Age Differences In Dating

[Victory Unlimited]

Yeah Str8up,



I think that younger women often equate older men with being sexually UNSELFISH, and therefore more focused on THEIR pleasure. And I think a guy who can give a woman her first, or her BEST episode of sexual satisfaction is definitely gonna leave a lasting effect on her psyche.

What I like to do is speak words of sexual control and ownership to women that I'm in bed with. During the height of their passion, I will say things to them like "You wanna comm for me, don't you? Everytime you SEE me, you LOVE comming for me, don't you?" LOL

I don't know where the hell I picked this stuff up from, but any of you guys who HAVEN'T done this before---TRY IT. But be careful though, I believe this can be some real hypnotic, PIMP-type stuff if done right, AND on the right woman. lol

I've found that talking this way to ANY woman I've been with makes her climax harder than she would have if I hadn't. In the best case scenarios, something about saying stuff like this to a woman at the EXACT point before she climaxes seems to somewhat anchor her to you sexually.

And Str8up, that point you made about women complimenting you on your sexuality is KEY. I don't believe many women do this when they DON'T mean it. Why? Because they don't have to. They already know that if the GUY enjoyed her the first time, he'll definitely be back for more.

I've found that most women think that their sex is the BOMB anyway, like it's a given, or a birthright. AFC's being too damn "happy to be there" have help perpetuate this myth.

So if it was a case of women furthering their "manipulation agenda", sexually complimenting us verbally would be overkill. Because they know they already HAD us after our first nut. LOL


Think about it.



March on.

 

[ER!C L!VE]

The 33 yr old knew about the 20 yr old and CONSTANTLY brought it up like it was a bad thing. I would just sit back and laugh cause I knew she was just projecting her insecurities about approaching her "use by" date.

Yep. That's such a common pattern. Older women telling her man that he is 'getting old' and 'we're getting old' and 'you can't dress like that' or 'you can't get younger women - they don't like older guys'. Chicks will brainwash you with this **** if you let them. They bring it up over and over and over again. Exaclty how you said it: projecting their reality onto you.

My 33yo buddy recently started dating a 27yo girl and she started saying that stuff to him. Thankfully, I'd already discussed the fact that she WILL start saying things like 'we're getting really old', etc. He called her on it immediately.

**There should be a thread dedicated to it, since it's so damn common with aging women trying to bring mature to their reality of getting older (the problem is that men buy into it an capitulate to marriage)** :cheer:

I've found that talking this way to ANY woman I've been with makes her climax harder than she would have if I hadn't. In the best case scenarios, something about saying stuff like this to a woman at the EXACT point before she climaxes seems to somewhat anchor her to you sexually.
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You're making me think you're Player Supreme. (not that I'd mind ) You're receiting the type of shyt he says to womens.

Have a great day everyone!

Eric

 

[sparky0000]

are you boys so blind that you think high-caliber girls (so very rare in north america/uk) give a damn about sex? that is not what they look for in a relationship. maybe some chubby flip-flop wearing american coeds at spring break do, but i would rather go gay than deal with that.

i swear you dudes need hookers. maybe that would get your minds' straight. if you stepped back for a second and took sex away from the equation you would see things clearer.

think romance. think moments. think little things. that is how she thinks. she isn't thinking about how you could please her in bed. most girls don't even particularly enjoy sex. that is right...they really don't care for sex. kissing, hugging, cuddling...that is the pinnacle for them. if you think otherwise you have been spending too much time with 30 plus year old tramps. the kind that already have kids.

seriously, all of these lame don juan gurus are just salesmen. you give your audience what they want. you guys want to hear about how it all comes down to what happens in bed. so they feed you stories about how to hook girls with incredible sex. fact of the matter is that girls are not built like that. even in places like north america/uk where girls tend to be very masculine and aggressive. deep down they just want to feel love. if that sounds weak and girlish it is only because IT IS weak and girlish.

gay boys love sex. your discussions are more suited for the gay community where guys view sex as if it is strictly a physical tool for pleasure.

btw, only in america would a guy in his 30's be considered an older single guy. geez, that in and of itself is reason to emmigrate.

 

[Bonhomme]

Great posts, and so very true. The only thing I have to add is a rhetorical question: when YOU were 20, were there any 40something women YOU would have liked to (or did) do?

 

[insidious]

Great posts, and so very true. The only thing I have to add is a rhetorical question: when YOU were 20, were there any 40something women YOU would have liked to (or did) do?

Hell yeah there were some. I just wanted to flip their switches and let them appreciate by youth!

