A woman's prime years are 25-35, not 18-25

[HaleyBaron]

From an evolutionary and anthropological perspective, women physically peak around 19 or 20. Meaning, physiologically speaking they are prime. But they lack certain experience, mindset, and maturity characteristics men would tend to look for a deeper connection than a physical one.

I usually agree with your stuff, MMA, but I have to say a disagreement here. This is just from my philosophy that I have seen from other men like myself.

There is no attractive quality a woman can give that is experience, mindset, or maturity related. Not to mention, her financial situation will not make me want to bang her more or less.

• Women are not meant to be your friend, so there is no need for intellect.
• Men are the hunters and the leaders. There is no need for a woman's money less she's part of your tribe and contributing to your own finances. You are one who decides what to do with that money in the end.
• Maturity, this means nothing to us men. A childish female is most of the time far more sexy and attractive than a mature one. Men are logical. Having an illogical fun going female is what makes attraction happen. Be advised, this does not include crazy females.
• If all a woman had was her looks and was submissive, every guy will still bring her into their fold. The only guys who want mature women are those who try to make friends with women. Women are not conversation partners. This also shows that the man is dependent and still has feminine qualities if he has to have women be as "mature" as him. That is what men are for. At that point, might as well become gay. Men are better mature partners.

 

[Plinco]

My two cents: It's contextual.

A woman's smv is an evaluation. An evaluation is done by an individual for his or her own purposes.

This whole thread is some posters projecting personal preferences.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Whoever wants to build a strong relationship and a family made to last and be sane has to start when he is reasonably young and she is even younger.

With time women lose the ability to bond as much as men lose the ability to withstand the stress coming from dealing with women without turning insane...also bonding happens when stickers are new not when they have been attached and pulled many times.

There are the biological reasons we all know that influence her fertility and look as much as the psychological ones the influence her behaviour and personality.

Struggles and experiences make a man stronger while they make a woman less femminine and more angry.

Fvcking around messes up bonding abilities for both but 10x more for women.

 

[Modern Man Advice]

I usually agree with your stuff, MMA, but I have to say a disagreement here. This is just from my philosophy that I have seen from other men like myself.

There is no attractive quality a woman can give that is experience, mindset, or maturity related. Not to mention, her financial situation will not make me want to bang her more or less.

• Women are not meant to be your friend, so there is no need for intellect.
• Men are the hunters and the leaders. There is no need for a woman's money less she's part of your tribe and contributing to your own finances. You are one who decides what to do with that money in the end.
• Maturity, this means nothing to us men. A childish female is most of the time far more sexy and attractive than a mature one. Men are logical. Having an illogical fun going female is what makes attraction happen. Be advised, this does not include crazy females.
• If all a woman had was her looks and was submissive, every guy will still bring her into their fold. The only guys who want mature women are those who try to make friends with women. Women are not conversation partners. This also shows that the man is dependent and still has feminine qualities if he has to have women be as "mature" as him. That is what men are for. At that point, might as well become gay. Men are better mature partners.

I agree with you. Much of this is true. But it only applies to raw intergender dynamics.

What I was attempting to display is what could draw some men, like me, (again this is subjective, what attracts me might not attract you) to a certain woman. I appreciate a deep connection and yes mind matters to me. I don't necessarily enjoy a sack of meat and bones. There is a spirituality and mindset that I value in the women I feel attracted to.

There is def things to consider from both perspectives because you are not wrong.



Modern Man Advice

 

[HaleyBaron]

I agree with you. Much of this is true. But it only applies to raw intergender dynamics.

What I was attempting to display is what could draw some men, like me, (again this is subjective, what attracts me might not attract you) to a certain woman. I appreciate a deep connection and yes mind matters to me. I don't necessarily enjoy a sack of meat and bones. There is a spirituality and mindset that I value in the women I feel attracted to.

There is def things to consider from both perspectives because you are not wrong.



Modern Man Advice

The spirituality is inherent, not necessarily something as concrete as what us men perceive as "deep connections." Because no woman can ever connect like that to a man. It's why the more bp men or the magician type [musicians, artists, actors] tend to say they want a woman they can talk to or connect with [validation]. They either are desperate for social connection so seek it from the opposite sex or they are feminine hardwired to need female social connections. I assure you, no woman is returning this deep connection back. Each gender plays a whole different game than the other. We see this easily with how long a man will stick with a woman through her difficult times vs. a woman sticking with a man through his. Aka, her connections begins and end at how stable of a man you are. Which is why the sh*ttest goes through the roof when you as a man start to weaken [finances, communication, less testosterone, weakened physical state].

