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Ok so I've kinda been workin on this girl for a little now. We've been flirting a little bit and doing some kino here and there, but nothing really too great.

So I woke up this morning feeling kind of crappy and really tired. I guess I had planned on it being a kind of lame/depressing day. But then I saw this one kid that i fuking hate because of how ****y he is (maybe a little jealous..) and i just decided to get my attitude up and stop acting like a fuk face (guess it dosn't take much to motivate me). Anyways, that's besides the story, just of how i got to feel good. :up:

So back to the chick, today was kind of a monumental day I guess. I saw her after school at track and we basically immediately hit it up. I was flirting with her and would call her ugly as I initiated kino, and then would say maybe she's kind of cute as i walked away/stopped. So it was really cold outside so we basically were cuddling/hugging/getting close to eachother 'for warmth' and i was purposely pressing my d!ck up against her (99% sure it was her vag). She didn't flinch/move/seem to really even notice (maybe she didn't, but I don't see how you couldn't haha) So yeah I was cracking jokes left n' right and we really couldn't stop laughing, and I set up that we should go get something to eat after school/during our track meet on Wednesday.
After track more of the same non-stop laughing/joking, then we went to my locker. I didn't feel like going to the b-room to change so I just changed in the hall (took off my shorts/shirt & put on my jeans/street shirt). When I took off my pants she kind of turned to the side but I could tell she was looking a lil. When I took off my shirt we were talking and she was facing me and she kept looking down at my abs a bunch.
After, we took the train to our respective buss stops (not having that much kino along the way), had a good time on the train, then huged, and departed.

So anyways, any comments/advice on how I did? Also, any advice on how to keep moving forward/advancing things/what is the next steps and action I should do?

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Seems to me like you did pretty good.

One thing I'd like to point out: Be careful when you call girls ugly. Even if it is completely joking, your skating on thin ice with that one because some girls will still take bigtime offense, even if you totally meant it as a joke/neg hit. Its like making jokes to a girl about her being fat. Some girls will laugh and take the neg hit/joke really great, others will get extremely offended.

Other than that you should be in the clear. Shes definitely interested, so its just a matter of you pulling the trigger. And I think you're definitely better off going with a movie date or something rather than a dinner date because it'll be wayyy easier to hook up with a movie date. Its not a huge deal at all, and its all up to you, but I personally find movie dates to be wayyy easier to get ass than any dinner/lunch date.

Have fun!
 

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eaglez1177 said:
Seems to me like you did pretty good.

One thing I'd like to point out: Be careful when you call girls ugly. Even if it is completely joking, your skating on thin ice with that one because some girls will still take bigtime offense, even if you totally meant it as a joke/neg hit. Its like making jokes to a girl about her being fat. Some girls will laugh and take the neg hit/joke really great, others will get extremely offended.

Other than that you should be in the clear. Shes definitely interested, so its just a matter of you pulling the trigger. And I think you're definitely better off going with a movie date or something rather than a dinner date because it'll be wayyy easier to hook up with a movie date. Its not a huge deal at all, and its all up to you, but I personally find movie dates to be wayyy easier to get ass than any dinner/lunch date.

Have fun!
Thanks :)

And yeah about the ugly thing, I kind of understand that. I never call a girl fat because i think that its a little too far/has way to much potential to blow up in your face or get them mad, even if they laugh. So because of that, I chose to call her ugly haha. She seemed to take it as a joke though because she responded by calling me names, specifically, fat.

As for the date thing, for this wensday I wasn't really planning on it being a real date/hook up thing, but maybe just a time to hang out/charm her a little bit More and have fun. The specific place I said was Mocasalsa (which is right next to my school), I think i said that because we had mentioned it earlier in the convo. If you don't know, it's kind of a little quick Mexican place, not really sit down, so it's not that great for a date haha. Anyways, what do you think about this? I was planning on maybe setting up a real/movie date (or possibly bowling [sounds easier to me haha]) during the weekend or even the next weekend. I don't want to stretch it out too far until the date though in case of losing interest. This was also the first day that we really hit it off big/had a lot of fun/lots of kino and I maybe want to give it a little time to develop more.
Yay or nay?

