About to go ganji on her ass...

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Originally posted by Starman

with me..after about a month or two I REALLY lose interest..so it all works out..
Well to be honest I've been steadily losing interest anyways over the past month and a half or so - so I'm pretty much there anyways. After the last time we hung out (about a month ago) and she didn't put out I had resigned myself to the fact that I had been "friendzoned" and just chalked it up as a loss (also something told me she was still hung up on this other guy so again - just chalk it up as a loss). In the time since she has initiated EVERY single contact and I have not suggested we hang out at all (really - what's the point?).

I debated even going the "friends" route with her (asking myself what the pros and cons were) and there was a thread that floated around a couple of weeks ago in which the author's main point was that a true Don Juan wouldn't be phased by being "friendzoned" - and that he would just confidently move on to the next girl without feeling the need to burn any bridges.
So this is what I decided to do. Up until my last conversation with the girl I've had no real reasons to harbor any ill-will towards her -I may not be thrilled with the fact that she doesn't want to fvck but the girl has always been respectful and courteous. Who knows why I haven't been able to progress anywhere romantically (maybe she just doesn't "feel" it for me, maybe she's still hung up on this other dude, maybe this religion crap is legit, maybe she has emotional problems, maybe this, maybe that - who the fvck knows) - point is not to sweat it and to move on to the others that will give me what I want.
 

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Violator and Jay --

Glad to see that the GANJI has worked for you in the past. I am very interested to see how she reacts.

Originally posted by TesuqueRed
Ronin---a line from your original post jumped out at me (paraphrasing, I don't have time to quote it and delete 99/100's of it):

"I can't believe she has the nerve to patronize me like this..."

She has the nerve and plenty to spare. You were the AFC for so long and on every point (contrary to your self-image, you were...) that she can't help patronizing you. It's a natural response.

You could even say it's the appropriate response---hell, I do it to protect myself and establish a safe distance between me and a woman that is pursuing me but is clearly beneath my level---a female AFC, for example.

She demonstrates she is beneath my level by being too obvious, can't "play" (verbally spar with me, get my sense of humor, keep up with the conversation, pick up the subtext of conversations, etc.), she dresses like white-trash or a club wh0re, wants to give me everything to the point of being a servant---it goes on and on, that's just my personal list and isn't complete at that.

Point is--we've all been pursued by female AFCs and naturally tried to duck out of the way--you can't help it! This is what she's been doing to you. Perfectly normal---she couldn't help patronizing you.
Come on Tesuque! This post actually pisses me off a bit. Look I appreciate you taking the time to respond and all but really you jump to conclusions about things that you know very little about.

You were the AFC for so long and on every point

First off you really just have to suck my balls for making a statement like this - how the hell would you know? I don't have the time to go into every minute detail about how I acted with her, how many times I called, blah, blah or whatever other AFC-ometer there is. But to say that I acted AFC for so long and on every point is RIDICULOUS. I've been coming to this board for months now - I have learned some sh!t here and there - and besides that I know that I'm a fvcking hell of a catch and don't need to kiss a woman's ass (or otherwise act AFC) in an attempt to woo her.

In the 4 plus months that I have known her she has NEVER shown the slightest amount of disrespect. I can think of only one time when she didn't call when she said she would. While she is woman she rates pretty low on the flakiness scale as far as I'm concerned (which is one of the reasons why I have given her as much slack as I have).

...AFCs and naturally tried to duck out of the way

well her initiating EVERY single contact over the past month is a pretty interesting way to duck out of the way - don't you think?
Besides the pursuit ended a long time ago - she's just too stupid to realize it or doesn't want to accept it. It's been over a month since I've suggested that we see each other face to face. It's over - there's no reason for us to go out on another "date" - now if answering the phone when she calls and responding to her when she IM's me makes me "an AFC on every point" well I guess I am a flaming AFC to the core!

Now all that being said if you want me to guess why she all of a sudden got a big head with me- my guess is that it has to do with the fact that that same day this loser that she's been seeing on and off for a year (and who she recently cut contact with - because of "how he was treating her" ----ding,ding,ding,ding red flags abound!) had a dozen roses delivered to her house and went and talked to her best friend in an attempt to patch things up and probably otherwise engaged in a slew of AFC behaviors that swelled her head to the point that she thought she could get away with some patronizing bullsh!t with me. Damn that's a long sentence.
 
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GANGI UPDATE...

Well it's been ten days since I decided to pull the ganji maneuver on this one broad...

I actually screwed it up a little bit - she caught me signing on IM on Sunday (7 days deep into the gangi)...(I reinstalled AIM to talk to my bro but forgot to block her ass).

She IMed me saying "where you been?"

I just said busy and we had a VERY brief convo in which I cracked a couple of jokes about her "having had more humps than a herd of camels" and that she's "screwed more people than a politician in a wh0rehouse" and a couple others and then told her I had to go.

