A thought on looks

[TheFixer14]

I was re reading Death Note (a great manga and just a spectacular piece of writing) after a long day and came to this panel where the lead character was sewing. The demon character noticed this and this exchange occurred...

Demon: You can see? Bet the girls love you.

Lead: Yeah, but sewing's got nothing to do with it. Looks are all that count.

Then in the next panel the lead says to the demon: you're not popular with the ladies, Ryuk?

It's an interesting exchange that holds some truth. I've noticed that the more and more physically attractive that I get, the less work that I have to do to get a woman's attention. Add to the fact that I am not even in the dating headspace and I have gotten a decent amount of attention as of late.

I was with a friend and a friend of his that I had just met last night walking on the Santa Monica beach after sunset when these two girls were aggressively looking for something. One was cute and the other was... well not.

Anyway, one friend said something lame and the girl said that they were looking for something. He tried to continue talking. But the convo went away.

My friend decided to start talking to her. Now he isn't a scrub. But he doesn't really have game and I definitely have superior game over him. He's seen me in action and nick named me the player.

So he begins talking to the cute girl and as I walk up she almost instantly turns her attention towards me. She asks for me name, where I am from and begins to make small talk. I haven't even shown any interest in this chick and she is already giving strong IOIs. Her body language was the bigger tip off.

Just as my interest was somewhat pegged, the guy that I just met asked if they wanted to hang out with us right out of the blue. He is a nice guy and has good energy. But no real game. And is ***** obsessed. She of course said no. After that I knew it was a loss cause and I didn't like how she treating the other guys and I ejected us from them.

But, my friend decided to give it another go unsuccessfully. She ended up ejecting two minutes later.

He asked me why I ejected early and he commented on how she was clearly into me. I told them I was interested in her and I didn't like her attitude. And it was clear that she wasn't interested in them. They all agreed.

It's funny, we can talk about game all we want. But, if you can be a good looking guy then half the work is done for you.


It's actually probably part of the reason why I stopped dating. I'm basically an Oreo with a hard edge. I'm starting to believe that non black women date me to satisfy some sort of fetish.

Remember, in the end if you got looks, you can win a hell of a lot easier.

 

[Infern0]

If you want to be successful then you should be maximizing your looks all you can.

I've said before that 9/10 guys that complain "it's all about looks" are nowhere near maximizing their look potential.

Take some skinny fat guy with a nice round race all full of water and sodium. Bad skin, a crappie haircut and no facial hair game or fashion sense. You have the average 5/10 "it's all about looks" Dude

Put said guy through a couple of 12 week training camps, get him a good body, give him a haircut and shave and put him in stylish clothes.

You've got a 7.5-8/10 guy who suddenly finds that women actually notice him.

It's not rocket science.

 

[narcissist]

okay looks are good and all for initial attraction but can you function properly in a relationship and keep a high quality girl? thats more impressive.

 

[Steady Eddie]

If you have looks, it's game, set and match.

"Here's your trophy."

 

[bigneil]

Remember: women rate looks as pass/fail. If you ask her whether you are a 7 or an 8, she will think you are a 0.

I've found that every girl I have dated has two qualities:

1) She is immediately highly attracted (you must have chemistry)
2) One of her close friends agrees (you must pass the reference check)

When you walk away from two women, they will reach a consensus on whether you are hot or not. Unless they both say you are hot, you have no prizeability. If they both think you are REALLY hot, each will want to brag about getting you. "Remember that hot guy we met? We went out last night! I'm in love!"

 

[Milano]

Yeah I have thought about this a lot through my life as well, and ofc I have seen guys you cant believe would get a girl like that actually do, but one cant base the system on those minor events. Most guys get girls that are around their level, or perhaps even a level below. That is the easiest to deal with, and I sometimes believe this is the only way to make a relationship last unless you are a successful high achiever which most men are not.

You want your looks and style to pass her social circle, and from there you can radically increase her interest level by having good enough game, exciting life, status etc. There is no denying that you can get laid more easily by having a v-taper and a good jaw, but if that is all you have you will ofc also be frustrated. I myself was not blessed with a v-taper at all, I am naturally tall and skinny, so to get the "manly look" on myself is a lot of hard work, but I believe it is well worth eating those meals everyday and working out to get the type of physique that when you take your shirt of girls compliment you. That is a very nice experience for your ego, and makes you want to keep going.

Its so true what Corey Wayne says about success: people will not believe or understand why you are working hard towards something, they might not see the meaning themselves, I find specially something where the odds are against you. I recently had an older guy in my class, 35 +, giving me this advice: "Your strength is your humor", be yourself". Which is a cool story bro, but being a clown isnt gonna get you laid, im a proof of that. It can push some buttons, but if your physique or game is not up to par you will not get her home. EVERYTHING is important so might as well work hard to fix those areas you know are not good enough.

For skinny guys trying to gain weight - start by looking at your crappy meals right now, look at how much protein you are missing out on that should be in every meal. Find a rotation that you can live with nearly every day, some spices that you can eat often that makes the chicken go down.

 

[El Payaso]

You can also get away with a lot more.

 

[wifehunter]

Looks for women vs. Looks for men.

To end the debate...

Looks for women are not about physical features but how men carry themselves.

1. Frame

2. posture

3. confidence

Will all shine through, making someone with low to average physical features, look good.

Looks for men is easy and more obvious.

If you have a good frame, confidence, and posture... You WILL look good, regardless if your physical features/genes.

Exception: If you're morbidly obese, because fat is not sexy, in any case.

 

[SmooveMooves]

Looks for women vs. Looks for men.

To end the debate...

Looks for women are not about physical features but how men carry themselves.

1. Frame

2. posture

3. confidence

Will all shine through, making someone with low to average physical features, look good.

Looks for men is easy and more obvious.

If you have a good frame, confidence, and posture... You WILL look good, regardless if your physical features/genes.

Exception: If you're morbidly obese, because fat is not sexy, in any case.

This ends no debate. If you have a round face, fat, and bad teeth no amount of "posture," "frame," and "confidence" is going to make up for that. Actually, at that standpoint confidence becomes delusion. Before tackling any of that men need to be maximizing their looks from the getgo. Go to a dermatologist if need be, save up for the dentist, workout, learn to dress properly etc.

 

[wifehunter]

This ends no debate. If you have a round face, fat, and bad teeth no amount of "posture," "frame," and "confidence" is going to make up for that. Actually, at that standpoint confidence becomes delusion. Before tackling any of that men need to be maximizing their looks from the getgo. Go to a dermatologist if need be, save up for the dentist, workout, learn to dress properly etc.

That has nothing to do with genes...

But sure, I agree, I didn't account for guys who let themselves go, or don't give the slightest care to hygiene. If your not taking care of yourself, it's a turnoff.

If you going to put the house on to the market...fix it up!

 

[bigneil]

If you have a good frame, confidence, and posture... You WILL look good, regardless if your physical features/genes.

That is, if you are healthy also. Beauty is health.

 

[RedZone]

Sure , some people are insanely good looking or insanely bad looking, but I would say most people fall into the average range. Some a little higher, some a little lower. The goal is you never want to leave your house thinking, "If I was better dressed today..." or "If I got my haircut.." because you'll be going into a losing battle if you happen to see an attractive person.

 

[wifehunter]

That is, if you are healthy also. Beauty is health.

For me, health and hygene are standard everyday priorities. I feel very embarrassed and uncomfortable if I slack on these, so I don't.