Advice: How do I seduce my chiropractor?

[characternote]

I guess it depends on whose version of 'attraction material' you believe in. If she's attracted, she can be seduced easily.
If she finds you good looking (she's attracted), it should be easy.

If she doesn't? Hmm....then you are free to try various models of attraction building (depending on the guru)
Try negs and DHV stories as per mysterymethod to see if that works
Or try self amusement and state transference as per RSD
Or just go super direct and hope that the act itself of showing intent does the job of attraction as per mode1 or mark manson and a few others
Or use NLP seduction patterns on her as per Ross Jefferies
Or try using cold reads and teases as per the London Daygame model

You get the idea. Will it work if she's not physically attracted to you? The jury's out. People online certainly claim so, but infields don't seem to back the argument very well

I sometimes think there will be a point where all threads on PUA forums will be about attraction and what is/isn't possible. It's almost going that way on seddit nowadays infact lol

 

[Modern Man Advice]

//UPDATE//

So I just got back from my appointment. It went well and started off great with a bunch of chatting while she worked on me. Vibe was relaxed and friendly.

Fast forward to the end of the appointment, she asks me what I am getting up to this week and I say just the usual with studies and training.
I ask her in turn what her week is like and she said neither here nor there with bookings and such. Meanwhile, I am busy putting on my shoes and casually ask her "Well when you get off work, let's maybe grab drinks". She was surprised and I could see she was grinning underneath her mask. She said, "You are VERY bold!". I said, "you gotta be bold, fortune favours the bold". She says something like "But you know I'm a lot older than you." I say "Oh and how much is that? You're 27 right? Age is but a number." She said, "I wish guys my age were as bold as you." I say with a smile under my mask, "Well it must suck to date guys your age... So how's Wednesday?"

And then she politely shoots me down. "I don't date my patients." I say "Oh coz your words to me last time was to let you know if I wanted to see you again" (Just me being ****y, I know it was for appointments). "Well, that was for an appointment", she says. I say "OK, well thank you for today." I proceed to pay for the consultation and start to leave. When leaving she says "Let me know if you need to make a booking" to which I respond "We'll see." (My polite way of saying sorry, I don't think so).

I say thanks, give her a hug, and say goodbye.

I'd like to say that I take this as a win. I shot my shot and that's really all that matters. I'm happy I asked and not phased she shot me down (it's all part of the process).

Gents, thank you for all the advice.
Please feel free to give feedback on the above and how I handled things.

It is a win. You had the cojones to ask her out. And be smooth about it. I would have still acknowledged it was unusual as it is a professional setting just so she knows it is out of the norm and you are socially aware.

I wouldn't have necessarily stated "Oh coz your words to me last time was to let you know if I wanted to see you again" but overall you played it cool and unfazed by her rejection. I still don't think she rejected you personally, I think it's more of a professional thing she has to do AT work. I am absolutely certain that if you cross paths outside her work or get her number, she won't hesitate to get a drink.

Either way, this is the way to build real confidence and perfect your "game" whatever that means to you.

At the end of the day, she will respect you for trying and not shying away from opportunities or things you want in life.

Much respect,
Modern Man Advice

 

[timmyroni]

Put the 22yo little wee-wee back in your pants. There is nothing here. There was nothing flirty. She was just being a professional as a "Doc" and making the patient feel comfortable and relaxed.

Naw, she was doing more than that. She was using her sexual appeal to milk him for another appointment and more $$.

I stated repeatedly she is leading him on because she sensed his sexual inexperience and naivete, and is STILL DOING SO.

Asking a woman out is not a problem. But "practicing" repeatedly on a captive audience of women who are paid to be nice to you stunts his development. He'll always find "IOI's" where none exists leading to confusion and constant frustration.

Case in point, in his own words (notice how he now claims he knew she was leading him on all along when he actually claimed she was flirting with him):

And then she politely shoots me down. "I don't date my patients." I say "Oh coz your words to me last time was to let you know if I wanted to see you again" (Just me being ****y, I know it was for appointments). "Well, that was for an appointment", she says. I say "OK, well thank you for today." I proceed to pay for the consultation and start to leave. When leaving she says "Let me know if you need to make a booking" to which I respond "We'll see." (My polite way of saying sorry, I don't think so).

