Action date activity seems to be working but HB not forthcoming

pete101

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I been doing these sports activities for a few months now tryna see if it is fruitful i was told on here sports isnt good because loads of guys do it.

I took up squash instead of basketball and arranged many meet ups with HB's.. some are suspicious why im meeting girls but i gave some excuse about injury needing to play women who hit less hard to protect my elbow.

Some are not on it, others are suspicious, some semi interested, some really interested.

One who was really interested asked me to go coffee with her after we met which gave me IOI's i sensed she liked me.

I suggested we go on a date and she said yes but rebuffed my cinema idea i said we can go to a nice bar instead she said we dont have to, i said i just want to play squash and have our coffee's whicj she agreed.

On friday she asked me to take her to my old college some time as she is an academic and gets excited by university campuses for some reason wants to use the library.

Long story short we went for a stroll after around the city landmarks quite romantic i wanted to get a hot drink as it was cold but the place i wanted was closed so ended up not getting anything we sat on the side by the river and made out when i tried to escalate she was like 'no i dont want this' when i started to kiss her neck and move my arms up her thighs. So i backed off.

Previously in the convo exchange the day before we were talking about the date arrangements i said wear comfortable shoes as we were going to do a bit of walking shw replies with 'comfortable shoes + clothes' i was irked by this.. i thought this is a date you know this is a date.. what's this comfortable clothes nonsense.

So i press her to dress skimpy and sexy another time she laughed and agreed but it kind of went wayward cos a few days prior wjen she was like squash and coffee was fine and we didnt need to go somewhere for a date i took it as we dont need to go on dates but we can do date stuff like kiss.. but maybe i interpreted wrong and she was friendzoning me.

Also what didnt help is wjen i picked her up by car she was giving me an attitude i was like I'll be there at 7 and she replied with 'and?' When it was 7.05pm i was stuck in traffic so was late to hers i didnt appreciate that tone.

So i was pretty stressed cos was late and had road rage and i couldnt talk and drive coherently at the same time.

We made out more and made out again when i dropped her home but i also didnt like how she was like 'enough' after 2-3 kisses.

Now to today i messaged her she smelt really good last night.. red flag one. I was due to play her at squash this wednesday so said to her to play at 5 she replied.. this was a test from me.. so i tested her again later saying we will go for our customary coffee beforehajd and fijd somewhere inside we can kiss some more. No reply or response she is usuallt very forthcoming witj replies so i dont like this exchange. Like she didnt even thank me for takiny her to my old college.

Basically im thinking of cancelling on her now as punishment. Say i wont have finished work in time etc.

I have so many other potential plates now it is difficult for me to get oneitis when im due to meet another HB in a couple days. This is what it is supposed to be like.

Is just cancelling on her and letting her stew on it best?

Im not letting her play squash with me yet not put out like im friend zoned. This is a package deal. They want to play squash with me as im really good and they wont get an opportunity to play someone so much better than them normally prob the reason why so many want to meet me.. some i guess are using me for lessons and my level others just like me so it is a mixed bag.

It is weird im getting all these options suddenly at tje samr time rven on dating apps i had nothing it is like they know im in demand now.

She wasnt forthcoming with my flirty messages told me to meet at the squash courts on tuesday.

I told her i cant do tuesday now

She asked why?

I ignored her WhatsApp message.

Basically it seems because she ignored my she smelt nice last night message i did the afc message of rewarding her bad behaviour by offering squash on tuesday when i shouldnt even test her i should take the non reply as avenue to dismiss her.

Im glad i ignored and cancelled on her now she doesn't deserve an answer why she knows why if she offers to meet for coffee again and kissing I should ignore that too unless she ups the ante invites me over to hers for sex?

I think just ignoring her more will just get her to block me. Tbh if she isnt gona put out why am i wasting anymore time on her.
 
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You need to entirely reframe your approach to game. You say "your old college" so I know you're at least in your mid-20s. On one hand, you should know better than this by now, but on the other hand, I know plenty of guys like this these days too...

I've got an entire journal in my signature that you can read if you wanna watch the process of me going from being absolute trash with women to being way more successful than a 28-year-old living at home should ever be...

I would say what helped me the most was approaching girls I found attractive to the point where I essentially became "immune" to rejection and was able to be relaxed and enjoy the interaction rather than shooting myself in the foot being nervous or depending too much on the outcome. You might benefit from something similar.

Also you don't have "plates" from your dating apps. You have girls who matched you that will stop replying or flake when it comes to actually getting contact info or going on dates. I consider myself quite attractive and I have plenty of problems with the big 3 dating apps; they are entirely supplementary and any positive meeting that results is a pleasant surprise.

Tinder > Bumble > Hinge in that order. Though Tinder is really the only one worth a damn and the others are just for loons that think they're gonna meet somebody of husband-material on an app.
 

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Honest opinion?

You need to entirely reframe your approach to game. You say "your old college" so I know you're at least in your mid-20s. On one hand, you should know better than this by now, but on the other hand, I know plenty of guys like this these days too...

