A Woman Tells You Why You Should Buy Her A Drink!!!

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What if one of the guys DID offer her a drink? Would that change your whole opinion about the guys just because they bought you a drink?

You weren't attracted and felt awkward around these two guys because they didn't have any game, NOT because they didn't buy you a drink.
When the guy had to be told to move, didn't offer to buy her a drink, and then took her seat, he had essentially blown all chances of even recovering his game with us.

We could do way better than that, is the basic philosophy healthy women would have. And we did!
 

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Iqqi this has nothing to do with buying a girl a drink "the right way" or not buying a drink. You were attracted to him so you liked him and reframed everything he did as a positive. This guy's reasons for buying you a drink aren't any different from any other guy that does it or for any guy that doesn't.

You're not telling us anything new that one guy can do same thing and a girl will interpret it one way postively or negatively depending on whether she attracted to his appearance and likes his attitude.

This guy had an advantage where the other guys were working up hill. He knew one of your girl friend's and was preapproved. The other 2 guys you gave an example of, your group gave a b!tch shield too and you all eye coded each other, not so with the guy that had an in. That's why he was relaxed. Your state was pumped that night at the bar from her own words, "All the guys were eye candy.." This guy used his in to his advantage and moved in on you while you were good and drunk near last call.

The same outcome would've happened if he didn't buy the drink for you. Bottom line it's a bad move to buy a girl a drink, you lose more often than you gain. The only time you win is when you would've won without buying her drinks anyway.

You did bring up one valid point iqqi, buying a girl a drink creates a hurdle for the guy to get over of the girl owes the guy something and the guy is trying to get something. Best to avoided that all together.
 

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iqqi said:
Frannie said:
It may be just me but this trait doesn't sound like one that is attractive to women other than those who feel that men should put them on top of a pedestal?

Which trait are you talking about exactly? A man who buys a woman a drink out of good mannerisms, or a guy who buys some random chick a drink hoping to get booty or attention?
You ARE a random chick, lol. I mean, did you know this guy beforehand?

Lets say I bought a woman a drink out of "good mannerisms" (I guess you mean a good "actor"), according to you, I'd be more attractive. However, what if my underlying intentions were to get "booty"? Meaning, you have no idea what my "true" intentions are unless you can read minds. You were simply impressed by the way he performed, which is (I know this can't be that surprising) what WE do to achieve the goal of getting some "booty". That's what this place is about, I'm sure you know.

We all have ways of achieving this common goal, but your advice is not "generally" a good practice. You already know what we're after the minute we start talking to you, even if you aren't thinking about it in exactly those terms. The attention you're getting (which women thrive on) is already enough information because if we weren't attracted to you, we wouldn't care.
 

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ketostix said:
Iqqi this has nothing to do with buying a girl a drink "the right way" or not buying a drink. You were attracted to him so you liked him and reframed everything he did as a positive. This guy's reasons for buying you a drink aren't any different from any other guy that does it or for any guy that doesn't.
Golden.
 

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iqqi got DJ'ed and she's trying to play it off like it was this guy's quasi supplication that made her wet.

He just did the wrong thing the right way and it worked. Good for him.
 

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Its all good in the hood! I understand many men are AFRAID of how they might look if they buy a girl a drink...

This post was to help you see that it is not always a bad thing to do.
All right. No argument there. But then the title of the thread should be: "A Woman Tells You Why It's Not Necessarily A Turn-off To Buy Her A Drink!!!"

It did look like the outcome would have been the same had he not bought you a drink.
 

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I'm the DJ that bought the drink for iqqi and she did come home with me.

While it's true she didn't let me have vaginal sex with her, she did let me put it in her pooper.

I never thought an anus could be so loose! No second date for her!

:rockon:
 

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STR8UP said:
iqqi got DJ'ed and she's trying to play it off like it was this guy's quasi supplication that made her wet.....
:crackup: :up: :crackup:
 

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All right. No argument there. But then the title of the thread should be: "A Woman Tells You Why It's Not Necessarily A Turn-off To Buy Her A Drink!!!"

It did look like the outcome would have been the same had he not bought you a drink.

I doubt it. I doubt he would have gotten my attention that night. But who knows. I'll break that part down a little more for you.

1. Iqqi in love with all the HBGUY10s surrounding her. Is heavily gaming with 2 HBGUYs on rotation.
2. Somewhat random HBGUYlessthan8 slips in, buys my drink. This gets my attention from other two guys.
3. Before I can give attention back to other guys, guy who buys my drink uses the initial introduction time to woo Iq a little with his intelligence and personality.
4. Iq gets chance to run, what with her commitmentphobias and all. Does this guy expect me to stay with him now all night? Most guys want something.
5. Guy does not harrass or badger Iq at all. Iq's thought process: Does not seem to expect anything from buying Iq and friend a drink! Does not seem phased if I just go away forever and ever. Seems as if he did it because 1. He can 2. He wanted to get my attention. Not keep it just because he bought a drink.
6. Iq feels better about getting to know this interesting and confident and not bitter guy a little more. And is a little intrigued, to boot.


The point I am trying to make is one that is already understood by few and will never be understood by many. Drink buying really is not an art. It's just that so many seem to confuse it as something more than what it is.

Of course buying the drink for me is not what got him as far as he got. What DID was he got my attention in the first place by stepping in how he did, buying my drink (w/o asking by the way), and then following up with manly qualities I don't see often.

