A Rant/ Needed Advice

[PrettyBoyAJ]

1. Well I graduated college December 11 with a Masters degree in ****ing business administration. I got a bachelors degree in accounting in 2011. I been applying for jobs for a month straight and I'm not even getting calls or nothing. This is straight up bs. I tryed linkedin, I tried indeed, careerbuilder, and monster, accounting principals and accountemps. I'm not getting calls from nobody but ****ing recruiters. This is ****ing bull****. Why the hell am I not getting ****ing call backs. How do you expect anyone to have experience with anything if you dont give anybody a job to get experience.

2. my gf went back to the college we used to attend together. She is an hour and a half away. I can't even see her as often as I want. Sht sucks to be real with you because we have gotten so close. Closer then anyone I have ever been with in my life. Just sucks to be able not to see her often.

3. I went to visit my GF today. Left my moms house at 2pm and came back at 12:22. When I had came home my dad asking me what time it is and ****. I told him 12:22 and he is like why am I late? I'm supposed to be home by 12 midnight. I was like I can't help it, I'm 20 minutes late. He then starts to raise his voice and I was like whatever. He then tells me I have to be home by 11....

I'm honestly thinking about packing all my sht and just living in my car or sum sht until I get a job. I honestly think of this as an option. Can easily go to my old apartment and sleep on the couch. But wouldn't be wise to be there too much since I missed out on rent this month even though I'm still on lease to be there.

I am 22 years old and have a ****ing curfew PERIOD. Im 22 with 2 ****ing degree and live with my parents.



This is one of the rare times where I'm lost losing my cool. I feel like I'm losing my mind because I'm not in control. I feel horrible as sht. Fkn bull****
:cuss: :cuss: :cuss:

Really would want some career advice though.......

 

[goundra]

man up and move out. If you aint got a mini-van to camp out in, get one. Get a small motorbike or mountain bicyle for running errands. All you have to do to avoid trouble is move the van each morning and evening, not by far, either. 1/2 mile and around a corner will suffice. Go to the day labor hall, for now, get a minimum wage job and save your money. go online and look for JB Hunt and other 18 wheeler outfits that will pay for your training as a trucker, and contract with them for a year. 3 years of driving, if you do it right and get a 3rd world woman as your -co driver, cross country, and you will have enough $ saved to open the small biz I speak of all the time. 1-2 years of that and you will be set, financially. The gal will probably divorce you after she becomes a citizen, (5 years) so beware. Set up an ironclad prenuptial agreement with an attorney! Don't say I did not WARN you.

 

[Sir Psycho Sexy]

What kind of relationship do you have with your parents? Life will be much easier if you can live in harmony with your parents until you have the resources to move out. But for many college grads moving back home after having 4 plus years of freedom can be very difficult. Do some research on how to make the transition easier, there are tons of articles on the internet.

Here is a good article provided by my good friends at The Art of Manliness. The last half of the article should be useful to your situation.
http://artofmanliness.com/2012/06/2...-while-maintaining-at-least-a-little-dignity/

I cant give you much advice on how to get a job in your field because I know nothing about your job market. If you aren't already doing it you should be applying to the lower entry jobs that still pertain to your degree. Since you're living with your parents money shouldn't matter....experience does. And you can always continue to look for that big paying job you want so badly while working as a grunt getting that all important experience.

This fall after graduating I will be moving back home with my parents and over an hour away from my girlfriend unless I get a full time job so your post struck a nerve.
http://vimeo.com/27933991
^I watch this whenever I'm feeling discouraged about my career

 

[btownbuck2012]

I graduated from a Big Ten University this past May with an excellent GPA. I completed one internship during my college years, and after I graduated I completed another internship in Washington DC this past summer (June-August), and I'm in the same boat as you. What's really frustrating is that while I was interning in DC I was getting a-lot of calls back from people to interview, but I wasn't offered any jobs. Here I am 5 months later and I'm still unemployed, but now I'm back in f*cking Indiana.