I've got an entire journal in my signature that you can read if you wanna watch the process of me going from being absolute trash with women to being way more successful than a 28-year-old living at home should ever be...

I would say what helped me the most was approaching girls I found attractive to the point where I essentially became "immune" to rejection and was able to be relaxed and enjoy the interaction rather than shooting myself in the foot being nervous or depending too much on the outcome. You might benefit from something similar.

Also you don't have "plates" from your dating apps. You have girls who matched you that will stop replying or flake when it comes to actually getting contact info or going on dates. I consider myself quite attractive and I have plenty of problems with the big 3 dating apps; they are entirely supplementary and any positive meeting that results is a pleasant surprise.

Tinder > Bumble > Hinge in that order. Though Tinder is really the only one worth a damn and the others are just for loons that think they're gonna meet somebody of husband-material on an app.

I actually have dates arranged with the dating apps not just matches yeah maybe they'll flake but they seem more interested to meet than i am.

I just find it weird how i seem to be in demand now. It makes me feel more relaxed more cavalier as i dont care if i lose one i have another to replace easily.

Obviously it isnt ideal cos some may be using me for squash but some seem to be semi interested some overtl interested
 

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Honest opinion?

You need to entirely reframe your approach to game. You say "your old college" so I know you're at least in your mid-20s. On one hand, you should know better than this by now, but on the other hand, I know plenty of guys like this these days too...

I've got an entire journal in my signature that you can read if you wanna watch the process of me going from being absolute trash with women to being way more successful than a 28-year-old living at home should ever be...

I would say what helped me the most was approaching girls I found attractive to the point where I essentially became "immune" to rejection and was able to be relaxed and enjoy the interaction rather than shooting myself in the foot being nervous or depending too much on the outcome. You might benefit from something similar.

Also you don't have "plates" from your dating apps. You have girls who matched you that will stop replying or flake when it comes to actually getting contact info or going on dates. I consider myself quite attractive and I have plenty of problems with the big 3 dating apps; they are entirely supplementary and any positive meeting that results is a pleasant surprise.

Tinder > Bumble > Hinge in that order. Though Tinder is really the only one worth a damn and the others are just for loons that think they're gonna meet somebody of husband-material on an app.
Btw what is wrong with going back to my old college campus? Maybe im missing something here i just saw it as a cheap date doing me a favour allbeit it should revolve around drinks at a bar but i knew we would make out at some point i just needed the right time to pull the trigger

I think maybe she didnt like how i was being cheap not spending any money.

Anyway the point is i cancelled the squash meet up on wednesday cos she didnt respond to my flirty messages so is tryna just make it just about squash now like im gona accept that.

The only difference now it seems is i have leverage if they arent gona put out there's no more squash in their lives. The power imbalance is unique cos normally there isnt anything i have that makes them want to see me still.

Women have sex and withhold as and when, i have squash lol and they will be badly affected by not being able to come play like you would think it be easy for them to find someone else and maybe but not on my level

At some point she is gona try to reoffer the coffee before squash thing and im going to decline.

My pov at this point cos the stakes have been raised is unless she invites me over for sex then im not playing squash with her again and if she wants to keep me sweet she is gona have to put up or shut up.

The question is how do i do this whem she recontacts or presses me why i cant play with her anymore i dont need to give her an answer she can figure that out
 

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What you expect from ppl who play squash
Squash, racquetball, and tennis are good racquet sports. I dislike pickleball and refuse to play it. Pickleball is growing so fast thanks to a bunch of old fart Boomers.

Activity dates are ok, but most early stage dates are better as drinks in bars. There are a lot of reasons why activity dates aren't good first dates. Maybe they can be used as 2nd-3rd dates. It depends.

I've got an entire journal in my signature that you can read if you wanna watch the process of me going from being absolute trash with women to being way more successful than a 28-year-old living at home should ever be...
I have read parts of that thread and it is a solid thread. I recommend reading it.

I consider myself quite attractive and I have plenty of problems with the big 3 dating apps; they are entirely supplementary and any positive meeting that results is a pleasant surprise.

Tinder > Bumble > Hinge in that order. Though Tinder is really the only one worth a damn and the others are just for loons that think they're gonna meet somebody of husband-material on an app.
I had so many problems with the Big 3 dating apps that I decided to delete them all and focus on offline interactions. I'm also a better than average looking guy. I submitted some pics on an AI powered looks rating app last week and they were all rated between 6.8-7.5. I had previously considered myself a 7.

I prefer extended relationships so I have used both Bumble and Hinge. 30+ women who want relationships tend to use those 2 apps. In the early days of Tinder, you could find people who wanted extended relationships on it but those people eventually moved to Bumble and Hinge. You are correct that women who want relationships are better off trying to find relationships somewhere else besides Bumble or Hinge.

One of the 3 pregnancies that I mention in this thread was a marriage and pregnancy resulting from an Hinge interaction. I had actually tried to get with that woman at a party long before she met her future husband/forthcoming baby daddy on Hinge.

 
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