I then made sure to block her screenname.

So I'm thinking that blunder may have screwed up my little ganji experiment. Oh well.

Truth is at this point I really don't care anymore. My interest has faded quickly these past ten days.

I met a girl Sat nite who was all up on my sh!t - why am I going to bother at all with some broad who's not giving me what others are more than willing to. ;)
 

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Ganji update for those interested -

Well after a couple of weeks of no contact she finally called me (two nights ago) and left a message:

"Hi Ronin I this is HB10. I haven't talked to you in awhile and I haven't seen you online so I thought I would just give you a call and say hi and see what's up. OK? Maybe I'll talk to you soon. Ok take care, bye bye."

I don't even feel like calling her at this point. I have completely lost interest. I honestly can't even remember how long it's been since I last saw her.

Anyway if out of sheer boredom I decide I want to try and make something of this (not likely) - for those of you who have successfully pulled ganji maneuvers in the past - how would you take it from here? I am going away this weekend so I am thinking that maybe sometime next week I'll unblock her from IM and let her IM me and see what happens. If she suggests that we meet maybe I will just to see what happens.

I am actually surprised at how disinterested I am at this point. A few weeks ago I thought I really liked this girl.
 

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Originally posted by Ronin I

- I've been a good "friend" to this girl for a couple of months now and have made my intentions known - and gotten nowhere.
Ohhhhh boy....Dude for cryin out loud :eek:
 

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Originally posted by Starman

The kicker was I had a party one time and invited all her friends..and not her..she was super mad and even told some of the other girls in our group that "I am no longer friends with Starman"

I LOVE that! :D
 

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I have no idea what this "ganji" bullshyt is, but this is far simpler than you are trying to make it out to be. "Tactics" don't even come into play in this situation. Bottom Line--this girl has NO interest in you, and never did. Get over it.

And just because you fail to either possess or demonstrate to a girl your value, that doesn't make her a b!tch. The problem is with YOU, not her. To pretend that she is a b!tch is just being juvenile, and bitter--which I'm sure you'll remember is totally AFC.

Put yourself in her shoes. If you were being pursued by a girl you had no interest in, what would you do? You'd come up with every excuse you could to try and let her down softly and hope she gets the picture.

Her calling you was just her being "nice" to make sure you and her are still "friends". You'll never get her, so forget it and forget all these stupid tactics that don't work and will never work. If a girl has no interest, she has no interest. Deal with it and don't get childish and start calling her a ***** just because she doesn't want your dyck in her.

Jake
 

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Originally posted by Jake Steed
I have no idea what this "ganji" bullshyt is, but this is far simpler than you are trying to make it out to be. "Tactics" don't even come into play in this situation. Bottom Line--this girl has NO interest in you, and never did. Get over it.

And just because you fail to either possess or demonstrate to a girl your value, that doesn't make her a b!tch. The problem is with YOU, not her. To pretend that she is a b!tch is just being juvenile, and bitter--which I'm sure you'll remember is totally AFC.

Put yourself in her shoes. If you were being pursued by a girl you had no interest in, what would you do? You'd come up with every excuse you could to try and let her down softly and hope she gets the picture.

Her calling you was just her being "nice" to make sure you and her are still "friends". You'll never get her, so forget it and forget all these stupid tactics that don't work and will never work. If a girl has no interest, she has no interest. Deal with it and don't get childish and start calling her a ***** just because she doesn't want your dyck in her.

Jake
Dude what crawled up your ass and died?

This girl isn't a b!tch - she's actually a pretty nice girl (as girls go anyway).

She just pissed me off a few weeks with the way she was talking to me - came off as disrespectful - that's all. (I have a habit of calling all girls b!tches - you know - b!tches aint **** but hoes and tricks, gonna go out and get some b!tches tonight - maybe I listen to too much rap music). ;)

Oh and if I have no interest in a woman I tell her pretty explicitly. This letting her down softly crap usually justs strings things along makes things much, much worse.

As far as me "never getting her" well - first off never say never but in this case I agree b/c I have little to no interest in even trying anymore.

The "ganji bullshyt" was just an experiment -

Oh and lastly get off your fycking high horse stop fvcking preaching to me like you have a clue - if you want to disagree fine - no reason to be an a$$hole.
 

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Jake,

How do you know what her interest level is? are you good friends with her??

remember Interest falls on a continuum from VERY INTERESTED to NOT Interested AT ALL

Its not ONE or the other...

I have met alot of women who showed very little interest in me when we met..later as they got to know me..Their Interest Levels SHOT UP (so did their friends)

and dont tell me this NEVER happened to you??

and Ive even turned some LJBF's around in my favor
 

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"This girl isn't a b!tch - she's actually a pretty nice girl (as girls go anyway)."

