About Night Clubs

[PRMoon]

i will say it again, because ovbiously on one is listening.. I never said you couldn't score in a club.. I said it is probably the worst place on earth to meet a woman out of all of the posibilities, yet so much interest/effort is put into it.

Hmmm...I tried to pick up girls in Clark County Detention center when I was detained there. I've got to say THAT is definately the worst place to meet women.

But I see what you're saying some what. I think If you've already logged a ton of time in night clubs like Str8 and myself then picking up women for us specifcally then continuing that trend isn't such a bad idea. It's like training alot for a sport. You've invested time, effort, and money to specialize in your field. After a while (in my case years) you've got instincts about how things are done in night clubs. You can often spot the girls who are worth your time just by their demeanor. You know how to protect your wallet at the door and inside. Of course all of this knowledge comes with a serious rush that the average club goer won't experience, unless of course they're riding your coat tails. At this point however, I'd go as far as to say I'm a club specialist (at least in vegas) and the only place that even comes close to rivaling my attempt to sucess ratio in the club is in bars.

 

[Oxide]

Ahhh i fvcking hate you BB. Here i am at 5am trying to go to bed and then I see a thread that is right in up my alley.

OK, i will put this on the table right off the bat - I have been clubbing for over 5-6 years, i have many friends who constantly go clubbing. I CAN COUNT ON MY HANDS THE NUMBER OF WOMEN ALL OF US HAVE PULLED COMBINED OUT OF CLUBS THE SAME DAY. Key note: Same day. Sure we have gotten many numbers which eventually led somewhere, but getting a girl to come home with me had been challenging. Another key note: We are all 21 right now, so this is coming from a guy who was younger when going to clubs, meaning i wasnt looking to pull a girl home)

Now that i told you that pulling a girl in the club is hard, here are the good news:

What BB described for the average guy could be correct, but to me that is the way of the average CHUMP. Let me tell you something - i've had more girls BUY MY DRINKS in my lifetime than me buying one for them. It's not even close. Some days i would go out to bars/clubs and get loaded without spending a dime courtesy of complete strangers. Same with house parties. May be i will be kind enough to write a guide to that someday, or may be ill just sell an e-book

So once again - you are playing by "the standard rules" if you are doing what BB writes. and you are missing out. As someone noted, if you go with a mindset of "Im just gonna have a fvcking blast tonight" YOU WILL GET ATTENTION FROM GIRLS. I absolutely freaking guarantee it.

Do you want instant attention? Fine, here is a tip, but none of you have the balls for it. Here it is - you want girls to come dance with you, as soon as you get on the dancefloor, go to the stage and start doing the best moves you have. Look like you are having a great time just dancing by yourself. If you have a buddy who has the balls to come do this with you, you will get even more attention.

Now, going for the digits in the club is weak. Going for the kiss is weak. That is what i did when i was 16-19 years old. Going for sex is better, but you must know where you gonna take her to fvck. Bathroom? Is it accessible easily? Behind the stage? Can people see you? Your car? Is there enough room?

As much as i love clubs, i have to admit something - THEY ABSOLUTELY SUCK WHEN IT COMES TO SPITTING GAME. I can pull women because i can dance and i am a fairly good looking guy. Talking in clubs is horrible, and if that's what your main weapon is, you are kind of fvcked.

Besides that, clubs and bars are full of chumps who get liquored up and hit on all the women. WHY DO YOU THINK THEIR B1TCH SHIELDS ARE SO HIGH? they have to be!! I'd be a **** too if all these crazy women bothered me.
So dont go to clubs to pick up girls. Dont even go to the bars. Guys think they can get a girl because she is drinking and is excited. Dont forget that there are 100's of guys who are thinking that very same thing when they go to that very same club.

So when I approach with "Hey, Do you like your hair pulled?" in the club she might think "oh another drunk assh0le" and leave. But when i say the same thing in Wallmart isle #9, the girl thinks "Wow! He is direct! He must have the balls to say something like that" and then i stand out much more.

Kapish? I gotta go to bed really, awesome thread guys.

 

[S1NN3R]

Now, can taking a woman home from a club happen.

I pull about 6-7 times out of ten that I go to clubs with the intention of pulling, and usually about half the times I go are to pull. I've met LTRs, ONSs, friends, business contacts, everything.....

I don't see how you can think it's intended to profit from guys going home alone. You said something about repeat business being lower, don't you think if you hook-up at a place every single time you go, that you'll probably continue going there, plus tell every single guy you see that you hook-up everytime, thus getting them to go and hook-up everytime and so on.....?