My 2 favorites - one LTFB who I was with from about 25 through 30, sporadically. She was about 13 years older than me.
When I was 35 I was with a 53 year old - that is more exteme, granted, but she was great. I've never been ageist when it comes to bed play :crackup:

 

[white sox bill]

A few yrs ago when I was 41, I took home a 22 yr old...when I was 30, I was fukking a 17 yr old (not illegal BTW) who turnd 18 a short time later. I'm 47 but routinely get mistaken for mid-late 30's. Am currently working on a 32 yr old and a 34 yr old and another one I assume is late 20's.

Men get better with age (to a point). Women have it a bit rougher. Rock on Men!

 

[realsmoothie]

I don't know what's going on with me lately... and I'm definitely not TRYING to do this... but the last three girls I've been with (well, ALMOST been with) have been 22, 20, and 21 respectively. I'm 32.

But there's a warning here for how NOT to get with a really young girl.

The last girl was just last night. She was a repeat customer at the place I work, I'd been chatting her up for months. Thought she was in her mid-20's, but found out she was 20. Not really a problem. So it was her birthday last night, she invited me to the bar with her and her friends. I got there and played it very cool, "walked her home" and she invites me upstairs. Got up to her place, had a drink... and for some reason I kept bringing up how old I was in comparison to her.

Dumb, dumb, dumb. You just gotta SHUT UP about that stuff... which I learned from the two previous youngsters. Needless to say the evening turned out totally platonic, although there was lots of talk and flirting. Talking about age wasn't the only thing keeping me out of her pants... but it sure didn't hurt.

The moral? Even if you FEEL too old, she may not so don't bring it up.

 

[ER!C L!VE]

and for some reason I kept bringing up how old I was in comparison to her.

Dumb, dumb, dumb. You just gotta SHUT UP about that stuff... which I learned from the two previous youngsters. Needless to say the evening turned out totally platonic

I had to learn that one too. In fact, I was told by one girl who was 18 that it really bothered her when I brought up our age difference (I thought it was interesting conversation for some reason ). Keep age out of the conversation when talking with a younger or older woman. :cheer:

 

[drmeathead]

i was 27 and dated a 19 year old. dont do it

 

[KarmaSutra]

You're making me think you're Player Supreme. (not that I'd mind ) You're receiting the type of shyt he says to womens.

Nah, Player Supreme is disingenuous and narrowminded. He regurgitates the sh!t Deangelo spouts out. Sargeant V.U. has some really good insight and points of view and can think for himself.

 

[edmond]

Is it possible to have a lets say a 20 year old lady to be sexually attracted to someone middle aged?

LoneSilver

Depends on what he looks like, if he has a hardbody, then yes and if he is rich, then yes also.
What do you look like?

 

[LoneSilver]

OK Brad Pitt you don't count here lol!!

That was a cool post Victory Unlimited very interesting and I believe too that younger women help and almost cure the impotence problems we men something beat ourselves up over.

I am definitely going to look at this younger older relationship differently and just go with the flow and see what happens.

Just the other day I was minding my own business while out shopping and I look over and see this young find ass maybe 22 or so looking the other way and when our eyes met it was like she froze in time or something and seemed to enjoy the view but I sort of passed it off as no way this young sweety would be interested in me an ol' silver haired dude lol! Guess times are changing the older we men get and the way we take care of our bodies and minds the younger babes seem to drool for us... dam guess we are just dam good>wink.

LoneSilver

Yo Troops,


I've been seeing a lady in her mid-twenties (15 years younger than me), who seems to be MOSTLY sexually attracted to me. I've been seeing her for about 3 months so far and I'm the one who has to stop HER from thinking about sex all the time. lol

Here are my stats: I'm a good looking guy who looks far younger than I actually am (you know, just like EVERYBODY ELSE on this board...lol). Most women I meet are usually shocked when I tell them my age. Many don't believe me. But because age is always a potential sticking point, I NEVER tell any woman my age right up front.

The reason is simple, and I've wrote about it in books, and I think I've mentioned it on here before too:

People look for reasons NOT to date you.

So because of this, I've found it's always better to allow women a chance to get to know YOU first. That way, hopefully, by the time they find out more ABOUT you, they are already invested enough in you HOLISTICLY to allow a minor detail about you to dissuade them from dating you.

But anyway, back to the question. YES. Women DO find older guys SEXUALLY attractive. In fact, I think that if you are an attractive man (whatever THAT means to that particular woman), she'll wanna get with you NO MATTER what your age is.

There's a reason why Denzel Washington still has as many girls on his jock as Shemar Moore. And there's a 16 or 17 year age difference between these two guys.