It's like I've dropped off the face of the earth to employers compared to the responses I was receiving this past summer. It's the economy dude. It's THAT bad. Jobs are getting 100+ resumes for 1 job opening. They can be as picky as they want. It sucks, I know.

 

[speed dawg]

First of all, why are you not living in an apartment where you're actually still under lease and paying rent? WTF? Something doesn't add up there. If you just left without paying rent and are now just avoiding the apartment, then that tells me alot about your character.

Two, are you asking for too much money? This is an employer's market, not an employee's.

What's wrong with talking to recruiters? Can they not help you find a job?

Go find some other low-paying job, pay off your rent that you signed up for (ie fulfill your contract like an adult), or pay the early termination fee. In that time, keep looking for an accounting or business job.

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

I had a lease at my apartment at my school and it was supposed to end this August. I paid the rent with the money that I had received from school. In December my Dad was sitting there telling me and forcing me to move all my stuffout the apartment and find a job in Atlanta no matter what. I had an interview for a job out there by my apartment and when I told him about it he sat there and yelled at me and told me no.... move back home and find a job in Atlanta and I did.

I can't afford to pay rent. I told the maintenance that I graduated and wouldn't need the apartment a month before I just had to move out.

Recruiters ain't doing nothing and I'm not asking for anything really. Anything over 40K I will take. Entry level accounting is usually 40+....

I'm applying for every job that I can. I'm looking everyday and applying everywhere. I would love to go back to my apartment. It would make life way more easier I just cant afford the 405$ a month.....

I can actually feel myself getting depressed and losing my mind. For 4 1/2 years I busted my butt to be able to do anything I wanted when I wanted and this definitely gave me all the confidence that I could ever want. This transition is taking a toll on me and I feel that I am crumbling.

 

[Bible_Belt]

How much do you owe in student loans?

It's tax season. Can you get a $12/hour temp job doing tax returns for H&R Block?

You're not a CPA yet, right? That might be a reasonable excuse to return to school if you have to. The real pressure is on when the student loan people starting wanting you to make loan payments.

And if you're ever at the point of completely giving up on being a productive member of society, you can always apply to law school.

 

[5string]

22 yrs old and you have both your undergrad AND an MBA?

Kudos AJ

Keep up the job search and remember.....you win from within.

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

I had calmed down from last night and I'm thinking logical. I think the best thing to do in my life is just get ANY type of job so I can be fully autonomous. While I'm autonomous I can go ahead and look for a career slowly and at my own pace.

So I might talk to the manager of my old apartment. Ask if I can catch up with this months rent. Find a full time job near there and just move back in my apartment, whilst I look for a career in Atlanta. My boy said he can hook me up with a temp 3 month full time job.

My parents are too strict. I'm just going to say screw them and just leave the house. It's sad when a 22 yr old man is getting money from his mom anyway. Even though it's only enough for gas.

Thanks 5string. I sent you a message a couple weeks ago but you ain't respond. I was trippin then too.

 

[5string]

I had calmed down from last night and I'm thinking logical. I think the best thing to do in my life is just get ANY type of job so I can be fully autonomous. While I'm autonomous I can go ahead and look for a career slowly and at my own pace.

So I might talk to the manager of my old apartment. Ask if I can catch up with this months rent. Find a full time job near there and just move back in my apartment, whilst I look for a career in Atlanta. My boy said he can hook me up with a temp 3 month full time job.

My parents are too strict. I'm just going to say screw them and just leave the house. It's sad when a 22 yr old man is getting money from his mom anyway. Even though it's only enough for gas.

Thanks 5string. I sent you a message a couple weeks ago but you ain't respond. I was trippin then too.

AJ

Just looked in my inbox and didnt see anything. If you would like to talk, pm me or we can talk on the phone. I really do wish you luck.

When I was an undergrad, I was not living with my parents. I was however on the GI bill, working two jobs and eating toast with warm peanut butter on it because that was all I could afford. Times were tough for me at that time. I paid back my student loans as the GI bill was not enough to cover my education at a Big Ten University. I hung in there and you should as well.

