a question from a bouncer

[emsgiver]

hey all, I have not posted before, but have been quietly listening and learning over the last few months,, im far from a DJ but I am making tremendous leaps towards it. for some background,, I got out a a three year thing about 5 months ago and lost all my skills, but finding them everyday. I now am back in school I am 29 and work as a bouncer at a big night club,, I am 6foot8 285 not fat,, well built nice physiquie,, always told I am good looking, handsome, hot , great smile , great eyes.
I do believe truely in the fact that its mostly about attitude and game, not looks,, because many times I wont close or get the number I knew I could.
One of the problems I find myself in is that many times when I do get a number,, the call back is a bust ,, it fizzles or they dont call me back,after I call them the first time, or leave a message with my number on it, becasue ussually I dont give out my number ,, it take theres,, I dont offer mine.. , but listen, 9 out of 10 times, they give ME the number,, or I get it when all the signals say they want to,, not like they are just appeasing me,, so I must admit that I am doing better on face to face initially but I seem to falter after a few dates, or on the first phone call,, any suggestions as to what i am doing wrong or not doing ?

 

[Ice Cold]

Cool dude, you'll playing in no time

With that physique you still need game, but they'll be more forgiving if you mess up. Still better for you.

Looks like you're not active enough, that's what is wrong with your game. Go out there and post some field reports.

Read this, it's the best overall explanation of the seducer I've seen so far:

http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=41697

 

[BRYCEicl]

fuk numbers. get down right there, isolate isolate isolate!

 

[white_hype]

if youre a bouncer try this one out and tell me how it goes

tell a girl (who is interested) lets go to the "VIP bathroom" or some room where you can get her alone and trying F'ing her

tlel me if it works

 

[Celadus]

Do the girls usually give you their number when you are working? Maybe the phone calls go nowhere because they thought flirting with you would get them in the door.

Just a thought. I don't know.

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

could be your conversational topics - how is your wit and sense of humor? if a girl gives u a number she is interested but maybe it was the scene that she was in at the time - u know clubbing with her girls - drunk - drugs- lights - music - ambiance - bouncer (making her friends jealous)

but once she is out of this scene she still sees u as the bouncer at the club and not as the man she wants outside of that environment - u r pigeon-holeing yourself - dont pick up the club-hos (i know its easy) try approaching woman outside of that environment and when she gives u her number she probably really does want to talk to u! Practice your cold approaches outside of your work (club) environment. Rememer 99% of these hos times r not spent at the club but on the streets.

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

maybe they r scared u might beat them up if u get them alone

or they might see ya too much as a player - bouncers r always at the clubs around *****s "where would that leave me", they say.

 

[emsgiver]

RE:

well guys,, thanks for the advice,, a few things,,
the whole VIP room thing,, well were I work it would be tough to do.. at least at the moment,, I am still new to this place , about a months just getting to really know everyone, and the ins and outs. But I will try it when I am more settled and let you know. Does anyone want me to write a journal? would that be interesting and a learning experience for me? I dont know how many times a nite guys come up to me and tell me I have the best job in the world.. **** last week I was escort to a Girls gone Wild Camera session. does anyone live near a Graham's Central station? It is like the wal mart of Night Clubs, they have like 50 or so in the US. I must admit there are many reasons to be nice to a bouncer,, but most these women are like this after they are allready in,, and in reality rarely do we VIP past the line,, so i dont think that would be a ploy. there are the women that I see and flirt with, that I dont try to close with cause they either are flirting hard, in front of a boyfriend or I just know that they are playing up to me,, the others I do try and get somewhere with... Maybe in my ****ed up way of looking at things,, I have it backwards and I should be ignroing the the other ones and picking up on otherss,,
I get felt up and kissed by women all night long,, Like ill trade marty gra beads for kisses ,, numbers,, tit shows,, **** like that,, anyway I know I kind of got off the subject there,, but you know what I am in a prime position arent I? or maybe not,, I dunno,,
I try to approach off of work,, but I am still shaky a bit all im my head I know,, sometimes, Ill recognize females from the club and thats a good way to open to them, but yeah alot of my self esteem is when i am working cause I do have the power,,
its kind of funny to ,, when everyone is leaving and the drunk women with BF come out,, theres been a couple times, when hot women,, will kiss me good night,, and fondle me all over right in front of there boyfriends,, its kind of funny to see this chump be all pissed and freaked cause of it,, hell like grab her hand and stomp off, I didnt ask for it so phuck it,, I didnt make her or ask her to do it....
ICE COLD,, what do you mean by not active enough? i just wanted a clarification..... so I can understand better..
I do have a good sense of humor,, I am funny,, and My game is a B-/B+ not perfect if it was I wouldnt be here,, right?
I can understand the fact about the whole Im a bouncer thing,, women being all inot me at the club and not in real life,,,but I see other guys,, that I can honelsty say are not as good looking as me, with game getting more than me,, so Its all about how I play it,, or how Im not playing it,, any suggestions? questions? let me know ,, have a good one thanks for the replies..

 

[Ice Cold]

I meant you making your moves ONLY when you're confident she's gonna say "yes"

In other words the girl has to be rubbing titties in your face to make you act. It puts her in control and gets you less ***** than you should have.

I find that my best seductions are when the girl is always pushed towards intimacy. I meant that you can try that too.

 

[emsgiver]

Ill give it a try tonight,, I have to work in a while,, ill see what happens....
will let you know thanks