 

[Bokanovsky]

25-35 If a woman didn't cash out her life during her younger years, developed a fitness plan, matured, and etc then this will be her prime years.

Prime years for what? Sunday brunches? Happy hour drinks with her girlfriends? The c0ck carousel? You have to be specific.

If you are talking about physical attractiveness, you are dead wrong. All else being equal, late teens and early 20's are a woman's biological prime. This is the time when her fertility is at its max. It's no coincidence that declining fertility is accompanied by declining physical attractiveness. It's like her body is sending a signal to potential impregnators: "I'm not as fertile as I used to be. Find a younger candidate if you can."

And yes, there are women who still look hot in their 30's. There may even be some women who actually look better in their 30's than they did in their 20s (typically due to weight loss, plastic surgery, etc.) But that doesn't mean sh!t. You can find men in their 40's and 50's who are more athletic than some men in their 20's. That does not mean that 40-59 are peak years for male athletes.

 

[Stuffnu]

Just like dry aged steak.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Prime years for what? Sunday brunches? Happy hour drinks with her girlfriends? The c0ck carousel? You have to be specific.

If you are talking about physical attractiveness, you are dead wrong. All else being equal, late teens and early 20's are a woman's biological prime. This is the time when her fertility is at its max. It's no coincidence that declining fertility is accompanied by declining physical attractiveness. It's like her body is sending a signal to potential impregnators: "I'm not as fertile as I used to be. Find a younger candidate if you can."

And yes, there are women who still look hot in their 30's. There may even be some women who actually look better in their 30's than they did in their 20s (typically due to weight loss, plastic surgery, etc.) But that doesn't mean sh!t. You can find men in their 40's and 50's who are more athletic than some men in their 20's. That does not mean that 40-59 are peak years for male athletes.

It is prime in physical attractiveness if the woman doesn't take care of herself and ends up fat with 3 kids by 25, you are damn right. However, if a woman takes care of herself then she looks better at 25-35 because she has aged in to her body, matured, and can still have kids.

In addition, the market agrees with me too.

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None of these women are under 20, I know I said 25 but I'll budge to 22 because she's had a year to be 21 at least. The only guys subscribing to this 18-20 age pill cope are old/butt hurt men that have ran out of every option to fighting women, so they have to rely on their age pill to cope lol.

Why would any non pedophile/hand maids tale man be attracted to a girl that's not even old enough to fvcking drink, that's fvcking pathetic

 

[HaleyBaron]

None of these women are under 20, I know I said 25 but I'll budge to 22 because she's had a year to be 21 at least. The only guys subscribing to this 18-20 age pill cope are old/butt hurt men that have ran out of every option to fighting women, so they have to rely on their age pill to cope lol.

Why would any non pedophile/hand maids tale man be attracted to a girl that's not even old enough to fvcking drink, that's fvcking pathetic

And there we go. The female answer: "you're not a pedophile are you? What about those hand maids, huh?"

Jake is a woman in disguise and explains all his discussions so far on this forum. I will take my guess that she is a lesbian.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

And there we go. The female answer: "you're not a pedophile are you? What about those hand maids, huh?"

Jake is a woman in disguise and explains all his discussions so far on this forum. I will take my guess that she is a lesbian.

Oh I'm a woman because I'm not over here obsessing over the wall and little girls 247? If you are older than 25 and obsessing over 18 year old women then you are really treading close, just saying.

 

[HaleyBaron]

I have no qualms with you going after the smelling c*nts of 30+ aging women. While you suffer another deranged woman, us actual men will be fine with the youthful bunch.

 

[Bokanovsky]

It is prime in physical attractiveness if the woman doesn't take care of herself and ends up fat with 3 kids by 25, you are damn right. However, if a woman takes care of herself then she looks better at 25-35 because she has aged in to her body, matured, and can still have kids.

So let me get this straight. You take a woman who is 20 and is in top physical shape (i.e. has a toned but not overly muscular body). Are you really trying to say the she is going to look better 15 years alter, at 35, because she has "aged" into her body? Unless you live in another dimension where time passes in reverse, that's just not how things work in real life. By the time they hit 30, most women will have wrinkles, cellulite and other inevitable signs of aging. Granted, some preserve their looks better than others (some MUCH better), but no one become more attractive through the process of aging.