 

[backbreaker]

I pull about 6-7 times out of ten that I go to clubs with the intention of pulling, and usually about half the times I go are to pull. I've met LTRs, ONSs, friends, business contacts, everything.....

I don't see how you can think it's intended to profit from guys going home alone. You said something about repeat business being lower, don't you think if you hook-up at a place every single time you go, that you'll probably continue going there, plus tell every single guy you see that you hook-up everytime, thus getting them to go and hook-up everytime and so on.....?

Not to be mean, but you can't be serious....

If I go to a club, Say like Rollo did and meet my future wife at a club, why would I want to come back the next week, and the week after next and the week after next? I am going to be spending some QT with my new girl. Yeah, we might decide to come back, we might come back a few times, but it sure as hell won't be as many times as if you were single and still looking to score.

Even if you are just a good PUA and can take a woman home without much effort, you aren't the type that is going to be buying drinks for women, etc, which means you aren't bringing the club as much money as your average chump is.

So yes, clubs are designed for you to fail, just like casinos don't get rich off of you getting rich, clubs don't survive off of people like us. They survive off of average joes who spend 50 a night in the club, only to never bring anything home.

Just enough guys succeed to leave the glimmer of hope for other chumps to keep coming back, which is the beauty of the entire thing. If no one ever succeed, clubs wouldn't be as popular, but most chumps love the allure of being able to go to clubs, take home women, etc, when to be blunt, they can't.



I have never spoke of my experiences or what I have seen. I KNOW it can be done. My DAD has been doing it for years.. he's still doing it and he's married. With women my age sometimes. I can't complain about not meeting women in clubs.. I've met a couple, one I quasi-dated for about 3 months, another I have been Fvcking off and on for a year now. And I get a hell of a lot of opprotunities when I go to clubs, but alot of women in clubs don't do it for me. You have to truely stand out for me to want to do anything with you in a club, otherwise I will wait untiL i can see you in a better light, make sure I am not under the influence, etc.

I once had a girl become a stalker after I meet her in a club.. a true to life stalker. Not bad looking, but something didn't seem right when I was talking to her in the club, so I let her alone.. I guess she didn't have it all, glad I avoided that one.

One day, with a girl I had already ****ed, I saw her with her new BF, and we hadn't seen each other in about half a year. So she excuses herself from him, comes to dance with me.. about 30 mintues later we are in the back seat of my car while her BF was in the club still. Goes back in the club and leaves with him like nothing happened..

I once ****ed a Miami Heat Cheerleader, but I didn't know it.. better yet, I didn't believe her, until she left town back for miami and I checked the website and she was actually there.. lord knows she was good looking enough. I knew then I would have to get out of little rock, because every girl she was with was just as fine as she was. About a year and a half ago, made a post about it, I can find her pic if you want, it's around here somewhere.

It's been a while since i have been to a club without a woman on my arm, never someone I am dating, but a woman nevertheless, so I haven't had to try to leave with anyone, but I get glances, smiles, etc all the time still. I had one girl pull me away for a dance and start kissing me in my ear the entire dance, but she was no were near the level of the girl I had brought with me to the club.

The most successful day I ever had at a club was when I decided to take my long time f-buddy with me. Now, she's definatly ****able, but she's cute. She's not georgous.. she's pretty plain.. As far as looks, I've ****ed women that are heads and sholders above her.. but I love her personality, and she will do anything, and she's buck wild. Man, I swear on my little sister, I left with about 6 phone numbers that night, one of which was a stripper I ended up sorta dating for about 3 months, 2-3 of which I ended up sleeping with eventually. The stripper pulled me aside when she went to the bathroom and told me I could do better, and put her tounge down my throat, and slid me her phone number. I didn't know she was a stripper until like a month later.

So I've had some success, and some great times at clubs.. like I said, I'm not against them, but man I pitty the average man trying to score in clubs.

PRMoon, you are silly, lol. Of course it's damn near impossible to talk to a woman while you are in Jail, detention, etc.

 

[STR8UP]

STR8UP, I hate to be blunt, but you and I are different from regular people... we have money. Girls look at the clothes I wear, they might see the car I drove if they catch a glance at it, and in all honestly, most of the time, unless she is seriously attached to her man or she just finds me repusing, which doesn't happen, it's a downhill race. But I am not an average guy (Which makes it harder becuase I have to not only decide if i like her, i have to decide does she actually LIKE me)

Note I said average guy.. now, in all honestly, there isn't a guy here that is average, because everyone here knows what it takes to be successful with women. However, with that said, even I, a man who has financial means and is at the worst decent looking, is at a disadvantage to a HB8 with a 2 inch skirt on wtih 10 guys standing around her, when I can meet that same girl 12 hours later at say, a line in Mcdonalds, and get her with ease.

