about the Self Improvement Theory

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The big thesis that Pook made a few years ago was that being a DJ is self-improvement, that you have to work on yourself until you become the kind of guy who gets what he wants, whether it's women or something else.

however, there's a problem with this premise: isn't that just playing the chick's game? If you work on yourself and become very accomplished, attractive, and well-to-do, all you've done is made yourself more competitive against the other men out there.

Seems like the guy who really wins is the fat ugly slob who has HB10s running left and right for him s--ckng his **** when they're not cooking his food. He got a lot for a little, while the DJ basically just gets what he's worked hard for and earned.
 

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Originally posted by MackJr
Seems like the guy who really wins is the fat ugly slob who has HB10s running left and right for him s--ckng his **** when they're not cooking his food.
Why don't you become that man and let us know when all of these HB10's start fawning over you. I mean, since lots of girls are attracted to fat ugly men who have no ambition and no security in their lives...

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wow.. what
 

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So how is being successful in all aspects of your life "playing a chick's game" ?

Self improvement isn't done for anybody but yourself.

Sounds like you are trying to rationalize being a loser. Don't get me wrong, it's still possible to get laid without a job / car / etc., you just won't be with many high quality women that way.

Also, I personally would rather be at a high paying job, with a big house, a cool ride, and a quality chick at my side, than live in mom's basement eating twinkies with some skank.
 

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No, actually I am good looking, good job, paid off car, plenty of "stuff", if that matters.

my success rate--decent when I make an approach, nothing phenomenal.


But if a fat ugly slob can spend his time eating nachos and have HB10s swarming all over him, in many ways, he has a lot more.

Causality says that if doing A results in B, then if you want B, you do A. So if you want HB10s, you become a "great person". Which means in the power equation, you're at a loss. the HB10 is what really controls you. The only way to win is to 1) not want an HB10 or 2) want an HB5 so that you can stay an HG5

Aren't there slobs out there that have mastered persuasion and whatnot to get 10s, or is that a myth?
 

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Re: Re: about the Self Improvement Theory

Originally posted by diablo
Why don't you become that man and let us know when all of these HB10's start fawning over you. I mean, since lots of girls are attracted to fat ugly men who have no ambition and no security in their lives...

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Then do women even like men, or do they just like money?
 

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Originally posted by MackJr
But if a fat ugly slob can spend his time eating nachos and have HB10s swarming all over him,
Do these guys exist? Usually if a guy is ugly and has hot women all over him, he has some other exceptional quality (i.e. money, power or charisma) - which only comes about through self-improvement.
 
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C00L...dunno bout you but I'd consider a double digit wang to be an 'exceptional quality'.
well that, and they're getting paid to do him........
 
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MackJR - I always saw part of the advantage of being a DJ as being freedom from 'needing' women. The idea I have of a DJ is, be successful, live and enjoy your own life free of concerns about getting laid, and they'll come to you themselves. Its not about them at all. its about enjoying the quality of your own life so you dont spend your 20s and 30s chasing p**sy and then spend the rest of your life in a bull**** job hating every second because you wasted some very important and formative years of your life. Its about knowing what YOU want in life, apart from base biological needs, and moving towards that. Weirdly enough, as you fulfill those higher needs, the biological needs are met as well.

Be who YOU want to be. They'll come to you themselves and you wont even need them. Look at most successful people; their lives haven't been spent in the pursuit of tail. Even Schwarzenegger, who is famous for womanizing would never let women interfere with his work. he never even really chased, if his unauthorized biographies are to be believed - he got women easily, and when he needed to stay away from them, he did.

Just my $0.02
 

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you'd pull alot more gurls if u were the self-improved guy tho

the point of this stuff is to get the majority of gurls

i mean, open your eyes, AFC's everywhere get gurls too. it does happen, but the majority of 'em wont end up with the HB10

its like gambling, a lucky loser mite win the jackpot once in a while, but if you're smart playing with the most chances of winning then... you'll win
 

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The master don juan mindset is... CONTROL YOUR FEELINGS DON'T LET YOUR FEELINGS CONTROL YOU...