As I said....win from within brother. Face it. You are now paying your dues for the future. With your determination and education, you will surely overcome. I'd put my money on it bigtime.

 

[AAAgent]

I'll be straight with you AJ just like i was last time i posted in your thread.

You have an MBA. Use what you learned in school and plan your career.

Map out your strengths and weaknesses. You should know how to do research, so research the positions you're applying for to make sure you're a proper fit. Most of the time people tend to apply for jobs their under qualified for hoping to be that one lucky guy.

Are you trying to apply for a job that pays you 70k? 50k+? If so, do you qualify? Just because you have an MBA doesn't make you qualified. At 22, you likely have little work experience which is why most MBA's PREFER students to work 2 years before school starts.

Check out the position your applying for and the skills that are required. Check the salary/compensation on Glassdoor website. Are they paying within your range? over? under? Be very critical and honest. If you lie to yourself you ruin your chances of success.

When i first graduated 4 years ago i was trying to break into the finance world in nyc. I realized that compared to the cream of the crop i was probably very very low candidate potential. I applied for all the jobs that i wanted but didn't qualify for any of them now that i look back. I was trying to stretch my resume as much as a could, sometimes even lying and got caught a few times. I had very few call backs even phone screens and never passed any interviews. I realized i was lying to myself. I wanted to make 50k coming out of college like some of my friends, but i realized i was probably able to pull 35-40k being entry level. So i faced the facts being pissed off at myself for not doing better, going to a better school etc. and started applying to jobs i thought i was too good for. It turns out those jobs actually fit better for me, i was able to get interviews, and eventually landed a job.

Learn your market, learn about your competition, and then practice for your interview. I have extensive experience in job searching and breaking into my field. Let me know if you have any questions.

 

[Burroughs]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZYsl8tvamk

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

^ That mess is hilarious. Now I'm not a smoker and I will never smoke again in my life but yesterday I thought to myself and said I'd bet I'd be good if I was smoking. But that just ain't my stilo.

To AAA, Thanks for the advice man. I'd say I'm applying only for jobs 30-45k. I don't have delusions of grandeur. I'd pretty much take any job in my field for over 30k. I don't need much to live. I just need an apartment, gas, and food and a little something to pay off my loans in school.

I owe around 40,000$ in loans.

I'm applying anywhere from Accountant to Financial Analyst to Accounting Clerk to Accounting Associate. I have never applied for a job where it asks for 3+ years experience. Everything is 3 or less years of experience. I wouldn't waste my time applying for a manager job or something to that nature.

It's just that a majority of these jobs ask for prior experience. I have 6 months bookkeeping experience but thats it. While I was in school I was more focused on school then trying to get internships and jobs. I graduated with a MBA in 4 and a half years. I guess my mistake was going through school too fast.

But I realized my mistake was not having my own $$$ coming in. If I did I could just have a part time job to pay for my apartment and wouldn't be suffering at my parents house. I'm getting Anxiety foreal.

I know I'm going to be straight once I first put my foot in the door but I'm not about to live in my parents house while they telling me where and where i can't go and when and when not to go home. I'm too grown for that. I shouldn't have to sneak out to see my girlfriend when I'm 22.

 

[AAAgent]

If you're not getting calls back for positions of that caliber with your credentials, they probably find you over qualified or under experienced. I was under experienced and could not get a job because all the jobs that were hiring required experience. Seemed like an impossible situation since you can't get experience without getting a job but jobs won't hire you without experience. Just like a Series 7 license.

The way out is temp/contract jobs. Take temporary positions as an analyst, accountant, etc. Account temps orstaffing agencies for temping/contract jobs are all over the place. This will fill your resume gap and also put some money on the table while gaining relevant experience in your field. The last job you want to take is a job totally unrelated to your major just to make money to hold you down. It just puts a larger gap on your resume, gives you no relevant experience, plus you can't even mention it in an interview because it looks bad.