Shemar Moore
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0005245/

Denzel Washington
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000243/

And with the woman I just mentioned, I have spent no major money on her---just the usual dinner/movie type stuff. So her attraction to me does not seem to be financially driven, but I'm always looking...LOL. But all I can tell you is this:

I give this girl orgasms like she NEVER had before. And it's not just about me having mastered some physical technique either. I have made this woman orgasm by just whispering in her EAR. lol

So both the IDEA of me, AND what I do to her physically routinely makes her have multiple orgasms for almost 30 minutes AFTER I've stopped actually stimulating her. WTF??? LOL

Now my purpose for sharing this is NOT to paint myself as a SEXUAL Demi-God, but quite the contrary. Sure, I'm pretty good with "the sex", but I have NEVER had this kind of effect on a woman of ANY age. So that's what leads me to believe that this chemistry between me and her is not due to external material factors-----but rather, it's MOSTLY sexual.

So forget about taking those sexual performance enhancing drugs, soldiers. Because I believe that fine Ass younger women who BEG to fukk YOU-----"ARE" viagra. lol


Peace...one day.

 

[LoneSilver]

Well, I am 75% gray or silver as some say. 6-3-6-4 depending on the shoe or boots and weigh 210 with a flat stomach and working on getting more muscular though I have wide shoulders and the classic v-shape back.

I have a minor disability of one eye but other than this I don't sense I am ugly and may wear a mustache or goatee that is gray or I go clean shaven depending on my mood.

Not rich though.

LoneSilver

Depends on what he looks like, if he has a hardbody, then yes and if he is rich, then yes also.
What do you look like?

 

[LoneSilver]

Classic

banging younger women is like playing video games - you know you really are too old to be doing it, but its still fun.

 

[STR8UP]

Got up to her place, had a drink... and for some reason I kept bringing up how old I was in comparison to her.

Dumb, dumb, dumb. You just gotta SHUT UP about that stuff... which I learned from the two previous youngsters. Needless to say the evening turned out totally platonic, although there was

No, no, NO! I've brought this up before and you older guys NEED TO TAKE NOTE! When you are dealing with a younger chick you CAN and SHOULD bring up the age difference. Don't harp on and on about it, but DO joke with her about it and DO make it seem like HER age might be a problem for YOU. Make it a running joke. She will play along and try to say that you are "old", but it's all part of the game. As long as you play along and don't get bent out of shape about it you're fine.

Hell, I even told the 20 yr old that I have a metal detector. She teases me about my "beepbeep" machine and I just laugh along....

She recently sent one of those myspace survey bulletins and one of the questions was "How much older than you is the oldest person you have ever dated?" She answered that it was me (not by name of course) being 14 years older, that we hadn't really dated, more like "hung out" and she seemed to be really proud of the fact.

I'm telling you, it works like magic every single time. I have dated younger women almost exclusively since I was 25. Back then it was 18-20 yr olds. Not that big of an age diff but it usually came up nonetheless.

I once had a female friend tell me that older guys "intimidate" younger women. That convo stuck in my head for years but it wasn't until recently that I realized I could use it to my advantage.

Seriously.....I always joke around with the 20 yr old about our age difference. I call her "kid" and tell her she's just a "baby" (in a good natured tone of course) and it puts her on the constant mission of proving that she is old enough for ME. When I tease her she'll say things like "I'm not a kid, I'm a grown a$$ woman" or "I hate it when you call me that" and then 30 seconds later she's gaga over me again.

I'm telling you, this is some powerful sh!t. It messes with their heads the same way treating a hottie like a piggy does.

 

[realsmoothie]

No, no, NO! I've brought this up before and you older guys NEED TO TAKE NOTE! When you are dealing with a younger chick you CAN and SHOULD bring up the age difference. Don't harp on and on about it, but DO joke with her about it and DO make it seem like HER age might be a problem for YOU. Make it a running joke. She will play along and try to say that you are "old", but it's all part of the game. As long as you play along and don't get bent out of shape about it you're fine.

Hell, I even told the 20 yr old that I have a metal detector. She teases me about my "beepbeep" machine and I just laugh along....

She recently sent one of those myspace survey bulletins and one of the questions was "How much older than you is the oldest person you have ever dated?" She answered that it was me (not by name of course) being 14 years older, that we hadn't really dated, more like "hung out" and she seemed to be really proud of the fact.

I'm telling you, it works like magic every single time. I have dated younger women almost exclusively since I was 25. Back then it was 18-20 yr olds. Not that big of an age diff but it usually came up nonetheless.

I once had a female friend tell me that older guys "intimidate" younger women. That convo stuck in my head for years but it wasn't until recently that I realized I could use it to my advantage.

Seriously.....I always joke around with the 20 yr old about our age difference. I call her "kid" and tell her she's just a "baby" (in a good natured tone of course) and it puts her on the constant mission of proving that she is old enough for ME. When I tease her she'll say things like "I'm not a kid, I'm a grown a$$ woman" or "I hate it when you call me that" and then 30 seconds later she's gaga over me again.

I'm telling you, this is some powerful sh!t. It messes with their heads the same way treating a hottie like a piggy does.

Well... you're basically talking about a neg-hit, no?

