A question for guys in here that are not ethnically white or black.

[AbbyShake]

so that practically includes all the non-white latinos, browns (indians, pakistanis, arabs), asians, and just about any guy that is not ethnically white or black.

Do you feel like looking the way you have has actually helped you in the game or hurt you?

It seems like in the USA at least, the common belief (not sure if it is true or not) is that white men (of any euro background) are the most desirable and black men are great for women who want to experiment. All other ethnic groups hardly seem to matter at all to Americans. While seeing white men with latina and asian women is extremely common, it rarely happens the other way around. So I wanted to get the opinions of guys in here who happen to ethnically be in the categories I mentioned.

 

[corrector]

There are threads that have already been written on this topic. That being said, I consider myself not to be ethnically white or black but of mixed-race.

All I can admit to is that I've had "manenvy" (a term coined up by RSD) where you feel that if you looked a different sort of way that you'd simply have an easier time with the ladies. If a bad case of "manenvy" means you do not have feel that you have "permission" to flirt with women, but other types of guys have that permission or are even expected (i.e would be offensive not to) flirt, and can also get away with anything with the lady (i.e. groping, etc...), then obviously that would hurt your game. After all, if you try to flirt, you will feel like you are "trespassing" or "harassing" a lady and if you go into flirting contact feeling that way then that would probably reek of insecurity and become a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I think manenvy can have different manifestations. If I were white, then I'd start looking at other buff or muscular whites, or maybe I'd say if I had blonde hair and blue eyes I'd be better off if I had black hair, etc... it really doesn't end unless you have the stereotypical looks that people associate with beauty.

 

[ztas]

I'd agree with AbyShake. I've often felt that being white, and preferably over 5ft 10 really helps.

No matter how good my 'game' is, I know that all things being equal, if I was white I would do a lot better

The other associated problem with the non-white or non-black races is that generally speaking they are also smaller built, and not the true outdoorsy/macho lifestyle types!

But that's what we're given, so we do the best we can. Dress and groom extra well, be extremely witty, have a lot of non-women interests.

Overall, reading the articles on this forum have, I think, improved my game, though I know my success rate applying these principles would be so much easier if I was white.

Having said that, if I was really good looking, regardless of colour, that would also help no end!

 

[cola]

The real issue is putting white women on a pedastool.
its not that you can't get girls that troubles you, it's that you can't get white girls.
Well let me tell you, white puxzy ain't nothing special..

Id be doing you a disservice telling you if you are iranian you would have a harder time getting a white woman. You are.
However, there are some hot ass chicks from
Nepal
Iran
Turkey
Iraq
India
Pakistan.
And these principles taught work just as well on them.
You can get white girls, but there are hot women from your native country who'd love you to death if you applied these lessons, and itd take less effort on your part.

But if you insist that its white women you want(I dunno why, they are annoying. Women from other countries are much more submissive, and less likely an attention *****)
Buzz your hair and get jacked.

 

[Genos]

To be honest (as an Indian), I haven't felt I was particularly disadvantaged when talking to white women, or women of any race in particular. I haven't had great success with white women, but I haven't felt like they're just totally ignoring me either.

What's funny is that as an Indian, foreign women from the Indian area (surrounding region, etc.) just...immediately have an attraction for me lol. At my university, there are many international students, and all the foreign women students from the South Asian subcontinent just seem to instantly find me attractive and take a liking to me (my theory is that as a Western American, but still an Indian, I'm sort of 'exotic' to them). It's kind of uncanny, and it's given me a small taste of what it would be like for the stereotypical popular college dude.

My roommate - who is also Indian - has a gf who is an hb8 asian bombshell. My roommate's 5'4 & super skinny btw. I mention this example only to show that there are few things outside the realm of possibility, if that helps your confidence and gives you inspiration.

Bottom line though man, who the hell cares. Give attention to the women who are interested in you. Improve yourself, and you'll find that the number of women who do so will rapidly increase, regardless of your race (or the woman's race).

 

[PeasantPlayer]

Latin men are probably 2nd most desired after white men because of all their admixture (latino is not a race BTW) You got Latinos of all different colors.

Afro, Indian, White, Mulatto, Asian, Tri-racial latinos. Most don't know their history but you get what I am saying.

Is this the guy obsessed with white women?
I like hot women period.....
As for white women and latinos I have had a few tell me they would prefer a black man over a latino because latino men act to feminine lol

 

[skinnyguy]

I've had dates with white women but I can't seem to date the hot ones.

Some Indian women like me but they have a lot of baggage. Or too much of a prude.

I love Latinas though....