I hear ya.

Sometimes I'm sure my reputation precedes me which gives me an edge. I mean, even if a chick is only mildly attracted to me if her friends hype me up I have the advantage.

I just think that clubs are an EXCELLENT place to speed up the seduction process. But like I said, I don't really go to meet strangers so much as to meet friends of friends.

You have the comfort level because her friends already know and approve of you, which makes it SOOOO much easier to get past the initial qualifying stages. If I meet strangers at the club chances are it's an uphill battle to get them in my jacuzzi that night, but if they know friends of mine its a lot easier.

You also have the added benefit of that wonderful thing we call ALCOHOL. We all know that all a chick needs is an excuse to "behave badly" to avoid accountability for her actions. That coupled with actual lowered inhibitions gives you an advantage.

Plus it doesn't hurt that I live walking distance to the clubs. Its easy going on for the kill when the ladies aren't ready to go home after last call

You better be ready when you head down this way cause you know I'm gonna drag your ass out to a club or two!

 

[Bible_Belt]

Talking in clubs is horrible, and if that's what your main weapon is, you are kind of fvcked.

yep

 

[S1NN3R]

If I go to a club, Say like Rollo did and meet my future wife at a club, why would I want to come back the next week, and the week after next and the week after next? I am going to be spending some QT with my new girl. Yeah, we might decide to come back, we might come back a few times, but it sure as hell won't be as many times as if you were single and still looking to score.

I could have sworn I said "hook-up" over and over, and didn't mention anything about "future wife".

 

[PRMoon]

So I've had some success, and some great times at clubs.. like I said, I'm not against them, but man I pitty the average man trying to score in clubs.

This is pretty much the point I was driving at. If you're not in the club circut then pulling from there with little experience or know how is tough. You're a fish in a shark tank fighting for scraps. Although one could say that in the beginning we all started out like that. I think too many times rookies have one good night then expect to repeat the next 20 times they go back. It's still a craps shoot and these people don't know how to load the dice. Getting the odds in your favor isn't a sometimes thing.

PRMoon, you are silly, lol. Of course it's damn near impossible to talk to a woman while you are in Jail, detention, etc.

I felt the need to lighten the mood in this thread. Though I wasn't lying about the exprience. I was drunk and disorderly at a bar and was detained in CCDC. My BAC was .24 so I was pretty tossed, and in the process I though it would be a good Idea to talk to the women in the waiting room proceeding the holding cell. They weren't too impressed which I felt bad about at the time...till I sobered up and remembered they were likely prostitutes...who were going to jail.

 

[Chillisauce]

Clubs = meatmarket, those with the best looks will succeed easily.

Cold Approaches/networking = looks still important but not as much competition so you can succeed with average looks, there is a chance here to show other worth such as monetary, personality and so forth.

To be brutally honest, most of the people here are not great lookers.. if you were you would not be on a website which helps you attract women. Very good looking, completely AFC guys can succeed in clubs and get superficial girlfriends without ever realising they need to work on their dating game.

So, most of you are not great looking.. obviously you have a higher chance of success in the second catagory, which has less of an emphasis on initial looks attraction and more on other areas.

So it would be unwise to invest your time in improving your club game when your positive areas generally suit the other catagory. In the nerdiest way i can put it, would you rather a 20% return on your financial investment or a 10% return? Both will earn you money, but one will earn your money ALOT faster.

Of course for the good looking guys, clubs might be the best way for you to go.

 

[skeeloo]

what bb said was simple .
why spend money going to club to pick women when i can meet the same women in walmart or in the bus and chat them up, when their defences are down.
by the way looks wont do **** for you in clubs, there are so many afc guys going after girls that your looks insnt that much of an issue to these attention *****.
i go clubbing 2ice a month and thats it.
if clubbing is your thing then do it. but iv been there and done that.

 

[S1NN3R]

why spend money going to club to pick women when i can meet the same women in walmart or in the bus and chat them up, when their defences are down.

There is only one time that a woman's defenses are even slightly weakened, and that's when they're married. They are never down. Ever.