(also, out of curiosity, you think she noticed the d1ck press thing?)
Thanks eagz
 
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Thanks :)

And yeah about the ugly thing, I kind of understand that. I never call a girl fat because i think that its a little too far/has way to much potential to blow up in your face or get them mad, even if they laugh. So because of that, I chose to call her ugly haha. She seemed to take it as a joke though because she responded by calling me names, specifically, fat.

As for the date thing, for this wensday I wasn't really planning on it being a real date/hook up thing, but maybe just a time to hang out/charm her a little bit More and have fun. The specific place I said was Mocasalsa (which is right next to my school), I think i said that because we had mentioned it earlier in the convo. If you don't know, it's kind of a little quick Mexican place, not really sit down, so it's not that great for a date haha. Anyways, what do you think about this? I was planning on maybe setting up a real/movie date (or possibly bowling [sounds easier to me haha]) during the weekend or even the next weekend. I don't want to stretch it out too far until the date though in case of losing interest. This was also the first day that we really hit it off big/had a lot of fun/lots of kino and I maybe want to give it a little time to develop more.
Yay or nay?

(also, out of curiosity, you think she noticed the d1ck press thing?)
Thanks eagz
Well like I said, the date is all up to you. You seem to be very comfortable with this chick and that you both hit it off very well so anywhere the two of you go im sure you'll both have fun. I was just suggesting the movie date from my own experiences because its been easy ass for me.

I also suggested the movie date because imo I think its important for a guy to get a hookup on the first date. Some may disagree with me, but im telling you that it will really up the attraction level between the two of you if you kiss on the first date. I've always told people that its much better to get the kiss sooner than later. Its always worked great for me, and can usually make things a lot easier when I want to escalate further on the second date.

That being said, your date idea still seems perfectly fine. I'd recommend going for the hookup, but its all is up to you, (like maybe when you two are done eating and you take her home you can kiss her. Maybe when ur done eating you walk around a bit and then kiss her. Anythin really lol). Based off her level of interest in you, I think you can easily get the hookup.

And yes, I think she absolutely noticed the d*ck thing. Many people here on SS have always told guys to "always assume attraction", meaning always assume shes interested in you, always assume shes giving you IOIs, and in this case, id definitely assume that she felt your d*ck.
 

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haha yeah assuming the IOIs is something i've been working on, and it really helps. (actually lol what does IOI stand for? [i've always assumed it had something to do with attraction or interaction])

Also, i don't know why i'm putting this, maybe just to say it but yeah. There's also this other guy that she hangs out with a lot etc. and totally seems like they're dating, there's even a facebook group about it haha. She even has him + her pic as her background pic on her phone. Now, it's not like im going to let this guy stutter my game because im very confident that they're not going out. I'm pretty sure he waited to long to make a move or something and is friend zoned (although he did show me a pic she sent him of her in bra/panties, which is really uncharacteristic of her). Anyways, maybe my q is, how do i find out for sure if they're into something, or do I even care? Not really. Even so, should i straight up ask her, or next weekend when i give her the line of im going to the movies you should come with (or whatever, something like it), should I say, (as were there) so Luke is ok with this then? idk..Not like im trippin over it but maybe its a slight concern.
 

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haha yeah assuming the IOIs is something i've been working on, and it really helps. (actually lol what does IOI stand for? [i've always assumed it had something to do with attraction or interaction])

Also, i don't know why i'm putting this, maybe just to say it but yeah. There's also this other guy that she hangs out with a lot etc. and totally seems like they're dating, there's even a facebook group about it haha. She even has him + her pic as her background pic on her phone. Now, it's not like im going to let this guy stutter my game because im very confident that they're not going out. I'm pretty sure he waited to long to make a move or something and is friend zoned (although he did show me a pic she sent him of her in bra/panties, which is really uncharacteristic of her). Anyways, maybe my q is, how do i find out for sure if they're into something, or do I even care? Not really. Even so, should i straight up ask her, or next weekend when i give her the line of im going to the movies you should come with (or whatever, something like it), should I say, (as were there) so Luke is ok with this then? idk..Not like im trippin over it but maybe its a slight concern.
IOI stands for indicator of interest

And do not let this guy affect you at all. You probably are right about him being friend zone'd, and so what about the pics she gave him. Id bet money hes never seen her in person like that.

