AFC Suicide

[WestCoaster]

I'll give you some tough love: For age 26 you're thinking like a 60-year old. Quit worrying about life, you're in the prime of it whether you are with or without a woman. It's all a numbers game, you ask 50 women out, if you get 25 dates you're doing well ... I'd say I hit at about a 50 percent success/ask out rate.

You're also putting cart before horse, i.e., relationship before dating. You date like no tomorrow from 18-30 ... repeat after me: you date like no tomorrow from 18-30, you don't live with women or marry them at this age unless you find the end-all of all women. You date like crazy. There's absolutely no way you could know the traits you want in a woman without dating dozens because you'd have no comparison table (the AFC's trap, no comparisons).

You're waaaaayyyyyyy too young to be worried about loneliness, old age, one woman, etc.

But I've yelled this so much, I tire of it. Someone post Rollo's plate spinning essay, or better yet, his oneitis essay.

You probably won't listen to me, you probably won't read the DJ Bible, you probably won't read Rollo's essays, you probably won't read the Hall of Fame articles off sosuave.com, you'll be stuck on this message board. But before you do anything, go to sosuave.COM and start reading the articles. If you don't, you won't ever get it.

 

[Interceptor]

Dude, Maxtro, I had to do a double take reading your post and your age.

Dude, you are 26.

Twenty Six.

You have so MUCH LIFE AHEAD OF YOU!
God damn, boy!!!

What are you doing whining and moping, is you crazy??!

Boy, you got rocks in yo head!


My suggestions for you:

What is your dream Job or career?

What do you love in life?

What is your passion?

What is fun for you?

What challenges you physically,mentally, and spiritually?


If you could be an improved version of yourself, what wouldl you change??

What books do you want to read that will inspire you and inspire creativity?



What is your wildest fantasy or goal in life?


Answer these questions. And put the moping and depression, "Oh woe is me." crap on the back burner.

Boy, we gonna set you straight! Sho nuff!:trouble:


Get to steppin' , boy!! Answer the man's questions!!

 

[penkitten]

I'll give you some tough love: For age 26 you're thinking like a 60-year old. Quit worrying about life, you're in the prime of it whether you are with or without a woman. It's all a numbers game, you ask 50 women out, if you get 25 dates you're doing well ... I'd say I hit at about a 50 percent success/ask out rate.

You're also putting cart before horse, i.e., relationship before dating. You date like no tomorrow from 18-30 ... repeat after me: you date like no tomorrow from 18-30, you don't live with women or marry them at this age unless you find the end-all of all women. You date like crazy. There's absolutely no way you could know the traits you want in a woman without dating dozens because you'd have no comparison table (the AFC's trap, no comparisons).

You're waaaaayyyyyyy too young to be worried about loneliness, old age, one woman, etc.

But I've yelled this so much, I tire of it. Someone post Rollo's plate spinning essay, or better yet, his oneitis essay.

You probably won't listen to me, you probably won't read the DJ Bible, you probably won't read Rollo's essays, you probably won't read the Hall of Fame articles off sosuave.com, you'll be stuck on this message board. But before you do anything, go to sosuave.COM and start reading the articles. If you don't, you won't ever get it.

west coaster gave you great advice, please take it.

 

[MatureDJ]

Guys commit suicide all the time over women; guys get in bar fights over trampy women who will be 500 pounds and b-tchy in the near future.

This reminds me of the movie "Officer and a Gentleman", in which the officer candidate (the one not played by Richard Gere) who killed himself because his local slut dumped him when he decided to quit the program (and yes, he had the uber-ubiquitous diamond ring with him, the one he swallowed in front of the motel clerk where he killed himself.) I mean, she was so much of a tramp, I don't think I would have paid to get it from her. :woo:

 

[Maxtro]

I have read the bible years ago and I have recently read many articles. Most of my time is spent reading stuff about seduction. I have tons of PUA books.

I just realized that I spent way too much time and energy focusing on a very small number of women. I thought I was above oneitis because it was more than one women. But I realize that it is possible to have oneitis feelings for several women.

I wonder how soon I should ask out a girl that I go to classes with. I wonder why I assumed that if I talked to a girl every day at class for months she would eventually end up wanting to go out with me. But I guess it's the opposite. The longer you know somebody the more awkward it is. If I actually made a move instead of trying to become their friends, then I would have gotten an answer much sooner. Then I would have moved on long ago. I guess that I felt I had a better chance of success if I took it slow.

I have an idea what to do differently next semester.

But I still worry. Considering that I first starting liking girls when I was about 12, I have had these feelings of loneliness for about 14 years. Thats a long time for those feelings to affect me. I hate the fact that I am getting older with so many things unchecked on my to-do list.

I see that I have more posts to attend to. I'll do the replies in a bit.