You go to clubs rather that just relying on WalMart or buses (classy) because at the very least, you can have a good time, even if you doon't manange to get laid. Plus, there is a much higher concentration of women who are looking to get poked. Many women go to clubs for the same reason guys do, to hook-up.

If you're going to clubs solely to hook-up though, then you're not going to have a good time. Go because you enjoy it. Hook-up as a bonus.

 

[balla]

bingo!

Clubs = meatmarket, those with the best looks will succeed easily.

Cold Approaches/networking = looks still important but not as much competition so you can succeed with average looks, there is a chance here to show other worth such as monetary, personality and so forth.

To be brutally honest, most of the people here are not great lookers.. if you were you would not be on a website which helps you attract women. Very good looking, completely AFC guys can succeed in clubs and get superficial girlfriends without ever realising they need to work on their dating game.

So, most of you are not great looking.. obviously you have a higher chance of success in the second catagory, which has less of an emphasis on initial looks attraction and more on other areas.

So it would be unwise to invest your time in improving your club game when your positive areas generally suit the other catagory. In the nerdiest way i can put it, would you rather a 20% return on your financial investment or a 10% return? Both will earn you money, but one will earn your money ALOT faster.

Of course for the good looking guys, clubs might be the best way for you to go.

Best post in the whole thread. I mean if you go to a club and just stand at the wall don't blame the club for not getting you laid. Some ppl feel comfortable in club environments others don't. You've got to be comfortable in crowds, comfortable saying hi to strangers, comfortable dancing, and confident around a $hit load of AFC losers. Clubs are not for beginners and yes AFC's will be eatin alive and/or walk out broke everytime... and then post about how clubs suck.

If your strengths are:

Looks -- (a good smile, tall, unique look, and/or good build)
Confidence -- (there is LOTS of competition. most of it very weak and annoying though. you can't let that stuff phase you).
Dancing ability -- (a must, if you can't dance don't bother going. just go to a bar)

you are good to go at a club. w/o at least a couple of these you are wasting your time, for the various reasons all the other posters mentioned. IMO the ideal location is a bar atmopshere that has a small dancing area. or a club that has a patio and/or lounge area. just straight up mega dance floor isn't condusive to picking up for the vast majority of posters on here. you gotta have some place to pull your little lady friend away too anyways.

and most importantly like others have mentioned. you have to go in with the right attitude. obviously your looking to pick up chicks but you can still have fun even if you don't close anything. I always try to go out with friends guys and girls that way really you dno't have to meet anyone knew if you don't want too...just hang out with your friends and have a good time. whatever else happens happens.

 

[S1NN3R]

Dancing ability -- (a must, if you can't dance don't bother going. just go to a bar)

Not true. I do not dance and I pull from clubs wonderfully.

 

[three12]

Not true. I do not dance and I pull from clubs wonderfully.

I'm the same.

If clubbing DOESN't work for you. Thats fine.

If you disagree with spending money on clubbing. Thats fine.

But coming and telling us that we can't pull from clubbing is a joke.

Its the same as someone telling you that seduction/attraction/self improvement won't work. They know because they've tried.

You know it works, because it works for you.

I'm done with this thread. To the rest of you. Enjoy the debate.

three12.

 

[backbreaker]

i've been gone for most of the day so let me respond:

S1NN3R, let's say I hook up with a chick from the club, and it's some good ass pvssy. I want to keep hitting it, so I do, and I am laying it to her, so she wants more.

So next saturday rolls around, and I get a call from club **** buddy. Do I A) go to the club and spend say, 25 bucks (10 door, 3 drinks, about average for me) to honeslty, look at women and chat some up, dance a little and go home tired, or b) go and get some free ass that I haven't even broke in yet?

It's just like when a girl meets a guy she stops going out as much, at least in the beginning of the realtonship.. unless I have preplanned a week ahead the night out, **** it, I can sit at home, rent a movie, eat ice cream and have free, good down home sex all night long.

However, I do see your point.. and if you are just doing a "how many different girls I can **** in x amount of time" then your arguement is 100% true, and even so, it has it's good points and you yourself make a great example.

PRMoon, I venture to argue with you. I honestly think you are better off, at least where I am from, because little rock isn't the biggest city on earth, when you aren't a regular and you are something NEW.. Once i start to know exactly who goes to which club on which day, I am going too much. You are something new, something no one has seen.. now if you can pull that off with the necessary confidence it takes to pull a woman, like 'hey babe, I don't come here often, but this aint' my first rodeo" then that's the best combiniation.. I mean, what does it say about a guy who is in a club every Friday like clockwork? Even if you don't have something to do, mix it up, read a book, go to a club in a different city, do something.