That being said, you shouldnt care at all about this other guy and whether theyre going out or not. And NOOO, DO NOT say "is Luke ok with this then". Absolutely do NOT say that. Because that implies that theyre together/going out, not to mention that it shows to her that whatever is going on between her and Luke is affecting you. You should not give a sh*t about this kid Luke lol.
 

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haha can do.
I'll report back a lil later on how good this **** goes down
 

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haha can do.
I'll report back a lil later on how good this **** goes down
Ahhh
So kind of been feeling a little bit down so far this week. Just not the normal energetic self (which is why I am probably acting the way that i am/visa versa [read on and you'll get it]). But anyways, got some concerns, so here it is.

So about the chick this article is about, well I didn't talk to/see her the whole weekend. I also haven't really talked to her that much this week so far/have had limited kino. I just haven't seen her too much, such as in the halls and not at track on monday. Also, i felt she has maybe lost a little bit of interest, maybe idk. I am now thinking probably not, it just seems that way because we havn't talked that much this week, and because she hasn't thrown all her attention on me when we have talked...idk She seems to be flirting with a couple other guys a lot but maybe it just seems that way because we haven't talked that much. Like me + her + other guy were walking to the train today, she just seemed to be more interested in the other guy. Guess I need to step it up...

So I was planning on telling her tomorrow that we should go to the movies on friday, but now I'm not so sure. Then again, spring break is next week/maybe won't see her/the date will just keep being pushed back to ask her...so yeah.

Am I over examining things? Yes. Am I getting overly jealous for really no reason? Yes. Is rejection better than regret? Yes.

Like i said, i'm just over thinking this too much i think and now defiantly thinking i should do it. But idk, does anyone have some advice/comments to maybe help me out a lil.
 

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Ahhh
So kind of been feeling a little bit down so far this week. Just not the normal energetic self (which is why I am probably acting the way that i am/visa versa [read on and you'll get it]). But anyways, got some concerns, so here it is.

So about the chick this article is about, well I didn't talk to/see her the whole weekend. I also haven't really talked to her that much this week so far/have had limited kino. I just haven't seen her too much, such as in the halls and not at track on monday. Also, i fell she has maybe lost a little bit of interest, maybe idk.dont convince yourself this. Like many say on SS, "always assume shes interested". If you overanalyze things and psych yourself out that shes not interested, then its just gonna bring your game down. She seems to be flirting with a couple other guys a lot but maybe it just seems that way because we haven't talked that much.Of course she flirts with other guys. ALL girls do. Single or in a relationship, all girls will always flirt, talk to, or get with other guys. Thats just part of life, and something that you have to get used to. You're always gonna have competition, even if you're in a stable and good relationship, there will always be competition because girls are always looking for that "perfect" guy that they never truly find (in reality perfect guys dont exist)

So I was planning on telling her tomorrow that we should go to the movies, but now I'm not so sure.See!? This is what happens when you don't assume interest. You begin to doubt everything you do because you're not sure if the girl likes you back or not. Stop worrying about whether she's interested, and just know that YOU'RE interested and WILL get with her. Then again, spring break is next week/maybe won't see her/the date will just keep being pushed back to ask her...so yeah.Dont make excuses for yourself to push the date back or not ask her. Stop freaking out, stop overanalyzing, and just go back to what was working for you before. Act normally about things and you'll do just fine. If you want to hang out with her, THEN HANG OUT WITH HER! Nothing is holding you back from being a man and telling her you wanna go to the movies!

Am I over examining things? Yes. Am I getting overly jealous for really no reason? Yes. Is rejection better than regret? Yes. Good to see you understand things

Like i said, i'm just over thinking this too much i think and now defiantly thinking i should do it. But idk, does anyone have some advice/comments to maybe help me out a lil.
This should help
 

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Thanks Eagzz
Yeah you see, I mean I'm not stupid, I actually do see what I was doing wrong and for the most part, why I was doing it, which is why i wrote that stuff at the end. Of course, it's always nice/extremely helpful to hear it from someone else with more experience that gives good feedback. I had even decided really that I was going to do it anyways while writing the post(even though I was still on the edge), but seeing what you have to say just solidifies it.
Thanks a lot man, i'll tell you about it tomorrow or friday
 

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man plz tell her......i regret not telling this girl to hang out with me during spring break.......i think i lost my chance now.........,DONT LOSE YOURS!
 