And my experience is that you only use neg-hits with girls that have decent self-esteem. The 20 year old girl I was with recently definitely did not, and if I teased her about ANYTHING she'd go cold and grumpy. The newer one, it's a mixed bag.

You may be right in other matters... I know I HAVE teased some girls about our age difference, and it's had mixed results. But why bother taking the risk when there are lots of other ways to go about it?

 

[STR8UP]

I think that younger women often equate older men with being sexually UNSELFISH, and therefore more focused on THEIR pleasure. And I think a guy who can give a woman her first, or her BEST episode of sexual satisfaction is definitely gonna leave a lasting effect on her psyche.

After my last real "girlfriend" and I broke up, she unexpectedly told me that I was the only guy who had ever given her an orgasm. Although she basically cheated on me, there are plenty of times since we broke up that I have been tempted to call her up and give her what she needs, hehe. Damn I miss that tight a$$ little bod. Anyways....

What I like to do is speak words of sexual control and ownership to women that I'm in bed with. During the height of their passion, I will say things to them like "You wanna comm for me, don't you? Everytime you SEE me, you LOVE comming for me, don't you?" LOL

Daaammmn...we think alike! I've been doing the same thing for awhile now. Never stopped to think that it might be helping me out, but now that you mention it it makes sense.

And Str8up, that point you made about women complimenting you on your sexuality is KEY. I don't believe many women do this when they DON'T mean it. Why? Because they don't have to. They already know that if the GUY enjoyed her the first time, he'll definitely be back for more.

I had that same feeling as well.

I mentioned it to a couple of friends and they shrugged it off as if the chicks were just stroking my ego, but I'm guessing they were just protecting their own ego cause they had never heard it before....lol

Another thing that confirms he truthfulness of it is the fact that until I hit my 30's I can't remember getting much more than a passing compliment in the sack. Now it's almost EVERY time I get laid.

That's why I'm counting the days till the 33 yr old comes back for more. She got involved in a LDR recently and I have a feeling she's been with more than two or three men. If I truly did give her the best sex of her life I'm doubting this new scmuck is gonna somehow top me. Tick, tock, tick, tock....

I've found that most women think that their sex is the BOMB anyway, like it's a given, or a birthright. AFC's being too damn "happy to be there" have help perpetuate this myth.

Haha, yea, I have found that the ones who claim to have the best skills (especially in the BJ department) don't really live up to the hype.

 

[STR8UP]

Well... you're basically talking about a neg-hit, no?

And my experience is that you only use neg-hits with girls that have decent self-esteem. The 20 year old girl I was with recently definitely did not, and if I teased her about ANYTHING she'd go cold and grumpy. The newer one, it's a mixed bag.

You may be right in other matters... I know I HAVE teased some girls about our age difference, and it's had mixed results. But why bother taking the risk when there are lots of other ways to go about it?

Of course if she's gonna start crying I wouldn't go there, but it isn't like you are calling her a fatty or telling her she has sh!tty taste in clothes. Youth isn't something women obsess over being a negative thing like they do with OLD age or cellulite or looks or whatever.

She likely has the preconception of YOUR age being a bad thing going into this. It's all about how YOU perceive it, and she being younger is going to pay close attention to how YOU react to it to figure out how SHE should be reacting.

But yea, whatever you do DO NOT make your age a negative isssue. If you do that you're dead in the water.

 

[STR8UP]

I had to learn that one too. In fact, I was told by one girl who was 18 that it really bothered her when I brought up our age difference (I thought it was interesting conversation for some reason ). Keep age out of the conversation when talking with a younger or older woman. :cheer:

Heh....I have one lady friend who is older than I am by a year or two, and I tease her all the time about her age. Keep in mind this is a FRIEND and age is a touchy subject with older women, but if you do it the right way you can get away with a lot more than you would think and sometimes use it to your advantage.

 

[realsmoothie]

Of course if she's gonna start crying I wouldn't go there, but it isn't like you are calling her a fatty or telling her she has sh!tty taste in clothes. Youth isn't something women obsess over being a negative thing like they do with OLD age or cellulite or looks or whatever.

She likely has the preconception of YOUR age being a bad thing going into this. It's all about how YOU perceive it, and she being younger is going to pay close attention to how YOU react to it to figure out how SHE should be reacting.

But yea, whatever you do DO NOT make your age a negative isssue. If you do that you're dead in the water.

Yeah, the more I think about this the more it makes sense. What I need to wrap my head around is the fact that my age is NOT a negative thing. I am more together and more experienced than most guys that any 20-ish girl has been with, and as such it's HER age that is more of a problem. So when I knock a girl for being young I can rest assured that I'm not making something up just to be an idiot.

And the more I think about it, that 20 year old I was talking about with the low self-esteem clearly was more antsy about herself not being mature enough for me than me being too old for her. I wish I'd realized that from the start...