Clubs = meatmarket is very very true. However, don't mistake the way guys judge looks and the way a woman judge looks are Too different things. Yes, if you are Brad Pitt, it goes a long way, but a woman is more concerned with a guys LOOK not the way a guy looks.. two totally different things... As long as you weren't slapped in the face with an ugly stick at birth, and are in reasonable shape, the rest can be fixed. Most guys don't have the slightest clue how to dress. Clothes are like a religion to me. I do the entire nine. I love suits, slacks, but I can do the blue jean casual look as well with a sportscoat. Pay attention to detail, most guys don't understand the importance of a good watch. I have about 8, and not one of them are cheap (under 300), I buy them used, but I have became sorta a watch ***** the last year or so, so you don't need that many, but I guarantee I have one for every occusion. I would love to have a Patek Philippe watch, but I am looking at 10k to even consider buying one, a used one at that, and I don't know if it's that serious.. but it would hold it's value for the rest of my life, so it's really an investment.. and not one girl would know what a Patek Philippe watch is anyway, so I dont' know.

anyway I digress. Cufflinks, belts, socks.. **** like this women pick up on (trust me). Colonge. KNow your ****, know what goes well on you. Dressing isn't ironing a shirt, throwing on some blue jeans and some boots and a baseball cap.. I mean, if that's your thing, than do it, and you might be successful, but dont' go anywhere with me.. I will get a hell of a lot more opprotunties with more women, plus I get alot of respect that Iwouldn't get if I just had on your standard cookie cutter "going out" outfit.

Dancing.. I can dance. I always have been able to. Slids, poping, locking.. well I am not perfect but I definatly won't make an ass of myself, but I am not really the dancing type. I want to learn to Salsa, something more sensual than just grinding on a *****es ass like I am ****ing. I like to REALLY dance and most women can't REALLY dance. I mean, I will get on the dance floor just to get my time in, but I don't take it seroiusly, like I am not all on her trying to dance floor **** like some guys,a nd I don't do the entire PDA thing, at least I don't try do.

Talking to a woman it like a sales job. The first thing you do when you sell something isn't present the product, it's lower the defenses of the consumer. For isntance, if you are buying a car, you have your guard up for the h arassing car salesman before you even get on the lot. You know his "game", just like women know your "game". Talk to them, get to know them, make them laugh, show a true interest in them, show them you give a **** about them other than their brest size or how long their legs are (Even if you don't).

A salesman knows a customer is ready when he asks a buying question like "what are the payments on this car" or "what is the warranty on this PC?".. or like "so do you have a Girlfriend" or "why are you single?" or "you look nice, blah blah blah".. that's a buying question, she has already considered dating/****ing/whatever with you. You just have to close the deal. I have never,a nd I honestly mean ever had a girl ask me anything lke this and I not close on them.

Just say, verbatium if you want "XXX you seem like a very intersting person, I would love to get together with you some time to hang out and get to know each other, and we can see what if anything goes from there..what is the best number to contact you at?"

Bam.. signed sealed and delivered. And once you get the number, you have already put the thought of her getting to know you on a different level in her head, if it wasn't already. If she objects, which she won't, but if she did, figure out what her objections are, and disable them.

"I have a Boyfriend"

"Great babe, I can understand that, i mean, you are a very interesting person as I previously said, and I would be foolish to think that I would be the only guy that thought that. However, I didn't say anything about dating, I said I wanted to get to know you on a different level. Now I like to get to know people before i have any type of relationships with them, blah blah blah, now what was the best number to contact you at again so we can meet up later this week?"

My Ex told me I sound like a salesman, and I am, I sold computers for 4 years, even though I didn't actually sell them, I know how to sell ****. Everytime you are talking to a woman, you are selling yourself.

How did I get on this subject.. oh. Going to the club is the equivlant of going to a car lot on a Sunday when no one is there and window shopping, and deciding on what you like that way... yeah, you will sell **** just off the apperance, but the best, most profitable sales are made by good salesman that can present their product in the best manner possible.. I can't do that in a club. All she can do is look at me. Now, at times, I can get her out of the club, it's all good. That's usually what I do if I am serious about someone, go on a balcony or just plain leave. Because i know how I work, I need to be able to talk to her, even though I am good looking I know if I can talk to her, she doesn't stand a chance in hell, espically if she already lets me know she finds me attractive.