Do lots of reading on your free time (relevant to the business world/where you want to go). I had no experience but i knew that i needed to better myself to get a job/better job. So i worked on bettering myself everyday. I read on trading, technical analysis, M&A, i learned about what bankers do, lawyers, P/E ratio's. Once i learned these, i filled the gap in my resume by trying to come up with my own ideas to make money since I still wasn't getting jobs and i couldn't let the gap in my resume grow any larger or it would be suspect.

Hey, no one was hiring me so i needed to do something to better myself and occupy my time/show that on my resume, i was indeed busy. I started research projects and even convinced people to hop in on my new venture. I was researching ROI on pharma drugs from development through all clinical trial phases to marketing. Basically was trying to gather data on how much pharma companies spent on bringing a new drug to market and how long it took them to get their ROI on that drug. This way, when a new company wanted to start a similar drug, they can see about how much they might need to spend. I got all this information from annual reports, scouring through keyword searches, etc. I spent no money on this, just alot of my free time. In the end, its a win win for me. If my idea failed (which it did), i atleast learned enough about what i wanted to do to be able to intelligently explain it and put it on my resume to fill the gap. It made me more knowledgeable about a new industry as well.

In a nutshell look for temp jobs to get experience, read to get knowledgeable, work on side projects that can occupy your time and fill your resume gaps.

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

Ok Social I sent you an email. Every Accountant's dream is to get some experience in Big 4.

AAA. What can you put on your resume to fill in the gaps?

I done went from having my apartment, having no rules, having my own money now all that is gone. and I can't even kick it with my significant other like I want to. Maximum is once per week until I get this apartment and job. I feel miserable and will be miserable until I change this luck. I've done had more negative feelings in the 2 days then I have had in my entire life. Stupid ass slump.

 

[backbreaker]

go sale cars

1. you will actually be making money right now
2. if you have a serious work ethic you will make it
3. If you get good at it, they will eventually move up to F and I which I don't see as HURTING your resume by any stretch. but **** by this time you should be making more than most accountants make anyway.. a good F and I guy is going to pull 100-150k a year.


the hours are ****, but you will get real world experience, and eventually you will get to deal wtih banks on an everyday basis. **** you might actually like it. plus you are young and have energy and ****.

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

I honestly had a gig 2 years ago where I was selling cars. The reason I didn't follow through is because I missed the first day of work due to my then hoodrattish GF.

That might be something that I might have to look into I'm definitely not trying to work nights though and be out and work 60+ hours a week. But at this time I will pretty much take any job so i can get the hell out of this BS I'm in and become autonomous.

 

[backbreaker]

I honestly had a gig 2 years ago where I was selling cars. The reason I didn't follow through is because I missed the first day of work due to my then hoodrattish GF.

That might be something that I might have to look into I'm definitely not trying to work nights though and be out and work 60+ hours a week. But at this time I will pretty much take any job so i can get the hell out of this BS I'm in and become autonomous.

you really don't work nights. well let me put it this way, if you are working nights it's a very good thing, ti means you are selling something. nothing was better than the late night sale / strip club combo lol.

generally it's 8:30 to 7pm with a day off off. you're 22 man that **** is right up your alley. good money great experience.

 

[BeDJ]

I couldn't find a job after my bachelors and sold cars for 2 years.

-Excellent communication skills
-Gaining the trust of others
-Reading body language
-Overcoming objections
-Being Competitive
-Customer relationship

It's a tough environment, motivation is absolutely necessary. The experience is rewarding. I'm now selling IT and wouldn't be as successful if it weren't for the dealership.

If you can sell a car, you can sell anything.

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

Well I said screw it. I've applied for damn near over 40+ jobs today. I started with the financial jobs and then I told myself I have an MBA. That's broad so I started applying for a lot of marketing and management positions as well.

I might not do the accounting thing because it is very hard to get into it. I think I would rather do something in Marketing anyway because I've been told I had a good strong voice and I can be a sociable person. So I know for a fact I will be getting calls tomorrow. I definitely put my bid in today.