Adolescence Relationships

[AmsterdamAssassin]

in my gym i see many women that KEEP there ltr (spouse or other) away from the place while they enjoy attention.

When I retired and stayed at home to take care of my young children, I would exercise (in the park/swimming pool) by myself while my wife was at her work. I caught a lot of assumptions about my employment and relationships, even from people who should know better. And I assume I only heard some of the gossip, because I don't hang around to hear what people say about me.

Granted, I don't go to a gym, but who says the boyfriends/spouses of these women actually go to a (different) gym? Maybe they exercise in a different way. Or they work hard labour and don't need to go to the gym to stay fit.

If I see a woman jogging by herself in the park, I don't assume she's single, or that she left her boyfriend at home to enjoy attention from other men.

While I'm sure there are some women who will go out without their spouses/boyfriends to get attention and validation from men, I doubt if it's many women. Do you have any proof for your conclusions? Or are they just assumptions?

 

[plumber]

If I see a woman jogging by herself in the park, I don't assume she's single, or that she left her boyfriend at home to enjoy attention from other men.

While I'm sure there are some women who will go out without their spouses/boyfriends to get attention and validation from men, I doubt if it's many women. Do you have any proof for your conclusions? Or are they just assumptions?

Its always a good idea to give others some chance and look for the best in them instead of defaulting to negative. We should do that with both men and women.

Many vs some. We agree its some, but have the idea of many in question.

How are you sure that even some women do this? I assume you have seen it, and then make your conclusion, or did those that did actually verbally tell you that they are doing this?

Getting attention is a subjective thing that is easy to challenge.

Women and culture in the west and east now do this all the time. Dress and behave in ways that get sexually charged attention from men while officially just doing something else.

Another open question is if they do it on purpose or it just happens by default.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

How are you sure that even some women do this? I assume you have seen it, and then make your conclusion, or did those that did actually verbally tell you that they are doing this?

I counsel women with C-PTSD. Many of them have severe dark triad traits. This type of manipulation is child's play, they do way worse.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Women and culture in the west and east now do this all the time. Dress and behave in ways that get sexually charged attention from men while officially just doing something else.

Women have always been doing this.

Cleavage styles in the 17th-19th century

Cleavage styles have changed throughout the years. From pushing them up with corsets, binding the chest, to drawing on blue veins! This may seem strange but in another 100 years maybe the idea of boob tape could be equally as weird for future generations (if embracing the sag becomes popular)...

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[jhonny9546]

Realistically speaking a relationship lasts about 5/7 years tops. So either way you would/could've lost your high-school sweetheart at age 22. Quite a normal path: around age 30/35 most men will have had between 2 to 4 LTR's.

This is the hard truth.

But put yourself in the shoes of people who have not grown up in a place where this has been the norm for many years, where social groups are formed in this way, and therefore see family as a significant achievement in life.

In our generation—mine and my peers'—we are the first to witness this phenomenon. We are the ones with the "destroyed dream," the first to question what is wrong, and the first to learn about concepts like the blue pill and red pill. The others have lived in the dream; we must live in reality.

I am here to learn from those who already live that reality, from those who have had the opportunity to deal with it.

Most of my primary social circle is in relationships that are 8-15 years long at this point in time. These are married men who have had children at this point. Their relationships are still ongoing but the best days of these relationships are all in the past. Multiple married from this social circle have mentioned to me that they don't particularly enjoy the current state of their relationships and are not enjoying raising infants/toddlers right now.

Having a LTR and a LTR to make kids and build a family it's a totally different thing.
Do you also see exceptions or rarity? Say 1 couple on 10 in your circle is still there and loving after 20 or plus years, for some reasons. Those are the exceptions.

And yes, can confirm all you guys said before about how women monkeybranch when they start to feel their relationship its coming to an end