hey guys
brief intro.. im a 21 year old guy from melbourne, australia. i have always been successful at picking up hot random women in any place; on the street, in clubs, at school, on the beach etc. women of all ages, backgrounds and hotness levels, even the real beauties. my mates called me a natural. however, when it came to making a relationship more than just sex, a true bf/gf relationship last longer than a couple weeks, i was a failure.
also, i never really had much success with girls i have known for a long time (in school or work etc) or girls i have been friends with. they would always say they dont want to get involved coz "once we've had sex you will just move on and forget about me blah blah" even though this isnt true. i always suspected there was a deeper reason these girls rejected my moves to take things physical.
i knew it wasnt my appearance or techniques, coz like i said i have heaps of success with random women.
a mate of mine who is amazing with women and always seems to have the hottest gfs recently introduced me to all this seduction crap. well thats what i thought it was, crap. when he showed me his computer full of word docs written by random internet dudes with ridiculous names like mystery and david d i started to laugh uncontrollably. it was hilarious. he was always my hero, the coolest guy in the world, and all this time he was secretly reading up on this stuff on the net. well after reading it i realise its pretty dam good.
i must admit i was very sceptical, the way everything was analysed as a science seemed to take the fun out of picking up. but now i have figured out my problem. everything i do when i approach girls is recommended by these so called experts. its like that david d dude has been stalking me when i go out clubbing. BUT the way i had been acting afterwards once i had ****ed these girls, you guys would call AFC. i was too nice. it all makes sense. same thing with girls i met who i was only interested in as a friend at the time.
so thanks to every guy that has wrote an article on this stuff. i feel enlightened. its all so simple, it makes so much sense, yet i was blind to it.all i had to do was keep doing what was working. yet i foolishly was an afc and tried to be all nice and lowered my flirty nature, thinking it would make them perceive me as long term bf material. what an afc lol
anyway enough rambling, and on to my question. the damage has been done with all my long term lady friends and acquantances. i have been too nice to them and theres no turning back now. but what about the other girls i have only known for a short time.. im thinking that although some damage has been done, maybe its not too late. or is it? i have been away from home for the past 3 weeks.. i start university and work again this week. this is a fresh start. there are a few new friends i plan on picking up. im planning to just go for it, act like we have just met and do all the things that work so well with random girls. just flirt my ass off and go for the kiss asap and hope they forget what an afc nice guy i turned into since we met. hopefully they will remember the sparks of attraction that were there when we first met (they were definately there) and forget when they started to disappear when i acted afc (after reading alot of articles on my mates computer and this site i realise i def turned afc).
well thats it, i hope it all made sense. basically to summarise my question into something more basic; do you experts recommend i proceed with this strategy, or once u have acted afc with a girl even for such a short time its too late? or perhaps, you can recommend an alternative strategy? maybe take it slower and slowly escalate and rebuild the attraction?
i really dont know, its hard for me to think logically when i have always just done what my gut says. my gut has got me ALOT of success, but only short term success, so maybe you guys can help me out.
i just realised how much i typed, so thanks for reading all this stuff written by another random internet dude. i promise im a real person and not one of those troll dudes haha so any responses will help out a fellow guy
cheers and hopefully i can write back in a week with some stories of succes that last longer than a one nighter!
azza
brief intro.. im a 21 year old guy from melbourne, australia. i have always been successful at picking up hot random women in any place; on the street, in clubs, at school, on the beach etc. women of all ages, backgrounds and hotness levels, even the real beauties. my mates called me a natural. however, when it came to making a relationship more than just sex, a true bf/gf relationship last longer than a couple weeks, i was a failure.
also, i never really had much success with girls i have known for a long time (in school or work etc) or girls i have been friends with. they would always say they dont want to get involved coz "once we've had sex you will just move on and forget about me blah blah" even though this isnt true. i always suspected there was a deeper reason these girls rejected my moves to take things physical.
i knew it wasnt my appearance or techniques, coz like i said i have heaps of success with random women.
a mate of mine who is amazing with women and always seems to have the hottest gfs recently introduced me to all this seduction crap. well thats what i thought it was, crap. when he showed me his computer full of word docs written by random internet dudes with ridiculous names like mystery and david d i started to laugh uncontrollably. it was hilarious. he was always my hero, the coolest guy in the world, and all this time he was secretly reading up on this stuff on the net. well after reading it i realise its pretty dam good.
i must admit i was very sceptical, the way everything was analysed as a science seemed to take the fun out of picking up. but now i have figured out my problem. everything i do when i approach girls is recommended by these so called experts. its like that david d dude has been stalking me when i go out clubbing. BUT the way i had been acting afterwards once i had ****ed these girls, you guys would call AFC. i was too nice. it all makes sense. same thing with girls i met who i was only interested in as a friend at the time.
so thanks to every guy that has wrote an article on this stuff. i feel enlightened. its all so simple, it makes so much sense, yet i was blind to it.all i had to do was keep doing what was working. yet i foolishly was an afc and tried to be all nice and lowered my flirty nature, thinking it would make them perceive me as long term bf material. what an afc lol
anyway enough rambling, and on to my question. the damage has been done with all my long term lady friends and acquantances. i have been too nice to them and theres no turning back now. but what about the other girls i have only known for a short time.. im thinking that although some damage has been done, maybe its not too late. or is it? i have been away from home for the past 3 weeks.. i start university and work again this week. this is a fresh start. there are a few new friends i plan on picking up. im planning to just go for it, act like we have just met and do all the things that work so well with random girls. just flirt my ass off and go for the kiss asap and hope they forget what an afc nice guy i turned into since we met. hopefully they will remember the sparks of attraction that were there when we first met (they were definately there) and forget when they started to disappear when i acted afc (after reading alot of articles on my mates computer and this site i realise i def turned afc).
well thats it, i hope it all made sense. basically to summarise my question into something more basic; do you experts recommend i proceed with this strategy, or once u have acted afc with a girl even for such a short time its too late? or perhaps, you can recommend an alternative strategy? maybe take it slower and slowly escalate and rebuild the attraction?
i really dont know, its hard for me to think logically when i have always just done what my gut says. my gut has got me ALOT of success, but only short term success, so maybe you guys can help me out.
i just realised how much i typed, so thanks for reading all this stuff written by another random internet dude. i promise im a real person and not one of those troll dudes haha so any responses will help out a fellow guy
cheers and hopefully i can write back in a week with some stories of succes that last longer than a one nighter!
azza