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ok so i live in wales now. and i really don't know anyone. so i went to gte my hair cut at the local market. cos i don't know any other place.

so i wait to get it done and i spy this cute girl cutting hair. so it's my turn up and the cute girl starts talking to me.

so we get a convo going about random stuff. you know about drinking and things stuff like that. just random stuff.

then she asks if i have any friends. i didn't sweat it. i just told her i had none. witch is true. this place is full of old folks.

so she finishes up and i had her my phone and tell her to put her number in... i got the best excuse yet! she told me she didn't know her number. i didn't even sweat it. i just paid and left.

and you know. i am proud to say i asked for her number. i didn't even feel funny or anything when talking to her like i used to. i felt confyfor the first time and it felt great. sucks she didn't give me her number cos she was cute. but whatever. i thought i didn't enough to at least get a flaky number.

i guess she didn't cos her mother was sat not to far from where we was so. but whatever.
 

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i've learned that honesty generates confidence. When you say something you mean, you tend to say it in a way where you show your confident. When you combine confidence with the acceptance of reality (girls are human) it turns into a really powerful tool.

If you ask her out and she says no, atleast you know you tried. Don't worry about the people that judge you as they are the ones that wish they had the courage. Approach things in the simplest way instead of devising all the ultimate master plans.

Good job on keeping it real.
 

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Good for you, Packers!

For future reference, her question might easily have been a qualifier. I don't know how you answered her question, but you could always say "I'm brand new here and am just starting to create a new social circle. I'm looking for quality people to make friends with. How about you? Are YOU a quality person?"

Her: Of course I am!

Hmmm... I guess I'll take your word for it... (almost reluctantly, as if against your better judgment). Here, put your number in here and we'll see.

That, of course is my version of 20/20 hindsight. You did a great job. She might have a boyfriend, any number of things. But you were man enough to go for the close. That's the way to take care of business.
Respek...
 

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Packers2010 said:
thanks guys means a lot to hear it from the higher ups. you know.
I need to correct u on 2 counts. First off this was not a small step , it was a HUUGE one. Secondly there is no such thing as higher ups. If there is then u are a higher up as well. You just don't know your value. You need to realize that making mundane conversation is the same thing every guy does. They are just passionate about what they say. You need to go to God and ask him for your hearts desires. Note no one on this site mocks God as much as they may be atheists. That should tell you something. Serious punishment befalls those who mock Him directly. Anyway back to you...you need to value yourself. If God made you in his image and he's not a failure then how can you think you are?
 

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Atom Smasher said:
Good for you, Packers!

For future reference, her question might easily have been a qualifier. I don't know how you answered her question, but you could always say "I'm brand new here and am just starting to create a new social circle. I'm looking for quality people to make friends with. How about you? Are YOU a quality person?"

Her: Of course I am!

Hmmm... I guess I'll take your word for it... (almost reluctantly, as if against your better judgment). Here, put your number in here and we'll see.

That, of course is my version of 20/20 hindsight. You did a great job. She might have a boyfriend, any number of things. But you were man enough to go for the close. That's the way to take care of business.
Respek...

whoa whoa whoa. advanced concepts here sir.

well i could have asked her for a drink when we was talking about it. i mean, i did kind of put all my eggs in one basket when i asked at the end. cos if she says some no. then i kind of have to take it cos the hair cut is done. but if i had asked for her number, say to go for a drink later. i could still ask at the end anyway to be friends. so.

but looking at it now i did a good job.
 

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YAboi said:
I need to correct u on 2 counts. First off this was not a small step , it was a HUUGE one. Secondly there is no such thing as higher ups. If there is then u are a higher up as well. You just don't know your value. You need to realize that making mundane conversation is the same thing every guy does. They are just passionate about what they say. You need to go to God and ask him for your hearts desires. Note no one on this site mocks God as much as they may be atheists. That should tell you something. Serious punishment befalls those who mock Him directly. Anyway back to you...you need to value yourself. If God made you in his image and he's not a failure then how can you think you are?

what i men't by " higher ups" as people who have been in the game longer.

i mean you guys know your ****, well more then me anyway. so i consider you to be above me in that respect.

to put it simply. You guys are ALPHA!
 

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Hey Packers,

Nice work.

Something to try for next time:

When you ask for a number or date form the question with a "Why don't you ________" format.

ie. "Why don't you give me your number and we can chat sometime?" or "I'm heading to xyz for a drink later tonight, why don't you join me?"

The "why don't you" forces them to answer the question with something other than just a simple "yes" or "no". Many times when you ask a question formed in this way it causes the person to pause and think about their answer. Even if she is trying to come up with an excuse, it is this pause that throws them off. Any excuse they come up with after the pause will appear to be a lie. In many cases she will agree to your request just to avoid the awkwardness of being caught lying.

Now, in the moment, this may seem sneaky or manipulative but your goal is to simply get the number. You can work on charming her and the seduction part later.

You can use this open ended question format in all your conversations with women. For example:

Wrong way
You: Hey this is a cool place. Do you like working here?
Her: yes

Right way
You: Hey this is a cool place. What do you like about working here?
Her: Well blah, blah, blah, blah.....

Don't give her the chance for a simple "out" by using a yes or no response. Force her into talking. You can create a great conversation without actually having to say much at all. Just use open ended questions and get her talking. Chicks love to talk about themselves and even if you haven't said much, you leave the encounter on a positive note.

P.S. Being new to an area is a great opener or conversation piece.
"Hey I'm new in town, why don't you _______?"

Keep challenging yourself!
 

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Slickster said:
Hey Packers,

Nice work.

Something to try for next time:

When you ask for a number or date form the question with a "Why don't you ________" format.



You can use this open ended question format in all your conversations with women. For example:

Wrong way
You: Hey this is a cool place. Do you like working here?
Her: yes

Right way
You: Hey this is a cool place. What do you like about working here?
Her: Well blah, blah, blah, blah.....


P.S. Being new to an area is a great opener or conversation piece.
"Hey I'm new in town, why don't you _______?"

Keep challenging yourself!

you know something i did use this a little without knowing it.

we was talking about welsh and witch words mean what and i said something like. " oh your going to have to write me down a list" or something like that.

i think i did it a few times. but in a different way to how you said.

tho your example is great and i will be sure to use it in the future.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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