Unless, of course, you are actually attracted to "aged" bodies. If you that's the case, you might be a gerontophile.

 

[2Rocky]

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[PRW63]

3) She can still have children without any risk of complications at this age range

No she can't. That is medical nonsense. The term "Prime" is in reference to her ability to reliably & consistently conceive and bear healthy children. It does not refer to when some guy thinks she is the "hottest", or her mental or social maturity.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

So let me get this straight. You take a woman who is 20 and is in top physical shape (i.e. has a toned but not overly muscular body). Are you really trying to say the she is going to look better 15 years alter, at 35, because she has "aged" into her body? Unless you live in another dimension where time passes in reverse, that's just not how things work in real life. By the time they hit 30, most women will have wrinkles, cellulite and other inevitable signs of aging. Granted, some preserve their looks better than others (some MUCH better), but no one become more attractive through the process of aging.

Unless, of course, you are actually attracted to "aged" bodies. If you that's the case, you might be a gerontophile.

No, I am saying that a 20 year old woman that wastes her body and years drinking/thotting/having kids out of wedlock will have peaked at 18-20 and never be able to recover from that. The damage will always show on her face, she will have kids with another man, and her emotions and mental thinking will be permanently damaged.

VS

The same woman that doesn't cash out her youth thotting/having kids, maintains a decent physical health plan, properly matures will have a HIGHER peak from 25-30 because she's still young and can have kids, she will be mature enough to properly attract a higher smv guy in his 30s to 40s while a girl that's not even old enough to buy a beer yet alone rent a car will only be able to secure relationships with younger guys and transactional sugar daddy relationships with older guys.

If you are going to sit here and tell me that a 25-30 year old girl is too old and ugly then you are either A) too young to understand or B) You never left or live in some hood/crappy town where the peak is 18-20 because they were never going to amount to **** in the first place or the girls with value leave the place as soon as they can. This actually tells me a lot about yourself because you are not used to being around higher value people. For example, if you lived in Malibu then you would be used to seeing hotter women above the age of 25 jogging/shopping around vs if you live in Fvckville, Ohio most of the women past 20 will be fat, pregnant, and a lost cause.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

No she can't. That is medical nonsense. The term "Prime" is in reference to her ability to reliably & consistently conceive and bear healthy children. It does not refer to when some guy thinks she is the "hottest", or her mental or social maturity.

Most older men do not want children. Imagine being post divorced with 2 kids at age 50 and meeting a woman, do you really want more kids at this point?

 

[HaleyBaron]

To me, women maturity is a death wish for men. It just says "she's going to be more annoying and bothersome in my life than I care for." I think is the wrong word to even use. Instead of mature, it should be they become hardened and jaded.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

You're changing your original premise. Based on your thread title, one would assume that you're saying a female that's took care of herself is better at 25-35; than that same female at 18-25. Obviously the 25-35 year old is not too old, but she's not as good as her younger self. I am of the belief that females don't really emotionally mature past say 15, so there is no advantage to the older version of the girl. They do mentally mature, but if they have the emotional maturity of a 15 year old, how are you going to connect with her any different?

Plenty of women aren't even fully developed at 18 let alone know how to workout. She could've been overweight at 18-20 or had other priorities and then fixed them by 23. Hell, I look better now then when I was at 18. This isn't gender exclusive either, if you take care of yourself you will look better in your mid twenties to 30s. You must live in Sharpsville, WV where people peak at 20 because they over eat and work stressful jobs at the coal mine because I really don't know what to say at this point. If I never left my shvtty hometown I grew up in then I would understand where you are coming from everyone looks like **** past 20, but sense I left that shvthole town I have to completely disagree with this logic.

 

[Bokanovsky]

VS

The same woman that doesn't cash out her youth thotting/having kids, maintains a decent physical health plan, properly matures will have a HIGHER peak from 25-30 because she's still young and can have kids, she will be mature enough to properly attract a higher smv guy in his 30s to 40s while a girl that's not even old enough to buy a beer yet alone rent a car will only be able to secure relationships with younger guys and transactional sugar daddy relationships with older guys.

Her physical attractiveness will still peak in her early 20's. Emotional "maturity" has nothing to do with physical attractiveness. You are comparing apples to hairdryers.

 

[Velasco]

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Girl in question at age 19

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Still looks good because of genetics but dunno why you'd prefer her current version over her younger self. Less miles, more naive