AFC women

[frivolousz21]

I used to think there were more men with low self asteem...now I think there are more women. Almost every women I meet..wether she is cute or hot, or whatever has some kind of emtional issue.

Am I mistaken here..shouldnt women try taking control of there emotions too?

 

[rgeere]

There are a few that do, but they are normally very strong minded and sometimes controlling [not always]; it's not always that attractive.

 

[frivolousz21]

I agree with that as well..i cant dating women who try to control the relationship and me!

its ****ing rediculous

 

[rgeere]

Originally posted by frivolousz21
I agree with that as well..i cant dating women who try to control the relationship and me!

its ****ing rediculous

Thay are very rare, but there are some intelligent women who have better self-esteeme and are still submissive enough.

But like I said, they arn't a dime a dozen.

 

[FM 3321]

As long as women are physically attractive, they can act pretty much any way and still get the penis.

They can cry, be a wuss, needy, lonely, a loser, boring, a nerd but as long as they're good looking all that sstuff doesn't really matter. Men will still line up to have sex with them.

That's why men have to be in control of these things.

 

[DJHoolahoop]

hehe yup

 

[Double]

of course women are generally more insecure - the difference it is that it is to an extent okay for a woman to be insecure and emotional and for a man to a much lesser extent. btw what about those pics?

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by rgeere
Thay are very rare, but there are some intelligent women who have better self-esteeme and are still submissive enough.

But like I said, they arn't a dime a dozen.

They aren't really "submissive"...truly intelligent women who understand men are able to control the relationship while still making the man think he's in charge. It's not a "bad" kind of control, it actually makes the relationship work well, feel good for both people and it's so subtle the man never even picks up on what's really going on. And as long as the guy feels like a man, and thinks he's in charge, it's all good. That's the way I am.

 

[S0LID]

IMO men are more insecure and by men I mean afcs. They usualy get all insecure at the start, then the woman doesnt show her insecurities. Play the cool guy role and she will be smitten and a complete AFC.

 

[Double]

yeh, probably i'm so cool that i only see insecurity in them.

 

[Double]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
They aren't really "submissive"...truly intelligent women who understand men are able to control the relationship while still making the man think he's in charge. It's not a "bad" kind of control, it actually makes the relationship work well, feel good for both people and it's so subtle the man never even picks up on what's really going on. And as long as the guy feels like a man, and thinks he's in charge, it's all good. That's the way I am.

you are everything what describes being submissive - but you aren't submissive, aha! girl just get rid of your big ego and accept nature. and with being submissive i dont mean taking sh1t.

 

[ScrewIt]

They exist, you just gotta find them.

If you're a bad boy or great looking guy its certain you can scare/intimidate them into becoming Afc's around you....

 

[rgeere]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
They aren't really "submissive"...truly intelligent women who understand men are able to control the relationship while still making the man think he's in charge. It's not a "bad" kind of control, it actually makes the relationship work well, feel good for both people and it's so subtle the man never even picks up on what's really going on. And as long as the guy feels like a man, and thinks he's in charge, it's all good. That's the way I am.

No, I disagree. Women who are in control of the relationship are in control because they are being submissive. The most submissive member of a party is always the deciding factor in everything, including wars and battles.

And it isn't subtle, men do realize what is up. It is that they are more upfront than women and that is why they look like they are in charge.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by Double
you are everything what describes being submissive - but you aren't submissive, aha! girl just get rid of your big ego and accept nature. and with being submissive i dont mean taking sh1t.

I highly doubt that anyone on this forum who is actually familiar with me would call me "submissive". I'm not...not by any stretch of the imagination. In a relationship I do tend to be very much in control...but the guy never realizes it and finds me to come across as very feminine and rather traditional. I make the CHOICE to act in a way that gets the reaction I want. The person in a relationship that does that tends to have all the power, but doesn't abuse it. They use certain relationship tools they have learned to have a successful and fulfilling relationship. It is to the benefit of both people, not just the person in control.

Now, at the ripe old age of 21 I can assure you that you haven't been around the block enough times to understand what I am talking about. However, kids your age are convinced they know it all. You have much to learn about life, women and relationship dynamics. Go out and live a bit and come back and discuss this with me again when you've got a little more hair on your chest...