 

[chickenlegs03]

so the whole point of this thread, and your marathon posts were to exclaim pity for guys who can't score in clubs?

why really, do you feel sorry for these guys? who cares. if you logically think about it, for you to be successful, others have to lose. with all your business-sense, it's pretty obvious. not everyone makes it.

guess what happens when classmates who are slackers ask for me to help them the night before an exam? i say, "sure" and give them the wrong answers, making them think it's the right ones. why? because maybe they'll actually learn from their mistake...and it helps my grade because it increases the curve.

i don't feel sorry for anyone. everything that happens to you is your fault and your choice. i take advantage of the suckers.

i also agree w/ s1nner and three12.

 

[PRMoon]

PRMoon, I venture to argue with you. I honestly think you are better off, at least where I am from, because little rock isn't the biggest city on earth, when you aren't a regular and you are something NEW.. Once i start to know exactly who goes to which club on which day, I am going too much. You are something new, something no one has seen.. now if you can pull that off with the necessary confidence it takes to pull a woman, like 'hey babe, I don't come here often, but this aint' my first rodeo" then that's the best combiniation.. I mean, what does it say about a guy who is in a club every Friday like clockwork? Even if you don't have something to do, mix it up, read a book, go to a club in a different city, do something.

See this is where things get fuzzy. You really can't compare Little Rock to Las Vegas in terms of the club scene. The venues are 100% opposites. There are more clubs here in las vegas then there is in your entire state (no exageration) and if you're a local running the circut here, going to the same club every friday doesn't even cross your mind because you have so many to choose from. Also "Being something new" in Las Vegas decribes the majority of people in clubs not the minority. There are 30 Million+ tourist here every year so everyone here is new. Which leads me to another point, the girls here in vegas ARE looking to hook up with guys. More so then other towns because, not to be too cliche but, "what happens in vegas stays in vegas" applys most definately under these circumstances. That's not also to say that the local girls here aren't too easy pull either (this town changes them).

Also note my location which is unlike any venue for clubbing in america since the club explosion out here saturated LV with the longest night life in the country. My situation is anything but average which is why I really don't have too much to comment on in this particular club thread.

This is why I made this statment in the first place.

 

[Oxide]

"Great babe, I can understand that, i mean, you are a very interesting person as I previously said, and I would be foolish to think that I would be the only guy that thought that. However, I didn't say anything about dating, I said I wanted to get to know you on a different level. Now I like to get to know people before i have any type of relationships with them, blah blah blah, now what was the best number to contact you at again so we can meet up later this week?"

You keep using that dude, keep playing the "salesman"... Ill just tell her i want to give her multiple orgasms and avoid all this game playing nonsense.

 

[S1NN3R]

S1NN3R, let's say I hook up with a chick from the club, and it's some good ass pvssy. I want to keep hitting it, so I do, and I am laying it to her, so she wants more.

So next saturday rolls around, and I get a call from club **** buddy. Do I A) go to the club and spend say, 25 bucks (10 door, 3 drinks, about average for me) to honeslty, look at women and chat some up, dance a little and go home tired, or b) go and get some free ass that I haven't even broke in yet?

As Moon said, Vegas is entirely a different place. I would guess that probably 70-80% of the girls that I hook-up with are involuntary ONS, solely for the reason that they're only in town for one or two nights.

I guess your plan might be best for where you are, but it's nearly impossible for me to describe the club mentality here in a way that will make you understand what I'm trying to say. The closest thing I can say that might convey it is that clubs here are completely based around you scoring, because they know you'll be back, simply because of the type of scene it is here.

Besides, for guys like me, who cares if you've got free ass waiting for you that you picked up last week? Tap Girl A around 8PM, head to the clubs to bang out fresh Girl B by midnight, and then round it off with a nightcap from Girl C you've had on the back-burner for a few weeks. I'm very loyal once I'm in a relationship, but until I actually speak the words to a girl that I'm only seeing her, I'm hitting every girl that attracts me. Call me a slut.... Clubs are good for sluts.

 

[backbreaker]

You keep using that dude, keep playing the "salesman"... Ill just tell her i want to give her multiple orgasms and avoid all this game playing nonsense.

I'm not playing "salesman"... that actually is how I talk in real life, espically when I just meet someone.. some people call it talking white, some call it talking proper, that's just the way I was raised to speak.

anyway that's beside the point. Not one person here has refuted what I said, just how they are "different" and how the rules dont' apply to them becuase they can do x and x and get z result, when you very well might be able to.. but it still doesn't refute the point that clubs are probably the worst place on earth to meet women.. besides Jail of course PRMoon