 

[STR8UP]

Ok I'm stuck then. How am I supposed to believe that I can live my life alone? As I have mentioned many times on this forum, I am 26 years old and I have never had a girlfriend. I've only kissed one girl and I've never had sex with somebody I had an interest in. I am alone and I am not happy.

You are in a tough position.

How can you know that you aren't missing anything if you have never experienced it in the first place?

Us older guys can sit here and tell you younger guys with little experience that it isn't all it's cracked up to be until we are blue in the face, but we are so deeply conditioned to believe that there is only ONE PATH to happiness in life that it's pretty much futile to even TRY to talk someone out of this mindset.

The best advice I can give is that you need to get whatever it is straightened out that is preventing you from forming relationships with women and get some experience under your belt. I don't think there is any other way to get this resolved......

 

[ketostix]

I wonder how soon I should ask out a girl that I go to classes with. I wonder why I assumed that if I talked to a girl every day at class for months she would eventually end up wanting to go out with me. But I guess it's the opposite. The longer you know somebody the more awkward it is. If I actually made a move instead of trying to become their friends, then I would have gotten an answer much sooner. Then I would have moved on long ago. I guess that I felt I had a better chance of success if I took it slow.

This is the answer to your question. You answered your own question. You now realize that attraction happens fast or not at all. You need to look for signs of attraction from the jump and if you're not getting them you have to go target to the next girl. You got to be bold and aggressive. Make your escalation move in the first or second time you talk to a girl.

Now, there's nothing wrong with talking to a girl who you can't close for an extended time for practice , but actually practice on her and don't worry about her responses, realizing she can't be "won" over. If you can make friends with these girls to hanging out with them at functions for social proof or for pivots that would be advantageous too.

I'm going to differ with a lot of people here and say 26 isn't that young and it's not going to get better by its self as you get older. Twenty-six is your prime. You need to act now, but not just work harder, work smarter too.

 

[Maxtro]

Dude, Maxtro, I had to do a double take reading your post and your age.

Dude, you are 26.

Twenty Six.

You have so MUCH LIFE AHEAD OF YOU!
God damn, boy!!!

I know that my life is only 1/4 over. But the past 26 years have not been good. I know it could have been much worse but it could much much better. I haven't had a "normal" life.

What are you doing whining and moping, is you crazy??!

Boy, you got rocks in yo head!

I probably am crazy. I have been diagnosed with depression and I was taking some medication for a while because of it. I've stopped about a year ago because I know the reasons for my depression and the only way to remove it is to fulfill the needs I have.

My suggestions for you:

What is your dream Job or career?

I don't have one. I have taken many interest tests and I got something like "don't care for" in every single field. I'm going to college to hopefully get a BS in Business and specialize in Information Systems. Being an IT guy is the only thing that I can imagine myself doing since I can kind of do it now. But I'm worried that it will be the wrong thing for me because when computer stuff doesn't go my way I get very angry. I don't have a backup plan.

What do you love in life?

I love nothing. Well besides women.

What is your passion?

None. I like computer stuff but I am definitely not passionate about it.

What is fun for you?

The only thing that is fun me, is watching anime. There is really nothing else that I enjoy doing, except for women. I am considering picking up a musical instrument. Just because it's totally different for me.

What challenges you physically,mentally, and spiritually?

I work out 3 times a week. I go to Jr.college and I absolutely hate math. Spiritually? I used to go to church every Sunday and I hated it so much. My grandmother finally released me from my commitment of having to go all the time because I lived with her.

If you could be an improved version of yourself, what wouldl you change??

An improved version of myself? I would change my height, looks, my confidence, my personality, my sense of humor. Basically everything about me.

What books do you want to read that will inspire you and inspire creativity?
Inspired from a book? The only books I'm reading now are the various PUA material.

What is your wildest fantasy or goal in life?

Wildest fantasy? Me and about 4 women. Goal? To be financially successful. To be happy. To have friends to have a woman(s)

How can you know that you aren't missing anything if you have never experienced it in the first place?

I have a pretty good idea of what I am missing. I hate it when I hear people talk about their boyfriend or girlfriend. I hate it when I hear people talking about sex. I hate it when their are relationships or romance on tv/movies. I hate it that there is nothing for me at home when I get off school. I hate it that I only talk to women in class and the conversations are so basic. I hate it that the only people that care for me is my family. I hate the boring repetition that is my life. I know that when I get a girl my life will completely change.

The best advice I can give is that you need to get whatever it is straightened out that is preventing you from forming relationships with women and get some experience under your belt. I don't think there is any other way to get this resolved......

And this is where I am at. The fvcking catch 22. You can't get a girl if you aren't happy and you can't be happy without a girl. I need to get some positive experience but I keep failing, over and over.

