
 

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Dude! If you even think for a minute in any truth of this, you're one messed up dude. How strong of a man do you think you are by being able to beat up women?

If no one is going to flame you, I MOST CERTAINLY WILL! WTF MAN! GET IT THROUGH TO YOUR HEAD! WOMEN STAY WITH THEIR MEN NOTTTTT BECAUSE THEY BEAT THEM!!!! WOMEN STAY WITH THESE MEN BECAUSE THEY DELUDE THEMSELVES IN BEING ABLE TO CHANGE THEM. THEY DELUDE THEMSELVES IN BEING ABLE TO KEEP THEM AND CONTROL THEM. IF YOU WANT TO BE IN THAT TYPE OF RELATIONSHIP WHERE YOU HAVE TO ACT ALL MACHO AND BEAT UP WOMEN TO KEEP THEM, LET ME BE THE FIRST IN LINE TO KICK THE **** OUT OF YOU.

NOBODY KNOWS WHAT WOMEN WANT. NOBODY. WOMEN DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT WOMEN WANT. THE THINGS YOU READ ABOUT ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIPS ARE FROM DEMENTED PEOPLE WHO ENJOY THE PLEASURE OF PAIN. IT'S A PSYCHOLOGICAL DISORDER. IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S A MAJORITY. THERE'S SOME F>CKED UP PEOPLE OUT THERE. BUT THAT DOES MEAN IT'S OK TO BEAT WOMEN AND IN THINKING IT'S THE KEY? HOLY SH>T.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW TO RESPOND TO THIS CAUSE I'M SO ANGRY RIGHT NOW.
 

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Before you start flaming me...REMAIN OBJECTIVE

I grew up on a farm and I was surrounded by violence. I think I only slapped one one girl in my life and I punched out about 20 guys in my life. I got into many, many fights growing up. I played all three sports. I went hunting. Thats the environment I grew up in. Its my upbringing. Some of the guys I got into fights with are my friends today.
Im sure many of you got into fights growing up and understood violence back then. Today its a different kind of violence with guns and ammunition, etc. Its the "pepsi generation."

In my environment it was common to see a man slapping his wife from time to time if she was caught straying or flirting with another man.
Thats like saying :"How terrible that mean tiger chases, attacks, and eats that poor little defenseless animal." The tiger doesnt know any better. Its just their nature.

You may see a farmer spanking their child over their knee for something the child did wrong----but if a "child abuse advocate" saw that-----that would be considered child abuse! But to the farmer thats considered "disciplining" a child. We had a paddle in school growing up and I got spanked on occassion. And i saw other kids getting spanked as well. We didnt think much of it.
Nowadays when i discover that principals dont have paddles anymore....i laugh. Now i understand why kids bring guns to school, spit at the teachers, yell at them, and stand up to authority.

I think many of you so called "Don Juans" are in denial and are not being MEN.
For example, did you not read that "Ted Bundy" post? He had received so much incoming mail from his female fans that guards how to stop the mail."

I dont approve of Ted Bundy and im glad Bundy was sent to the electric chair for his wrong doings against women. Obviously those women were not afraid of a violent man and see it as VERY masculine and attractive. They are pursuing him. Not the other way around. Have you ever been to a kickboxing match? I have seen some of the most beautiful women in the world show up at these events. SOME HOT WOMEN LOVE VIOLENCE. I have never met a girlfriend yet that doesnt like to be manhandled! NOT ONE. What does that tell you?


There are tons of violent criminals locked up in prisons(like Bundy) that get many females chasing after them and wanting to be with him. I dont think they are too afraid of the consequences of being with a vicious man.


There are some women out there who have also turned into men these days. I see highpowered female CEO's, high powered female attorneys, and doctors. These women are crazy. They have a burning desire to play in a man's game.
Whenever i meet a female lawer I always ask her why she would wanted to be a lawyer and not a paralegal instead? One got appalled with I asked her that. In fact I have struck a nerve with her(as I have done with many of you because of this post)...because she has some hidden insecurity about being below a man. Some women cant handle that. They secretly have penis envy.

I think the don juan forums site encourages young men to deal with women without violence which is very good thing and im an advocate of that! Such as "walking away" if she gives you grief, "staying confident", "ignoring her if she did something you didnt like" "not always being available" "not contacting her if she dumps you", "always spin more plates" to make yourself a challenge, Pooks articles, etc etc...Even though Im' an advocate of this don juan stuff, I also think some of it...key word her..."some of it" is denial stuff. Denial. Denial. Denial.

Women are running loose these days because they have taken over the reigns. They now wear strap-on dildos and we men have become feminized metrosexuals. Go to the nightclubs and you will see all the man-hating b*tches.

THE FACT: This don juan forumn was created because MEN CANT HANDLE WOMEN. PERIOD. So we come here for advice.

THE ANSWER: If you are angry with a woman YOU LET HER KNOW IT!! THATS HOW YOU GET HER RESPECT! Dont ignore her, dont blow her off, dont act like it doesnt bother you, dont spin more plates because these are just denial games!
Give her a good wallop! She will know not to tread on you. But also be a man of your word and dont tread on her either. Respect her and respect what you have together. Respect your relationship and you will have profound respect for each other.

But I also think the donjuan site should speak of "standing his ground" and "slap" your wife or girlfriend if you suspect she has penis envy, hits you, or mistreats you in anyway. cheating, abuse, lying, etc. DO NOT NOT BEAT ON HER.

My friends parents have been married for 50 years....did i stutter? 50 years! I had seen his dad slap his mother a few times. He never beat on her. But he slapped her once or twice when she did soemthing that was mean to him. She isnt afraid of him. He wont kill her if she leaves. He would prolly welcome it. He knows who he is as a man.
She wouldnt leave him because she loves him for who he is. He also loves her. They know their roles. They respect each other.

I think many of you didnt read my post "deep enough."

First, keep an open mind and dont judge people so harshly if you dont know their upbinging.

Secondly, Dont criticize me because i have different attitudes and opinions---thats why this is a forumn to exhange information. I have that freedom.

Thirdly, if you want to delete me or my post for offending others thats up to you. I dont advocate hitting women. But no woman is going to walk over me either.


Sometimes a tiger is just a tiger.

Hope this helps...
 
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I thought, that being a DonJuan, and being a man meant to be the best you could be. Making the best out of yourself. Not for others, but for your own good. Standing your own ground, and be a proud individuum, who must never look at himself with fear or shame.

When I read posts like huskybears, I don't see that.

You grew up around violence? So that makes it okay? Come on. It's just your nature? You are a human being, you have the means of reason, of thought, of morals and principle. If you cannot be more than your animal heritage, then you're not worth to call yourself a man.

Why do you ask female layers why they didn't want the lower job? Why should they? Do you have brain envy?

Your words are guided by fear of being betrayed and by arrogance for being a man. You think women are below you. Guess what? You are a puzzy.
 
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