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by rgeere
No, I disagree. Women who are in control of the relationship are in control because they are being submissive. The most submissive member of a party is always the deciding factor in everything, including wars and battles.

And it isn't subtle, men do realize what is up. It is that they are more upfront than women and that is why they look like they are in charge.

Perhaps in "some" cases...but as usual, when I speak of these things I do so based on my own personal experience. I've NEVER been a submissive person, not even in a relationship. Slaves are submissive, someone being beat down is submissive...victims are submissive. Now, I am VERY feminine and traditional...but I am NOT "submissive". A person is only "submissive" if they are controlled by someone else and give up their own free will, beliefs, opinions, needs and desires to comply with someone else's. That is DEFINITELY NOT me...

 

[rgeere]

Originally posted by Wyldfire
Perhaps in "some" cases...but as usual, when I speak of these things I do so based on my own personal experience. I've NEVER been a submissive person, not even in a relationship. Slaves are submissive, someone being beat down is submissive...victims are submissive. Now, I am VERY feminine and traditional...but I am NOT "submissive". A person is only "submissive" if they are controlled by someone else and give up their own free will, beliefs, opinions, needs and desires to comply with someone else's. That is DEFINITELY NOT me...

But you are female, which means that there is a passive element that exist within your psyche and your outlook, unless you happen to be both butch and manly, which I highly doubt.

 

[ketostix]

Originally posted by FM 3321
As long as women are physically attractive, they can act pretty much any way and still get the penis.

They can cry, be a wuss, needy, lonely, a loser, boring, a nerd but as long as they're good looking all that sstuff doesn't really matter. Men will still line up to have sex with them.

That's why men have to be in control of these things.

That's exactly right. If a girl is attractive she can't really be an Average Frustrated Chump, at least not in the same sense of a male AFC. LSE does not equal AFC for girls. And I see Wyldfire's still spitting more female nonsense and egotism, which I won't respond to as offensive as it is.

 

[rgeere]

Originally posted by ketostix
That's exactly right. If a girl is attractive she can't really be an Average Frustrated Chump, at least not in the same sense of a male AFC. LSE does not equal AFC for girls. And I see Wyldfire's still spitting more female nonsense and egotism, which I won't respond to as offensive as it is.

Yeah, apparently she is among the increasing majority of females who have been brainwashed into thinking that being submissive is a bad thing for a woman, when in fact the very fact that women have been given a vagina in the first place has already put them into a comformist role.

I'm making it my goal to find women that havn't been brainwashed by this sort of feminazi BS. I want to find my equal opposite, not these controlling aggressive feminist witches/b;tches.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by rgeere
But you are female, which means that there is a passive element that exist within your psyche and your outlook, unless you happen to be both butch and manly, which I highly doubt.

No, there isn't anything "passive" or "submissive" about me. Nor am I "butch" or "manly". I'm very feminine yet very strong with a somewhat dominant personality. In a relationship I still have the same dominant personality, but not in an overbearing or bad way. It's very difficult to explain. The best way I can think of describing it is to say that I have the mind and thought processes of a man while still being very feminine. I don't think there are very many women like me, and I've personally never met one. Aside from my marriage to a man who was mentally ill...all of my relationships have been very good. Every man has told me that I treat them well and am very easy to get along with, and they have a hard time keeping up with me sexually. I have been told that I am feminine in an "exotic" kind of way, am a "handful" and that I am really intimidating and difficult to read. And strangely enough...every guy I've had a relationship with has either asked me to marry them or brought up the idea of getting married. So, even though I'm definitely NOT "submissive" in any way, shape or form...the way I am works quite well.

 

[Wyldfire]

Originally posted by rgeere
Yeah, apparently she is among the increasing majority of females who have been brainwashed into thinking that being submissive is a bad thing for a woman, when in fact the very fact that women have been given a vagina in the first place has already put them into a comformist role.

I'm making it my goal to find women that havn't been brainwashed by this sort of feminazi BS. I want to find my equal opposite, not these controlling aggressive feminist witches/b;tches.

lol...I love it when guys assume that I'm a feminist or have "bought into feminism". I'm actually an anti-feminist. Apparently you missed that tip of Pooks where he quoted all my rants on feminism that he collected.

I just told you that I'm NOT "submissive" and you are arguing with me that I am. I have to say that I am most likely a better judge of my personality traits than someone who doesn't even know me...but I digress.