I say thanks, give her a hug, and say goodbye.

I agree that asking her out was a good idea. Make your move, get some feedback. (Forcing the hug was tacky. She rejected you, you rejected her, move on. This is a part of understanding and respecting boundaries.)

No, she has no intention of dating him. You are just as naive as the guy you are "advising." BTW, he already has her cell number.

No, he is not building "real confidence" for the reasons already stated. He is gaming a captive audience where the women are forced not only to be polite but are financially incentivized to lead men on to make more money.

The only way for him to build real confidence is to develop social skills with people who aren't paid for their services. This doesn't mean cold approaching necessarily, it also means making friends, professional contacts, school contacts, etc. in addition to "gaming women."

And no, she doesn't respect him for trying. She is pissed that she didn't get a third useless appointment from him! That's why she allowed the hug, hoping he'd get sexually aroused enough to return for a third shot.

OP, forget MMA. He is playing the same game on you as your chiro, whispering sweet nothings in your ear and leading you on. Chances are, he's just as sexually inexperienced as you are, if not more so.

It is a win. You had the cojones to ask her out

I am absolutely certain that if you cross paths outside her work or get her number, she won't hesitate to get a drink.

Either way, this is the way to build real confidence...she will respect you for trying

 

[Knight of Roses]

//UPDATE//

So I just got back from my appointment. It went well and started off great with a bunch of chatting while she worked on me. Vibe was relaxed and friendly.

Fast forward to the end of the appointment, she asks me what I am getting up to this week and I say just the usual with studies and training.
I ask her in turn what her week is like and she said neither here nor there with bookings and such. Meanwhile, I am busy putting on my shoes and casually ask her "Well when you get off work, let's maybe grab drinks". She was surprised and I could see she was grinning underneath her mask. She said, "You are VERY bold!". I said, "you gotta be bold, fortune favours the bold". She says something like "But you know I'm a lot older than you." I say "Oh and how much is that? You're 27 right? Age is but a number." She said, "I wish guys my age were as bold as you." I say with a smile under my mask, "Well it must suck to date guys your age... So how's Wednesday?"

And then she politely shoots me down. "I don't date my patients." I say "Oh coz your words to me last time was to let you know if I wanted to see you again" (Just me being ****y, I know it was for appointments). "Well, that was for an appointment", she says. I say "OK, well thank you for today." I proceed to pay for the consultation and start to leave. When leaving she says "Let me know if you need to make a booking" to which I respond "We'll see." (My polite way of saying sorry, I don't think so).

I say thanks, give her a hug, and say goodbye.

I'd like to say that I take this as a win. I shot my shot and that's really all that matters. I'm happy I asked and not phased she shot me down (it's all part of the process).

Gents, thank you for all the advice.
Please feel free to give feedback on the above and how I handled things.

For the future, I think you could have avoided the interaction of the last paragraph. It kinda made you seem a bit needy and to the point that you were upset she rejected you. It comes with practice. Its not all lost though. If she does good work, go see her a few more times.

Then stop going, hit her up a few weeks after with the line that you are not her patient anymore and ask her out again. See if that works. IF she still says no, then its likely not to happen.

 

[Don Dark Horse]

It is a win. You had the cojones to ask her out. And be smooth about it. I would have still acknowledged it was unusual as it is a professional setting just so she knows it is out of the norm and you are socially aware.

I wouldn't have necessarily stated "Oh coz your words to me last time was to let you know if I wanted to see you again" but overall you played it cool and unfazed by her rejection. I still don't think she rejected you personally, I think it's more of a professional thing she has to do AT work. I am absolutely certain that if you cross paths outside her work or get her number, she won't hesitate to get a drink.

Either way, this is the way to build real confidence and perfect your "game" whatever that means to you.

At the end of the day, she will respect you for trying and not shying away from opportunities or things you want in life.

Much respect,
Modern Man Advice

Thanks, G. I'll be sure to keep that all in mind. If I ever spot her outside of work then I'll see it leads.

 

[Don Dark Horse]

For the future, I think you could have avoided the interaction of the last paragraph. It kinda made you seem a bit needy and to the point that you were upset she rejected you. It comes with practice. Its not all lost though. If she does good work, go see her a few more times.