Some guys have this down naturally, they never even think they are doing something wrong because it is just not that big of a deal for them, like it seems to be with some. They don't think about it much at all!

My point is to maybe shed some light of the poor little doomed and confused souls on here who think that to buy a chick a drink is to sell your soul to the devil aka womankind! And forever live in a hell of AFCdom.

This is not the case! Just don't be the guy that buys every chick you see a drink, and don't feel like you are owed anything either!

I'm not saying
that he bought me a drink = he got the Iq! Or that his intentions were or were not to get the Iq in the first place. I am not even saying anything about his overall intentions.

I think that if he DIDN'T get the Iq, it wouldn't have broken his heart or his wallet! Or his spirit!

I AM saying that he got my attention, and then my respect and interest, all starting with the way he bought my drink....
 

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Of course buying the drink for me is not what got him as far as he got. What DID was he got my attention in the first place by stepping in how he did, buying my drink (w/o asking by the way), and then following up with manly qualities I don't see often.

Some guys have this down naturally, they never even think they are doing something wrong because it is just not that big of a deal for them, like it seems to be with some. They don't think about it much at all!
That's the thing. A lot of guys just make it too complicated.
 

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That's the thing. A lot of guys just make it too complicated.
I feel like I am making it more complicated, lol!

So I keep trying to reiterate a few points IN BOLD to make it clear what i am saying.

1. Do not buy every h0 on the street a drink! Just like you shouldn't waste your time with every h0 on the street!
2. If a random chick in any kind of way demands a drink from you as if you are a supplicating pvssy... she is not worth your time! And maybe you should evaluate if YOU are someone coming across as a supplicating pvssy. This is especially true if a NON random chick is demanding you buy her a drink... this means she KNOWS you are a supplicating pvssy, and you want the punani badly enuf she can tell you what to do with your wallet.

having said that...

3. It is tacky/turn-off to have a wack principle stating you just do not buy girls drinks period. This implies that you have money issues/stingy issues/woman issues, and is not attractive in a man!
4. You should never do anything because you expect something in return! This also applies to buying drinks for ppl... ppl including women.

And lastly...

5. NO, drinks will NOT get you the punani. But if you buy a drink the right way (w/o expectations or demands), and follow it up with good game, you might get somewhere fast!
 

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5. NO, drinks will NOT get you the punani. But if you buy a drink the right way (w/o expectations or demands), and follow it up with good game, you might get somewhere fast!
How about:

5. NO, drinks will NOT get you the punani. But if you approach the right way (w/o expectations or demands), and follow it up with good game, you might get somewhere fast!

Good game is saying a mouthful. That all the I'm saying.
 

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I feel like I am making it more complicated, lol!
You are. :p

Good game is saying a mouthful. That all the I'm saying.
... or not saying a mouthful, to put it in a different context. Good game often involves more listening than talking, and lots of non-verbal stuff, which quite frankly is the part of it that most appeals to me (and not just in the sense some might be thinking) ...
 

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iqqi said:
1. Do not buy every h0 on the street a drink! Just like you shouldn't waste your time with every h0 on the street!
And just how are you supposed to determine if a chick is a "h0" within ten seconds of meeting her?
 

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And just how are you supposed to determine if a chick is a "h0" within ten seconds of meeting her?
:yawn:

Unyoung Grasshopper, ahhh. So much to learn!

Obviously you cannot tell within 10 seconds anything about anyone, for real. But actually... you can and should be able to tell something about a person just from their body language/way of dressing, ect ect... But that is another separate topic!

To get deeper into the context of what you quoted, don't buy 20 different women drinks! Not even 10 or 5! If you are doing this, something is wrong. Buying a girl a drink should not be your standard MO of cold approaching, but it also shouldn't be something you are afraid of doing.
 

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iqqi said:
To get deeper into the context of what you quoted, don't buy 20 different women drinks! Not even 10 or 5! If you are doing this, something is wrong. Buying a girl a drink should not be your standard MO of cold approaching, but it also shouldn't be something you are afraid of doing.
So you are supposed to pick the ONE who looks the least like a "h0" and buy her a drink?

As a general rule I do not buy drinks for anyone but my friends. Certainly not for someone i have known for less than a minute.

Buying drinks for a woman you don't know = supplication, no two ways about it.
 

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Iqqi, you liked him and him offering a drink didn't hurt his game, leave it at that.

I've had several occasions on which female friends complained how sleazy guys are in the club who offer to buy them a drink. On the other hand, one of these girls approached a guy she liked with the "let me buy you a drink". Go figure.

As a general rule, for guys, it still stands: do not buy drinks, it's risky. Do something else.
 

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Iqqi, you liked him and him offering a drink didn't hurt his game, leave it at that.
I didn't even know him to like him... And there is a better than great chance I never would have paid him any attention at all since I was "busy" with other better looking men.


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As a general rule, for guys, it still stands: do not buy drinks, it's risky. Do something else.
LOL! Risky. You're so cute.
 

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Your endless capcacity to rationalise (in a self content cheerfull voice) your choises is astounding. Do not take this as an insult, but you are a prototypical woman: no shame, no regret, no reflexivity, no doubt. You are like an AI who's passed the Turing test.
 

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Your endless capcacity to rationalise (in a self content cheerfull voice) your choises is astounding. Do not take this as an insult, but you are a prototypical woman: no shame, no regret, no reflexivity, no doubt. You are like an AI who's passed the Turing test.

Hmmm. I see.

Having said all that, can I buy you a drink? :D
 

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