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Mr.Freestyler19 said:
man plz tell her......i regret not telling this girl to hang out with me during spring break.......i think i lost my chance now.........,DONT LOSE YOURS!
Haha sorry to let you down man...but I didn't ask her.

Don't get mad though lol, it's not for the reason you think. I basically didn't see her at all today. The only time I saw her was during third period. She had a class and they were all out in the hall doing an activity and I happened to walk by. I stayed and chatted with her for a lil bit (like 10 mins) and got some good kino in tickling her and saying that I wasn't ticklish. Of course though, I didn't ask her there, it just didn't seem right, with the class all around and such/it just wasn't a good time. I was planning on seeing her after school though and taking the train with her, which is where I would ask her. Unfortunately, I figured out after school that I had to go to a lip sync practice for spirit bowl, so I never saw her. Tomorrow I guess ;o

Alas, all hope is not lost! I started talking and flirting with this girl in my health class on monday. Today I pulled the move and got her digits. She's probably like a 7, bad has big ol' titties, which is why I went after her haha. The convo to get the # went something like this.
Me > 'So spring break's coming up, what are you planing to do'
Her > 'Oh I don't know...maybe go to california, probably but I'm not sure'
Me > '(Make a few comments about how she's not sure and poke some fun at her)'
Her > (eventually...) 'Yeah so what are you doing?'
Me > 'Oh well, I thought I was hanging out with you! (though we never discussed it earlier ;o)'
Her > 'Oh yeah haha i guess, that would be cool, what like a date or something'
Me > '(stupidly ignore her, i should have made a witty comment) Yeah well let me get your number and i'll call you this weekend'
Her > 'Haha ok its Xxx-xxxx (makes some inside joke of ours)'

Basically ends there. So any comments/advice on this? How'd I do? The one thing i'm the most proud of out of this is the fact that I was basically fearless and completley calm. I didn't even think twice about asking her. It was a good feeling

Thanks guys
 

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man just remember rejection is better than regret.....
i just wish tht girl dont friendzone me for taking too long
 

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AlexLefty said:
Haha sorry to let you down man...but I didn't ask her.

Don't get mad though lol, it's not for the reason you think. I basically didn't see her at all today. The only time I saw her was during third period. She had a class and they were all out in the hall doing an activity and I happened to walk by. I stayed and chatted with her for a lil bit (like 10 mins) and got some good kino in tickling her and saying that I wasn't ticklish. Of course though, I didn't ask her there, it just didn't seem right, with the class all around and such/it just wasn't a good time.See you have to get to a point where you're comfortable in all situations with girls and comfortable saying whatever you like in these situations. To me, 10 minutes is PLENTY of time to simply tell a girl you wanna hang out with her. Who cares if theres other people there lol; I doubt theyre listening to your convo, and even if they were why would they care about you askin her out? Even if for some odd reason they did care, YOU shouldn't give a damn about what othrs think of you or your actions.

Trust me man, it takes such a huge weight off your chest when you finally stop caring about what others think of you and stop caring about how your actions/words may look or sound.
I was planning on seeing her after school though and taking the train with her, which is where I would ask her. Unfortunately, I figured out after school that I had to go to a lip sync practice for spirit bowl, so I never saw her. Tomorrow I guess ;o