The main reasons that I am unhappy. I'm single, I have no money, I have no friends, I live with my grandmother. Unfortunately the primary why I am unhappy seems to be the last one that I can fix. I just need to somehow hang in there until I can go to a university and get out of my living situation. Getting a job isn't that hard but this one stupid place has been leading me on. Telling me when orientation is. Talking about which departments have openings and even having me take a drug test before they even said I was hired. At least they had the nerve to call me and tell me that they screwed up by having me do those things first.

But still, as long as I am single I feel that I am missing out on life. I'm 26 and there are people 8 years younger than me who have done so much more things with women then I have. Thats probably the reason why I am only interested in the younger girls. And they still have had more "life experience" then me.

 

[Maxtro]

This is the answer to your question. You answered your own question. You now realize that attraction happens fast or not at all. You need to look for signs of attraction from the jump and if you're not getting them you have to go target to the next girl. You got to be bold and aggressive. Make your escalation move in the first or second time you talk to a girl.

That is actually what I did with the girl that I was posting several threads about in the general forums. I actually asked her out the third time I talked to her. We had our date shortly after. Even though she has since dropped all communication with me it did give me some ideas.

Now, there's nothing wrong with talking to a girl who you can't close for an extended time for practice , but actually practice on her and don't worry about her responses, realizing she can't be "won" over. If you can make friends with these girls to hanging out with them at functions for social proof or for pivots that would be advantageous too.

Actually I do remember why I was talking to those girls for so long. I knew they were in relationships and I was/am waiting for those relationships to end. I'm hoping to be the right guy at the right place/time. I realize how stupid it sounds. But these girls are so hot. The one I want the most has a personality that is so compatible to mine.

How do I make friends with girls? The only chick "friends" I have had were coworkers, whom I saw several times a week and we were able to talk for long periods of time with each other. While in school I can only talk for about 5 minutes before the class starts and maybe a bit longer if I walk with them out of class. But I need to make the extra effort in getting them to slow down or else they scurry away before I can say anything. Ugh, I hate women.

I'm going to differ with a lot of people here and say 26 isn't that young and it's not going to get better by its self as you get older. Twenty-six is your prime. You need to act now, but not just work harder, work smarter too.

Compared to men in their 40's I'm young. Compared to people 18-20 I'm old. This may be my prime but is certainly doesn't feel like it. And yes I need to work harder and smarter.

 

[Maxtro]

I don't agree with any of this.

1.) He never said he wanted to be with one woman and that's it. Even if he did say that, it's a lie since we're programmed to spead our sperm.

2.) He said he wanted a girlfriend/dates, he wants experience with women, sex and to feel normal. It is IMPOSSIBLE to genuinely feel normal if you aren't mixing with women on some sort of frequency. Show me a guy who is.

Thank you MM

I don't believe that I ever said I want to be with one women in a LTR thing. Yes I was/am upset that I haven't been in a single LTR yet. As that is unnatural for a person my age. Hell I've only ever "dated" one person and she was a fat girl and she dumped me after two weeks and we never did it. Yes the only woman I've ever kissed was a fat girl :crazy:

What I would really love to do is consistently date 3-4 women and do what I want with them. Right now I would be truly happy if I could have one hour of quality time everyday doing whatever with a girl. I don't care if it was sex, karaoke or playing poker. I want more girl time.

3.) Reading doesn't really help that much on it's own. Going out on in the field, looking at where you went wrong/right, then reading a bit on where to improve regarding given errors is much better. Most of the stuff is philosophical drivel and has little bearing when you see that HB and need to approach and game her.

Right now I have way too much reading done. Far too much time sitting at my desk reading my monitor. I need much more experience. I am annoyed that when I get some experience and I come here asking for feedback I get ignored. I still have no idea where I went wrong with the girl in this thread. I got zero replies.

4.) 25 dates out of 50 approaches? That's BS, like most stuff people spew on here. (Unless they're ugly as hell)

I don't know if that number is high or low. I haven't dated much...

5.) He isn't too young to be worried about loneliness. He already IS lonely and hasn't had experience. By age 26, I'd say it's important to have some and gain some. There's no point playing the "Ohh well I'm young, no worried" card. That's the same card people play at any age ... and don't get laid.

MM

I was feeling lonely at 15. Yeah age has no factor in that. I am slowly getting some experience. If I don't worry, then I won't act. If I don't act then there is no point in going on.

 

[aliasguy]

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Dude, you just need to get laid.

Really. With a woman that YOU approach because YOU are attracted to her, and she "likes" you back, and the two of you go home and knock off a chunk.

THAT's what you want, right?


Enough of all this talk.

Get off your ass and approach. Over and over and over, until you are able to do it right, get what you want, and then do it again with another woman.


