About marriage

[BaronOfHair]

I'm gonna propose to my chick this week. Marriage is a beautiful thing ordained by God. It's what he wants.

Dunno about God or what he may, or may not, desire for us. It is obvious though that many men who were deeply immersed in The Manosphere are going to be in straits similar to the ones that many women who were True Believers in Second Wave Feminism found themselves in

32:57-33:15 , once The 70s had passed

Walking around desperately PRETENDING that we're still in our late teens/early 20s, in a transparently flaccid attempt to ignore our regret over NOT having the things we once denigrated as "Normie" and "Tradcon"... Lives that are upper middle class-all points above + the income to keep it all going, and the robust social support system which accompanies this. Part of which often entails a beautiful wife, kids, traveling frequently(often internationally), and enjoying side-chicks periodically

 

[Chow Mein]

I'm gonna propose to my chick this week. Marriage is a beautiful thing ordained by God. It's what he wants.

Is the reason for marrying this girl stemming from not having children out of wedlock?

 

[kavi]

Look the problem is like this its very simple.

Firstly, we are not in a traditional village where 90% of marriage and the system of marriage is based.

Modern male female dynamics are totally messed up and along with general social values.

The major reason is that women see men as providers, primarily of marriage and 'security'.

The major reason women wish to see men like this is not out of need of security but due to ego and narcissism.

Modern women wont treat men based o their personality, energy, behaviours like ow all humans are MEANT to treat others. Instead they treat in a way dependant on how they can get money resources a ring from men.

This is the prostitution mindset. This is the exchange or capitalist mindset.

So this basically 'selling out' social values for the sake of getting something.

But in the modern world women dont need men for security and most men cannot even provide it.

And many married women and couples are not happy primarily because our wider social values and behaviours have become so negative and based on money and exchange.

Now evrt aspect of society is moving away from this prostitution/exchange system except these women who still see as a fun and defining game of life to try and lock a man down.

Nothing wrong with marriage imo but when women use it as some game and treat men based on whether they offer marriage or their marriage status rather the mans character, honesty, dignity etc things have become too cold, too low and hence the male-female social energy has hit an all-time low.

 

[buddhafukko]

I never understood why people are getting married when the benefits of it is so low while the risks are very high.
I mean what is the point, right?

Marriage was always a legal business contract focused on a man securing reproductive rights with a specific woman. The obvious transaction is the man's resources for the woman's childbearing capacity. All of this romantic horse **** was the beginning of the end for western civilization. Courtly love and romance are in fact quite recent. The most elite men, such as Elon Musk, bypass marriage entirely, having numerous children with various select women through contract. Historically, most men never reproduced and western civilization is gradually returning to this norm.

For the average man to marry for anything other then to sire children isn't just idiotic, it's insane.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Firstly, we are not in a traditional village where 90% of marriage and the system of marriage is based.

Yep: Those of us living in The Post-Industrial West enjoy a world where we're free to chose our own lovers and spouses



"....women see men as providers, primarily of marriage and 'security"

Lots of luck to anyone who believes that's going to change anytime in the next millennium



"....most men cannot even provide it(security)"

That's resolved by getting more Americans into the workforce https://www.forbes.com/sites/michae...and-promising-jobs-strategy-for-the-homeless/ and off of state aid + Increasing access to vocational training. Both of which will disproportionately benefit men, allow them to attain the wealth to be solid husbands and fathers, if they so choose to be


"....honesty, dignity etc things have become too cold, too low"

Lamenting this turn of events with a song