Then stop going, hit her up a few weeks after with the line that you are not her patient anymore and ask her out again. See if that works. IF she still says no, then its likely not to happen.

Well if I need the chiro again, how would it seem if I just booked with the other Doc at the practice? When I was originally trying to book an appointment with the other Doc, she was out on holiday. Hence, the one I asked for drinks was recommended to me by that other Doc. (Note, it would also be a fresh start since I had never booked with that other one before.) That would pretty much send the message, "Hey I'm not your patient anymore."

 

[timmyroni]

That would pretty much send the message, "Hey I'm not your patient anymore."

 

[andreihaha]

Well if I need the chiro again, how would it seem if I just booked with the other Doc at the practice? When I was originally trying to book an appointment with the other Doc, she was out on holiday. Hence, the one I asked for drinks was recommended to me by that other Doc. (Note, it would also be a fresh start since I had never booked with that other one before.) That would pretty much send the message, "Hey I'm not your patient anymore."

Would be good for professional reasons, if you still need it.
But you should forget about the chick. You say you don't care, but your actions say something else. You can do better than one who's not interested enough.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

The long game isn't bad, sounds like you have enough options to play it effectively

 

[timmyroni]

This boy's thirstier than a marathon runner in the mojave desert.

He says he's got no interest in her besides a quick pump and dump yet he's spending every second of his waking day obsessively scheming about how to stalk her and terrify her and her colleague.

Dude, get over it, you're being pathetic.

 

[corrector]

//UPDATE//

So I just got back from my appointment. It went well and started off great with a bunch of chatting while she worked on me. Vibe was relaxed and friendly.

Fast forward to the end of the appointment, she asks me what I am getting up to this week and I say just the usual with studies and training.
I ask her in turn what her week is like and she said neither here nor there with bookings and such. Meanwhile, I am busy putting on my shoes and casually ask her "Well when you get off work, let's maybe grab drinks". She was surprised and I could see she was grinning underneath her mask. She said, "You are VERY bold!". I said, "you gotta be bold, fortune favours the bold". She says something like "But you know I'm a lot older than you." I say "Oh and how much is that? You're 27 right? Age is but a number." She said, "I wish guys my age were as bold as you." I say with a smile under my mask, "Well it must suck to date guys your age... So how's Wednesday?"

And then she politely shoots me down. "I don't date my patients." I say "Oh coz your words to me last time was to let you know if I wanted to see you again" (Just me being ****y, I know it was for appointments). "Well, that was for an appointment", she says. I say "OK, well thank you for today." I proceed to pay for the consultation and start to leave. When leaving she says "Let me know if you need to make a booking" to which I respond "We'll see." (My polite way of saying sorry, I don't think so).

I say thanks, give her a hug, and say goodbye.

I'd like to say that I take this as a win. I shot my shot and that's really all that matters. I'm happy I asked and not phased she shot me down (it's all part of the process).

Gents, thank you for all the advice.
Please feel free to give feedback on the above and how I handled things.

You did folliow my advice and hugged her.

How was the hug? Were you able to squeeze her good or was it clinical? Keep hugging her up next time you see her and kiss her cheek next time. Keep escalating that hug gradually and press the boundary on it subtly. Also see if she will do a selfie with you.

You planted the seed by asking her out. Now she knows you like her and still hugged you anyway. Now you have to water the seed over time. Show you are unphased and interpret that you just caught her off guard and she was not ready for that out of the blue.

 

[2Rocky]

• Niles : You don't realize how desperate I am. Ever since our separation, I've been paying women to touch me.
  Frasier : Oh, Niles...
  Niles : Manicurists, pedicurists, facialists. When you see a man who's well-groomed, you can bet he's not getting any.

 

[Glassguy]

I'd like to say that I take this as a win. I shot my shot and that's really all that matters. I'm happy I asked and not phased she shot me down (it's all part of the process).

You handled it just fine. There are thousands of other chiropractors out there, just go find another one.

She has your contact info through her practice if she changes her mind. Realize that any approach could result in a lay or rejection. It really doesnt matter because its a numbers game. The only ones getting laid are the ones not making moves.