A true Don Juan

[Chamber36]

Rubato, I am going to have to disagree with you.
First you say

he has a great deal of projected confidence. I'm very skeptical that he's actually a confident guy. If he was wholly secure in himself, he wouldn't be such a scumbag.

And then you say

This man has only one DJ TRAIT - confidence.

Does he have it or not?

Also, you claim this guy doesn't take good care of himself, yet he has his back sack and crack shaved every other day. If anybody's well groomed on that Jeremy Kyle episode, I'd say it's him. And look at his teeth, they are straight and white! He also owns a security business. Sounds to me like this man has his things in order.

With regards to him not respecting her, why do you think he doesn't respect her enough, and what do you think he should do differently?

He likes her cooking, and he said it several times. He looks like he appreciates her and he couldn't do without her, he just doesn't want to marry her or have children. It's just his lifestyle choice imho.


Jeremy Kyle's questions: "does she give you butterflies in your stomache?" sound like a bunch of ****-tests to me, which Murray passed with flying colours. The guy is hilarious: "she shaves my back sack and crack every other night. I'm on all fours every other night." The whole audience was laughing. It's a little embarassing for her, but it's funny.

She claims he calls her fat and ugly... But she IS fat and ugly... I can imagine him blurting that out if they get in a fight or something. It's a low blow, but people aren't perfect.

As to his cirrhosis of the liver. He shouldn't have drank so much, but he's now on the wagon, so this man sounds like he's alright.
Besides that, he still married her 2 years later. I assume he's running his game properly to make her wait so long. At least he knows that she's completely in love with him. Mission accomplished.

 

[perseverance]

Chamber36, that's an interesting perspective.

However, this man could be making up all of that stuff. I mean it makes for great television doesn't it? I'd certainly say he has confidence, but he is not the type of man I want to emulate and if this woman had half a brain cell in her tiny, pea brain she'd walk away from him because he is no good.

When asked why she is with him, she couldn't answer the question. I reckon she is with him because a) she is desperate and b) her biological clock is going haywire.

I doubt any woman with a modicum of intelligence, sense and standards would be seen anywhere near that man. He's on Jeremy Kyle, hardly a good look is it?

 

[floydb25]

I find it hard to believe that they're just acting on here. This is a classic case of the kind of "bad boy" relationship you hear about. It's not the good girl being attracted to the bad boy - like you hear so much about. This girl isn't the victim she potrays herself as being... Trust me, they all do this.

She's depressed, has low self-esteem, probably some daddy issues, and other abusive relationships... This is the kind of girl who seeks after this kind of guy. She blames him for everything, and yeah, he is trouble, but she's the one intentionally seeking him out. Girls like this love to *****, have drama, and anything else to keep the negativity going. You can just tell by the way she is. Half of the problem is her. She always has a choice.

I can almost guarantee that other genuine nice guys offered her a better alternative - like she claims to want - but pushed them away... Probably used them while complaining about the jerk, and all the usual BS.

I see this kind of situation happening all the time. These aren't the innocent nice girl victims they come off as. They're only nice to the jerks, and usually do the same things they ***** about to everyone else. They don't want a nice guy, or they'd be seeking them out. Most of them feel like they don't deserve any better, and you can't cure them with love and affection - because they shy away from it. These girls are a mess.

The problem a lot of guys make is sympathizing with this kind of person, believing she wants a nice guy, proving how great and different they are... Only to get burned, and conclude that all women want *******s. Nah... Only this kind of "woe is me, life is unfair" professional victim does.

Seeking after a girl like this is only asking for trouble. Follow what she does - not what she says. Don't get caught up in this vicious cycle - where everyone involved is chasing after someone who doesn't care about them. Everyone who does this - including the nice guy - has the same issues of low self-esteem, approval seeking, settling, desperation, etc. Round and round it goes. Becoming a jerk will only attract these kind of low quality people into your life.

It all starts and ends with YOU.