A RAT IS A RAT, Boys we've been sold out

[DoubleA]

Fellas,

This Thursday night on ABC Primetime. They're going to talk about "Suave" guys who hit on women by starting out using "put downs". The preview said ladies tune in and learn all the tricks.

FvCK! Boys, we've been had. Some dude is going to spill his guts to some reporter. Apparently whomever he is, they say has written books on how to get women, that hundreds of guys are reading.

Do you think this will affect your field reports in the near future?

 

[stevera004]

It's probably this dude, he's writing a book due in Sept.

http://seductiondigest.com/neil-str...ey-spears-the-game-reganbooks-isbn-0060554738

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Heheh,..and you think that this will 'enlighten' women in any way to anything they haven't already understood since they were what? 12 years old?

Pointing out Achilles heels only states the obvious.

 

[DoubleA]

Pointing out Achilles heels only states the obvious.

Written by R. Tomassi

Well, what happens the rat realizes that clicking the buzzer DOES NOT provide it with cheese. There is no positive stimulation. I mean we aren't dealing with rodents. These are women for Pete's Sake. I believe it will still become a roadblock, if you start having women look for neg hits. I thought they were most effective when unexpected?

If I neg hit on a woman who in turn denies me the access to her ego, by becoming even a bigger head case than previously. What do you think I'd have to do to counteract her non interest? Turn AFC on her? I mean how can I turn her on and get her panties wet if she can't naturally be curious in my manner?

Yeah, HB's. But tell me.. How many of you guys actually use negative hits on women anyways? I mean I think I can't use them because, Hell I'm considered to unapproachable at times anyway.

Pointing out a weakness only adds more armour. IMO.

 

[SAYNO]

Well..

Knowing-wingly or not women will still repond the same way to neg hits.

Its in their nature to respond a certain way to males who neg-hit and it will continue to time immortal.

A cave man would neg hit her literally and just take what he wanted.

See, biologically women are preprogrammed to men who are ****y!

Natural process's continue on wheter we are aware of them or not.


Sayno

 

[picard]

oh crap. I hope that guy doesn't know about this web site. We will be cooked like a goose on X-Mas if ABC news get a hold of this website. If you guys see him on the street, beat the heck out of him.

someone should tell him that we beat the crap out of rats.:trouble:

 

[iveyleeger]

Like any new trend this one will fade. The original hardcore will settle down or sell out, and the rest will go mainstream and get diluted.

On the upside there may be fewer AFC's overall, meaning fewer men abused by women.

 

[flexion_]

Everything we do folks isn't some cookbook - its an art that evolves in each of us with experience.

No one can take that away from us. The only people that should be worried are those that think being a DJ is a simple grocery list and don't actually live it.

 

[DJDamage]

Your game should transcend beyond this board. Part of being a good seductionist is getting your sh1t together and be the best man you can be. The majority of guys with no game are lazy and are looking for quick fix pick up strategy to get them in bed with a chick.

Those guys will fail, you will not.

 

[penkitten]

even if they found out about this exact site...
how many will take the time to become members and post and read actual threads without giving up?
and who the heck could guess who you were just based off our bunch of member names?

 

[Ricky]

You know what. Whether i know this **** or not, it helps get the girl, but keeping a girl and finding the right one is still the most random game in the universe.

I don't know what to think about it really.

 

[Ricky]

BTW, most likely they will spin these guys as the sleaze of the earth.

So we should be ok.

 

[Ricky]

I did buy the book on Amazon (preorder) should be an interesting read.

 

[Tboner]

This public exposure will have insignificant impact.

How many people have seen the following movies that show exact techniques to seduce women?

Wedding Crashers, Alfie, Tao of Steve, Hitch, Swingers

There will be far fewer people watching this show than the total of those movies.

Will it change women? No, even if they understand pickup, they will willingly submit to it because it's what makes them feel good. Sometimes I use NLP patterns and then weeks later, the women will ask me to talk like I did before.

Will it change men? Maybe one-in-a-million. You know how men are.

50% will not watch it because of a sports event at the same time.

20% will miss the content because they're wife refuses to let them watch.