And then again. And again. And you STILL won't be safe yet. You are like many of us. Too emotional, WAY too much of a p*ssy. I know, man, I used to be there. You have to butch up. And the only way to do it is VOLUME.

You have to -----> talk to, hit on, get rejected by, f*ck, abuse, fall in love with, reject, get rejected by, ignore, be ignored by, flirt with, make fun of, laugh with, interact with, kiss, spank, eat with, laugh with, argue with ------> MANY more women before you are "ready."

You're not "ready." You have a lot of work to do. And it 's all about INTERACTION. Not DREAMING about women, not WANTING women, not THINKING about women. But spending time with them, interacting with them.

Did you ever see "Ferris Beuler's day off."? There's this thing where Ferris's friend is all weepy. FB says something like: "This guy's a real p*ssy, and he's gonna fall for and marry the first girl that ever gives him any sex." This quote is not exactly what he said in the movie, but correct in spirit.

You are gonna get screwed over BIG time in life if you don't get your sh*t together, man. You are Ferris Beuler's pathetic friend. And you don't HAVE to be. LISTEN to the folks on this site. Do what it takes.

Sitting at home watching anime and READING pua stuff ain't gonna do it.

Get off your ass, man. Go out there.

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[Bible_Belt]

talk to, hit on, get rejected by, f*ck, abuse, fall in love with, reject, get rejected by, ignore, be ignored by, flirt with, make fun of, laugh with, interact with, kiss, spank, eat with, laugh with, argue with

That's living. Now get busy, Maxtro!

 

[Maxtro]

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Dude, you just need to get laid.

Really. With a woman that YOU approach because YOU are attracted to her, and she "likes" you back, and the two of you go home and knock off a chunk.

THAT's what you want, right?

Yup. Somehow I haven't done that yet. Heh I wonder if I have some curse on me. Something that tells all women to stay away.

Enough of all this talk.

Get off your ass and approach. Over and over and over, until you are able to do it right, get what you want, and then do it again with another woman.


And then again. And again. And you STILL won't be safe yet. You are like many of us. Too emotional, WAY too much of a p*ssy. I know, man, I used to be there. You have to butch up. And the only way to do it is VOLUME.

Yeah I need to talk to and try to close many more women. There is no other way around it.

You have to -----> talk to, hit on, get rejected by, f*ck, abuse, fall in love with, reject, get rejected by, ignore, be ignored by, flirt with, make fun of, laugh with, interact with, kiss, spank, eat with, laugh with, argue with ------> MANY more women before you are "ready."

Hell I haven't even got that far with one woman yet. Those are the things that I'm missing, the positives and negatives. That is life.

You're not "ready." You have a lot of work to do. And it 's all about INTERACTION. Not DREAMING about women, not WANTING women, not THINKING about women. But spending time with them, interacting with them.

This is what I keep talking about. I don't interact with women. On average I interact with women maybe 30 minutes combined spread across different girls (10 minutes one girl, 10 the next and 10 the next) three times a week and I hate it. I hate coming home to nothing and knowing that I'll have to wait till the next time I'm in class to interact with girls and then it will only last for a few minutes.

Did you ever see "Ferris Beuler's day off."? There's this thing where Ferris's friend is all weepy. FB says something like: "This guy's a real p*ssy, and he's gonna fall for and marry the first girl that ever gives him any sex." This quote is not exactly what he said in the movie, but correct in spirit.

You are gonna get screwed over BIG time in life if you don't get your sh*t together, man. You are Ferris Beuler's pathetic friend. And you don't HAVE to be. LISTEN to the folks on this site. Do what it takes.

I don't think I'm that bad. I almost had sex with a fat girl and there was no way I was going to fall in love with her. I was only going to do her for a tiny ego boost so I can move on to smaller and better women I'm tired of falling for girls and the only thing I want from women now is company and sex. I don't want to have a LTR until I've dated a lot of women.

Sitting at home watching anime and READING pua stuff ain't gonna do it.

Get off your ass, man. Go out there.

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Yeah I need to get out of my house and do more stuff, be where women are. And actually talk to and hit on them.

 

[mrRuckus]

Yeah I need to get out of my house and do more stuff, be where women are. And actually talk to and hit on them.

So. Um. Go. stop posting

 

[persiangino]

Maxtro, your continuous negative thoughts are acting like a disease paralyzing you from a better life. You need to forget about the past and focus on now, now is the time to think positive, now is the time to evolve into the person you want to be.

Let's put things into perspective. Half of the world we're living in live under 2 dollars a day, so many people dying from starvation, disease, poverty, war, etc. You have nothing to complain about compared to 80% of the world . Go live life.

 

[Maxtro]

So. Um. Go. stop posting

You do realize that you bumped a thread where the last post was two days ago?