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I have been reading through the mASF site for a while now, and I have been through many of the posts and some of the DJ bible. I have a very specific question for my situation.

I am out of college, and currently running a one man show (for work), so I don't have any colleagues. I also don't speak the local language very well yet. Therefore it is quite hard for me to meet women outside the club scene.

My problem is the biotch shield. (DJ bibles suggestion on approaches do not work on this) Now I am an attractive guy, and I notice that many very hot women give me the eye (and sometimes I can hold their stare) in the club scene - but if I say Hi - they ignore it completely (maybe because they are in a group of girls - but that is not always the case)- and they will still look at me after that!! And yea they do speak english. I'm not at all the kind of person that can memorize routines and lines and convery them naturally - it is totally incongruent. I find the DJ concept more natural, but the only "tactic" I have found for this is the NegHit that is described on mASF. Is there a more suave way? (Gunswitch will not work on these babes)
 

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Dude, this is about social class. A girl can be seen as a slut in certain sociaties by dating foreigners....

Try it at the store by asking for help (for example ask for directions, restaurant, post office), you know, get them talking. Same at the coffee shops or book stores. Ask for help, then ask what's a good place to hang out?

I did this when I was in Korea for two years with great results.

-Sapiens
 

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hehe

you don't know much about Russia do you? :p Russian girls L O V E foreigners...that is their WEAK spot...they all want to get the hell out of here!! Slut here means nothing...if you listen to the radio every 10 minutes there is an AD that says come to our clinic for VD testing. FREE for prostitutes!

There was a study done here a while back, and do you know what the top career choice for girls was? You guessed it! A teacher makes $150 a month here...any hooker can make 10 times that amount.

As far as culture/society goes there is a real deficeit in that department - all these concepts were destroyed in the Soviet times - morality was the state and that was it. Also the social elite was wiped out and all that remained was a working class. Today it is about being flashy, wearing D&G stuff (even fake), and who has the biggest car. Every girl aspires to look like a catwalk model. But it is also about just having a wild and fun time - that is the part where I want to come into ;)

No all what we are talking about here is plain old biotch shield...they can't fvck every guy that approaches them...and they get approached by hundreds.

But in spite of all this I have met some quality girls. But they think different even then - sex is normal, and foreigners treat their women much better. Also the male to female ratio in Russia is close to 1:2.

The downside to this is that they are used to the male playing a very very dominant role, much more so than what you would be used to in the US. They don't believe in democracy in a relationship really...it is percieved as weak, and will be taken advantage of. Since I am not from here I am abit too AFCish - I get the attention but following through has been hard.
 
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Jamo,

You answered your own question!

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yes i know

But i have fvcked up so many times that I need validation at times :D My inner game has been shot to pieces :mad:
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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LOL, all of us been there!

Dude, like they say on this board....Sarge on!
 
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