Whatever. You said,

"I can't believe this b!tch has the nerve to patronize me like that." --Ronin

"This b!tch needs a fvckin' reality check.

so you tell me how I'm supposed to interpret this. I casually refer to b!tches as b!tches myself, but your entire post came across as frustrated and bitter. Just exactly how does she need a reality check? She doesn't like you, and you keep talking to her. Just what has SHE done to you (besides deny you of her puzzy and give it to someone else) to make you think she needs a reality check. YOU need a reality check. And that is--YOU are responsible for how this relationship was set up (no sex). YOU are responsible for your communication.

FACT: She has low interest in you. She has used many different excuses, even religion, to tell you she isn't interested.

FACT: You tried to play her low interest off like it was a character flaw.

"As far as me 'never getting her' well - first off never say never but in this case I agree"

Ok, so we agree that you won't get this girl. Then why are you arguing with me? I said what I said to point out to you that sometimes it is very simple. There is no need to overly complicate things by running "gangi patter X2000" or whatever. As soon as you start viewing women as RC cars or computers, you will fvck up your game intensely. Instead you need to understand their motivations on an EMOTIONAL level. I can see you at least subconsiously understand that what I say is true by the fact that you became intensely emotional over my comments.

Starman, I would hope you'd be more intuitive about this girl's actions. Look at her actions. You really think she's interested? Even if Ronin were to decide to work on her like a fvcking 8th grade science fair project, do you think it would be WORTH the extra work and effort just to CONVINCE her that she likes you? And even if you do somehow do it using the magical Gangi Method Dorkotron X2000, you've jumped through hoop #1. Congratulations. Now for hoops #2 through #2000.

If you want to pursue that which you won't get, that's your choice. Enjoy.

Jake
 

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so you tell me how I'm supposed to interpret this. I casually refer to b!tches as b!tches myself, but your entire post came across as frustrated and bitter.

True - when I posted those posts a few weeks ago I was pissed off - but there's a difference between being pissed off and being frustrated and bitter. Hell, your post got under my skin a little but that doesn't make me frustrated and bitter does it? The girl doesn't want to give me the puzzy - that's fine, it's her perogative - no big deal really - but when I think someone is patronizing me I do get pissed. Had nothing do with her not giving me the puzzy - that was old news at that point.

Just exactly how does she need a reality check?

She needs(ed) a reality check because I got the impression that she thought I was still chasing after her. Not only that I am chasing after her but that "she may have to tell me things that I don't want to hear and that she knows I'm strong enough and can handle it" - gimme a fvcking break. That is one of the most ridiculous things that I have ever heard. We went out on a couple of dates and things didn't really go anywhere. Why the hell do I have to be "strong enough" to handle anything.

FACT: She has low interest in you. She has used many different excuses, even religion, to tell you she isn't interested.

True. I recognized this - thanks in part to some advice I received from this board no less. Her reasons really are irrelevant - I have learned not to worry about what the reasons are and judge actions - nevertheless there were times that I received mixed signals but the bottom line is that no intimacy = no interest in my book.

FACT: You tried to play her low interest off like it was a character flaw.

Not true. Again the reasons are irrelevant (is it that she doesn't know a good thing when she's got it, is it that she doesn't find me physically attractive, it it that she's still hung up on this other dude, etc,etc,etc) Who cares? I NEVER had a problem with her UNTIL she made a statement that I took to be disrepectful and/or patronizing and/or belittling.

Believe me I have long since given up, decided to take the high road and be her "friend" but all of my "friends" treat me with respect or they do not remain my friends.

Ok, so we agree that you won't get this girl. Then why are you arguing with me?

Because instead of criticizing me with some tact you decided to jump all over me, make a ton of assumptions about a situation you know very little about and otherwise come off as an a$$hole.


I can see you at least subconsiously understand that what I say is true by the fact that you became intensely emotional over my comments.

More assumptions - I love how you can judge my emotional state through text. Intensely emotional??? Please.

FACT: If I think someone is an a$$hole, I tell them. That does not necessarily mean that I really give a rat's ass what they think. You are like this girl in that you both PRESUME that ANYTHING you say or do would actually have any meaningful effect on me. Please.

Again I say "meaningful effect" because I'd be lying if both your and her comments didn't bother me AT ALL.

If that were true this thread wouldn't exist and I wouldn't be typing this post.

If you want to pursue that which you won't get, that's your choice. Enjoy.

Like I've stated before, pursuit ended a long time ago. Even when I do nothing I am pursuing?

This whole thread is an experiment. - I am curious, period. To be completely honest I wasn't going to dig this thread back up becuase I have next to zero motivation in trying to "turn" this girl (other than to satisfy my lingering curiousity of if it's at all possible).
 

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Have to bump the Ganji. It's been two days since I've started ganji'ng this chick, and from seeing the number of times she has called me in that period, it seems to be working out well.

One question though Ro - how did you handle the situation when she asked you why you were avoiding her?
 

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i would bust gangi's evil twin on her. Jumangi her ass to the fullest extent.
 
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