Alas, all hope is not lost! I started talking and flirting with this girl in my health class on monday. Today I pulled the move and got her digits. She's probably like a 7, bad has big ol' titties, which is why I went after her haha. The convo to get the # went something like this.
Me > 'So spring break's coming up, what are you planing to do'
Her > 'Oh I don't know...maybe go to california, probably but I'm not sure'
Me > '(Make a few comments about how she's not sure and poke some fun at her)'
Her > (eventually...) 'Yeah so what are you doing?'
Me > 'Oh well, I thought I was hanging out with you! (though we never discussed it earlier ;o)'
Her > 'Oh yeah haha i guess, that would be cool, what like a date or something'
Me > '(stupidly ignore her, i should have made a witty comment)Lol dont worry about this. I think your worrying over some small stuff; its not a huge deal if you did or didnt come up with a witty response to what she said Yeah well let me get your number and i'll call you this weekend'
Her > 'Haha ok its Xxx-xxxx (makes some inside joke of ours)'

Basically ends there. So any comments/advice on this? How'd I do? The one thing i'm the most proud of out of this is the fact that I was basically fearless and completley calm. I didn't even think twice about asking her. It was a good feelinggood. thats great to here. I can tell your beginning to improve already. Things will become SOO much easier when everything becomes second nature and natural to you.

Thanks guys
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Thanks for the advice ;o

So, about the chick i was going to ask out today, and then didn't, it wasn't really fear or fear of others that didn't make me do it. Like I said with the girl who I got her # from, I wasn't even nervous or sacred. I even saw the chick in the hall after I got the other girls #, so my confidence was even boosted a little from getting the other girls number. (something that I forgot to mention was that part of the reason I think I wasn't nervous was because I didn't have any plan going in or anything, except for, get the number. so I basically winged it, and I think it worked out pretty well)

My point is, it wasn't so much me worrying about other people that didn't make me get her number, it was more about just setting up a better time I guess. Like I said, my plan was to ask her on the way to the train, so I really had no reason to deviate from my plan lol. (although, you are right to an extent, a little bit of timidness, even if like 2%, is still there)

Thanks for all your advice man
Also, you're right about the caring too much about little things. I think I really need to work on that. Since you mentioned it, I realized that yeah it really isn't that big of a deal lol. But I guess it's still good to post, so it points out my mistakes and I learn from them
 

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AlexLefty said:
Thanks for the advice ;o

So, about the chick i was going to ask out today, and then didn't, it wasn't really fear or fear of others that didn't make me do it. Like I said with the girl who I got her # from, I wasn't even nervous or sacred. I even saw the chick in the hall after I got the other girls #, so my confidence was even boosted a little from getting the other girls number. (something that I forgot to mention was that part of the reason I think I wasn't nervous was because I didn't have any plan going in or anything, except for, get the number. so I basically winged it, and I think it worked out pretty well)

My point is, it wasn't so much me worrying about other people that didn't make me get her number, it was more about just setting up a better time I guess. Like I said, my plan was to ask her on the way to the train, so I really had no reason to deviate from my plan lol. (although, you are right to an extent, a little bit of timidness, even if like 2%, is still there)

Thanks for all your advice man
Also, you're right about the caring too much about little things. I think I really need to work on that. Since you mentioned it, I realized that yeah it really isn't that big of a deal lol. But I guess it's still good to post, so it points out my mistakes and I learn from them
Notice how you "winged it" with getting that girls number, and didn't have a set plan. It all came naturally to you, and it worked out well. Now notice how you apparently had a "plan" to ask that other girl out on a date, and it didnt work out. I'll say this: when it comes to girls, things NEVER go as planned. Trust me. Thats why you're always best having no plan at all, but instead just being natural and doing things on the fly, or "wingin it". Once you start doing that more, you'll have less and less of a dependence on these ridiculous little "plans" and "scenarios" that always seem to go into a guy's mind. Things will start becoming more and more natural to you, and getting a number, gettin a date set up, or really anything, will all be second nature and you won't have to go through that whole "thinking process" beforehand.
 

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AlexLefty good stuff, I haven't been on much lately but I'll be keeping up with you. I'd recommend just keeping a "field reports" thread or a journal of sorts if you're updating a lot cuz it helped me tons.

And lol about not caring who's around when you when you talk to a girl, it's probably different if it's one of her parents right? The other day I was leaving this girl's house and her mom was talking to us and the girl said to me, "Sageproduct, will you play with me?" (some game) and I could have made an innuendo there but....hahhah
 

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Oh **** I just noticed AlexLefty used my thread for his sig.
Haha dope.
 
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