10% will be too cheap to buy the materials, thinking it's a scam.

8% will disbelieve and say "That can't possibly work."

5% will be interested, but will put it off just like going to the gym.

5% will not understand it because they're drunk or stoned.

1.8999% will buy the materials, but never use them.

0.1 % will not watch because they're too busy f***ing a hot chick they just picked up.

0.0001% will watch the show, get the information, understand it, field test it and see results.

 

[Nightwing]

Originally posted by MacDiddy
Won't make an IOTA of difference... Primetime viewers are not the desired PUA demographics anyway..

So they expose NEG-HITS... which were designed to combat 9s and 10s snobby behaviour... this behaviour won't change and nor their response..

Most 9's and 10's are too fvckin dumb to watch Nightline.

 

[Bradshaw]

Neil Strauss has a book coming out on the seduction community. There is a discussion on it in the anything else forum. Here is the link.

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=77925

Prepare for newbies in the next few weeks.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Originally posted by Rollo
Written by R. Tomassi Pointing out a weakness only adds more armour. IMO.

Not necessarily. That's the key now isn't it? Knowing what works by being better able to read what works. I wouldn't worry so much about being 'found out', that's not what this community is about (or shouldn't be about) anyway. Neg hits are technique, they're a tool for a specific job - I wouldn't use hammer when I need a pair of pliers, but when all you have is a hammer then every challenge looks like a nail, get it?

A while back some guy posted here about how his girlfriend had come across this site after he'd left his laptop running while logged in and the guy was panicking, "oh my god, she knows,...SHE KNOWS!!" So what? Same thing here, so what? It's not like she's caught you doing something she wasn't already aware of and guys (unconfident ones) act as if she caught him fvcking a blow-up doll. If you're so clumsy using negs that a woman figures out your game on her own it's the same principle as your girlfriend 'finding you out' isn't it? It's all about being the PRIZE and being able to use a neg as the result of the confidence this mindset affords a man. Too many guys simply lack the confidence to even consider using a neg hit. It's not about specialization, it's about adaptability. Specialized animals die off when their conditions change, those with the ability to adapt to them thrive.

 

[DoubleA]

Specialized animals die off when their conditions change, those with the ability to adapt to them thrive. Written by R. Tomassi

True.

But I honestly don't believe all these different techniques are necessesary in disarming some HB chick that most dudes only want to sleep with. Not keep.

I don't even think this fool will even disclose what's in the book, for the record. He might just want people to buy the book. If he's smart. I'm also willing put up money that he also includes other techniques as well. Neg hits, phone calling, approaching. But even now the creep who sits outside some chicks window now has snowball in hells chance of getting some.

Personally give me confidence anyday. It's all I need in the Nation's Capital. Half the chicks out there aren't about anything anyways.

What does this board represent?? NO DJ'ing. But alot of dudes who don't use this to get the girl and keep her. But as one dude said this thing has become nothing more than guys getting an easy lay from girls. NOT trying improve themselves by raising the conscious of how they live and the things they do.

 

[jefe96]

It seems like unless some chick psychologically re-trains her brain to identify and shoot down any kind of DJ 'moves' then there is nothing to worry about. If you're trying some canned pickup lines or something someone else said then you're most likely going to be labeled a phony anyway and be shot down.

A person still has to come across as natural and being himself. The techniques (neg hits, C&F, mysterious) naturally trigger things in a woman's brain to bring on attraction. Sure, they dont' work evertime on every person. It is pretty much a proven fact though that if you're calling or emailing a girl 10 times a day then she is more than likely going to be bored with you and next you.

Just my opinion, but everything about attraction occurs naturally. Beyond looks there are psychological 'tricks' or techniques to bring it out. Some people are born with the ability, others (like myself) have to re-train themselves to act that way.

 

[MacAvoy]

I came across this article today, I don't think they were referencing our site, but one very similiar. They also mentioned David D, Ross Jeffries, and the Gunwitch Method. The article was a preview of a book coming out Sept 6:

The Game: Penetrating the Secret Society of Pickup Artists

Apparantly Columbia Triastar has already picked up the movie options on this.

http://www.macleans.ca/culture/book...5_111485_111485