So you see the master don juan doesn't need sex with a HB10 to feel good about himself but he enjoys sex with a HB10...

A lot of indecisiveness and petty issues brought up on this board is due to many posters not being able to control their own feelings...

And the guy that improves himself to get house, car, trophy wife etc... is not really a master don juan... he's merely materialistic...
 

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And the guy that improves himself to get house, car, trophy wife etc... is not really a master don juan... he's merely materialistic...
True, real self-improvement is done for its own sake, but those material things tend to be side-effects of the "end game" of self-improvement. If given a choice between taco bell in the ghetto, and steak up on the hill, you're going to choose steak. To say otherwise is simply self-deception.

As you improve yourself, you become empowered to do whatever you want in life. The tree doesn't grow backwards towards being a seed. It grows always and ever upwards.
 

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Originally posted by geneticperfection
C00L...dunno bout you but I'd consider a double digit wang to be an 'exceptional quality'.
well that, and they're getting paid to do him........
Ron jeremy is 6inch and theres a dildo out there that is a copy of his penis, he has the knowledge and the skills, ever heard of knowing how to use it ?

ps.
Sounds like you are trying to rationalize being a loser.
 

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Originally posted by MackJr
Then do women even like men, or do they just like money?
This statement alone right here tells me you have no clue on what's actually going on. Are you serious? Do women like men? That's like asking an 8 year old if he likes ice cream. Of course women like men. They want men, but they want men with substance, with character, and men that have respect. That's what they want. Sure, they'll screw around here and there to get some quick satisfaction or something else out of it, but at the end of the day they aren't happy until they get the man they feel they deserve.

And onto the self-improvement thing. First off it's self-improvement, not everybody-else-improvement. You need to work on your mentality big time. You are coming from a really harmful frame of mind thinking like that. When you start thinking positively you'll stop being so negative and doubtful of yourself. That's the basis of self-improvement.


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This will quickly drive all women away from you.

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Why are you lot even wasting your time replying to him?
 

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Originally posted by dannyc
Why are you lot even wasting your time replying to him?
Some people like to hear themselves talk... others like to see themselves type...
 
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Originally posted by BLUEox117
Ron jeremy is 6inch and theres a dildo out there that is a copy of his penis, he has the knowledge and the skills, ever heard of knowing how to use it ?

ps.
Ech...moron...I was kidding around.

And btw, BlueOx - if you think porn shows good sexual technique, you have a lot to learn...

later bro...
 
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Originally posted by geneticperfection


And btw, BlueOx - if you think porn shows good sexual technique, you have a lot to learn...
can you please quote where i said porn shows good sexual technique?
 

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But if a fat ugly slob can spend his time eating nachos and have HB10s swarming all over him, in many ways, he has a lot more.

How about this...wouldn't it be PANDERING to women to NOT self-improve?

If you KNEW that you could get HB10's riding on the coat-tails of good personality with no effort else where if life, you'd NOT be working on your life for the sake of supposedly EASY pvssy??? Would you not??

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He who gets more life out of life, does more to himself to do it.

Sure, the quick, easy answer works best. Gimme a short cut. A tip. A tactic. Anything. Just like aspirin. Or tylenol. Or a nightcap.

But it does work like that?

It's quite CONTRARY to what women want. Why?

BECAUSE they want the power of choice. They want the power of CONTROL. That's what society is angled at right now. Females in control. And NOT being valuable to yourself like a business, you are segregating yourself to one girl, basically PANDERING to the female race.

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I am only choosing to reply for the noobs who may get the wrong impression. Plus, those guys who think fat dudes are with an hb10 have a SERIOUSLY low value of what an HB10 is. I have NEVER, EVER, NEVER seen a fat guy, in the words of fat, have an HB10. I've seen couples regress together, and get fat, and at some point the relationship melts away. BUT, I have never seen a guy deemed fat do a pickup of a chick coveted by most men.

Who you are inside, and what you value of yourself is a reflection on the outside.


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