after f*cking this girl friday night i realized......

[Lone_raider]

Excellent thread. I just replied to someones "first time making out" post with a similar response and then I saw this thread! I basically said something about how sex has become some kind of incredible ideal and once you have done it, it's not as great as you once thought. Sounds strange? but that's the way it is. Perhaps if we weren't led to beleive this by movies, TV, society, guys wouldn't be so paranoid about getting women, or being virgins, and would actually get women! None of it's a big deal, getting a girl isn't incredibly difficult, finding one you really like is.

 

[jakethasnake]

Originally posted by Lone_raider
None of it's a big deal, getting a girl isn't incredibly difficult, finding one you really like is.

Precisely.



On top of that, finding a girl you really like who actually likes you back just as much is even more difficult.

 

[AlwaysExcel]

So Allan, why aren't you still with your Swedish babe?

These methods aren't just for catching a woman's attention, they're for holding her attention too. I have friends who have very fun and entertaining personalities. They can attract women but their game is not tight. They end up wasting 1-4 years in a relationship that ends on a nasty note because they let the woman control the whole thing from the get go.

Of course, I don't know your situation so you may have broken up with your Swede for other reasons. However, it's still something to consider. I've found that maintaining challenge and seduction in the long term gets the least amount of attention from both AFCs and seduction gurus.

Originally posted by allan976


Allan

PS: I'm not trying to be a 'hater', but after reading the FAQ on this website and many of the posts, I wonder: aren't DJ's simply playing the male version of the old female game of 'playing hard to get?' When the 'required' reading suggests that we end conversations early to keep them wanting more, that we have evidence of other interested females as 'social proof', that we not show too much interest too early, this sounds EXACTLY like playing a GAME (of 'look at me: I'm hard to get'), and an immature one at that.

My last girlfriend was a beautiful lady from Sweden. We met at a party and talked for nearly two hours the first time we met. What if I had taken up the DJ board advice not to show too much interest in her too soon? That's right, she would have walked! Instead, I took my time to get to know her, thoroughly enjoyed my time with her and watched the chemistry fly as she locked eyes with me as we talked. She's beautiful, but hardly a shop a holic. She's also one of the kindest most sensitive people I've met. No games were required. Due to my shyness, she eventually asked me out first to go dancing. No games there!

If she had played 'hard to get' and if I had played 'hard to get', jeez. If you are an interesting and reasonably attractive male, I don't think there is a need to obsess over social proof or about demonstrating alpha male status etc.

I'm not a hater, I'm just trying to keep it real, and offer up some balance and self criticism. Let the flame wars begin!

 

[allan976]

Always,

The short answer is that she was on a student visa and had to return to Sweden after a year. This was probably one important reason motivating her to ask me out first, since her stay was limited. I didn't want to get too emotionally attached as a result even though I liked her, and was therefore reluctant to get involved.

The longer answer is that she was part of a four girl 'party crew' that drank/ate/made merry together. They were best friends and coincidentally, all four were single (when I first met them) and all four were interested in 'yours truly.' I had some trouble deciding which one or all to pursue, and was reluctant to stir up jealous rivalries within the group, but the Swedish girl more or less made the decision for me. As luck would have it, I liked the Swede the most on a personal level anyway. (All were attractive, early to mid twenties btw.)

I'm now trying to rekindle the flames with a second member of the 'party crew.' We just went out a week ago and remain in regular contact. I'm certain she was interested when we first met, especially since she flatly told me of her interest ('i told party girl x i'm interested in you'), and tried to get me to take off my shirt when we went clubbing. When we went out recently, she kept rambling on about hot guys she's dated recently to try to get me jealous. This girl is stateside, so hopefully I can get this going.

If it makes the hardcore/extreme DJ's feel better, I won't be shy about letting 'party girl two' aware of my other dates, groupies, prospects, or any other hotties within my 'orbit.'

Allan

 

[PlayerSupreme]

Yeah Hb your about ready for a step up to a higher level in the game. When you get to the level of ho's ain't shyt...after you've fawked 50 or more...then you begin to think of ways to make that shyt pay.

If your going to be giving all these ho's all that good sex...then what are they doing in return for you? Not a got dam thang. WhY? Cause society has you programmed to be a SYMP.

HB. A lion lays in the jungle all day and does 3 things. He eats and he fawks every 17 minutes. His ho's do all the other work for him. The last thing the king of the jungle does is defend his territory.

You can be like the lion or the Jackal.

Don't give da dyck away unless your getting something in return. Make them pay for the dates. Make them take YOU out. I'm not talking about some weak assed gigalo shyt either. I'm not talking about pimping also, but that would be open to you at a higher level in this game if you so chose it.

I'm talking about taking control of you and your life.

Then when your ready to find love you will be the type of person who will attract a true soul mate. I've found that if your not ready the soul mate will not appear.

You gotta raise your energy up to the level that she is on before she will appear in your life. To get there you gotta have a higher level of game otherwise you will blow it when the ONE shows up, or you might not even notice her under your nose.

Hit me up.

 

[AMF]

Originally posted by Big Pappy
I believe that once you reach this state of detachment, that's when women percieve you as a "challenge". Now it will get interesting for you.

Definetely. And I think age has a hell of a lot to do with it.

This site really isnt divisive enough in terms of age. Although I understand its not really possible (or "fair.") But what Im saying is youve got the 15, 16, 17 year old kids still mad with hormones, and quite frankly their advice tends to not relate to what some of the older folks feel. Theyre just naturally on a different page.

Many of us really feel this thread because we're no longer ruled by the insatiable hormonal appetite for p**sy. In many cases, been there done that. What the f*ck else is there?

The "hardcore" DJ sentiments that someone referred to come from those who are still preoccupied with banging and not much else. But the majority of us have moved on.

 

[Ricky]

You know what

SEX is overrated.

But the first time with any new girl is a total rush.

After the first time with a certain girl, it's like you want the next one!

Does anyone agree with that!

 

[legolas]

Originally posted by Ricky
You know what

SEX is overrated.

But the first time with any new girl is a total rush.

After the first time with a certain girl, it's like you want the next one!

Does anyone agree with that!

Wow this is the second thread of this kind today. Looks like the mods are going to have to merge these babies together. Sex is overrated!!! I 100% agree. Don't know about the rush yet

 

[hb]

yo Playa supreme, your idea is good and it sounds like fun and you are right. I mean us guys usually do all the fvcken work to get that p&ssy, so wtf? why dont these b%tches do the work to get the penis now? I use to have mad respect for girls, and i still do in a way but not its like,Now i dont really give a fvck if U like me or not cause u aint ish, I dont need you nomore cause that **** aint controlling me.... Now since im trying to find the right girl, im going to have to get to know her first and if she fits my image of the girl that i want, then i will choose her. Meaning I am basically not worrying or stressing the girl, why would I? Im not trying to rush myself into a one night stand, im actually looking for a Long Term girl, so now i can take my time. This is where we become the challenge..... Just like many of you guys said.