 

[AbbyShake]

I feel like particular types of white women seem to really hate foreign looking races, they all seem to have that look. Usually it is light blonde hair (usually fake), fake tan (or sometimes no tan), lots of money spent on clothing to appear sexy, and most of the times they run in certain crowds. A lot of these women are the types that desperately want to chase social status so I think foreign looking men outside of a white looking latino will have a tough time with them. I have personally never met or seen Indian, Asian, or Middle Eastern men who have done well with this type.

As for women, I honestly like white women the most and exclusively go for them, something about colored eyes and lighter skin attracts me. What I have found is that foreign white women and white women who don't care about chasing social status are interested in men that look more exotic. I have found that some of these women in fact like men who look exotic as well.

The sex is beyond amazing with these women.

I think that any foreign looking guy who has his **** together, has learned game, and is willing to chase after various types of white women instead of just sticking to the blonde bimbo types will have a lot of success. Russian and Slavic girls seem to really love Asian and Indian men from my experience, by this I mean they love the westernized ones not your stereotypical FOB.

Most non-white foreign looking men would be best off avoiding the blonde bimbo types that are so commonly found at bars and clubs.

 

[thelonewolflegend]

Nope my dad is short 5 feet iranian dark skinned he bagged my mom who was good looking and said hes had one night stand picked up girls from casinoml. Telling u personality and confidence can trump dont worry

 

[YawataNoKami]

I am puertorican , mom is white ,red hair,blue eyes(also puertorican) , dad is dark skinned , brown eyes. Me coffee with milk ( a lot of milk ). Mostly date white or latin (whatever the hell that means). Helps if you have an accent just like me..........

 

[PeasantPlayer]

I'm mostly attracted to Hispanic and Middle Eastern women. I am having a mean streak fetish for white women, it started like 2 months ago, but is slowly going away. The white women I like have to be curvy and have dark eyes usually. Something about a blonde with dark brown eyes is so appealing to me right now. I'm not a big fan of colored eyes, they seem kind of empty and soulless to me.

 

[AbbyShake]

The kind of women that really get me going are White with dark hair or brown hair, pale skin with freckles, and colored eyes. Now add tall and curvy (not fat) to that list and you have my best lay ever which was from a woman who looked a lot like my favorite pornstar (Kimberly Kane), especially in the face. We dated for a while and had a ton of sex which was amazing, she knew how to suck a **** and would suck me clean, total freak.

I can't even describe the feeling either, for some reason I love the contrast between my brown skin and their ghostly pale skin during sex, they seem to love it too.

Fortunately, I have found that those types of women are not too hard to land if you're an Indian or Middle Eastern guy with some game and the looks.

 

[foreverAFC]

Is this the guy obsessed with white women?

yes, this the indian race troll guy who spent way too much time watching movies and shows like saved by the bell and american pie and then couldnt get over the fact that his highschool and college years werent similar to the fantasies that all of those movies cultivaed in his mind and doesnt understand why he cant date girls that look like tiffany amber theissen and shannon elizabeth, we've been over this a million times with him, he just cant get over it and nothing anyone tells him will make him feel better

 

[mangotot]

I feel like particular types of white women seem to really hate foreign looking races, they all seem to have that look. Usually it is light blonde hair (usually fake), fake tan (or sometimes no tan), lots of money spent on clothing to appear sexy, and most of the times they run in certain crowds. A lot of these women are the types that desperately want to chase social status so I think foreign looking men outside of a white looking latino will have a tough time with them.

Women chasing status will not like non white guys. This is an interesting point. Is there a real way to identity these women except for their clothing?

 

[El Payaso]

The Indian race troll strikes again. So obsessed with white women.

 

[SmooveMooves]

I find that White women do not like Indian men. At all, not a Lil bit. Gotta get over it fam. Either you date chicks who do like you or you become gay.

 

[Dhoulmagus]

Asians and light skinned latinos have it far better off than blacks in the dating game. Idk where this myth that black guys can pull any ***** we want comes from.

 

[mangotot]

I am a dark skinned dude and I live in Europe. I have a harder time of it with more attractive hot (think 8+ rating) American women I encounter here. I think it might be a cultural thing. It is obvious the more lighter skinned you are, the more chance you got with white women.

 

[Dhoulmagus]

I am a dark skinned dude and I live in Europe. I have a harder time of it with more attractive hot (think 8+ rating) American women I encounter here. I think it might be a cultural thing. It is obvious the more lighter skinned you are, the more chance you got with white women.

Cause America has been obsessed with the concept of race since the colonial times. Most colonial nations are similar like this. It doesn't help that white people out right deny that racism exists and chimp when it is brought up. This site proves my stance perfectly.

 

[AbbyShake]

Asians and light skinned latinos have it far better off than blacks in the dating game. Idk where this myth that black guys can pull any ***** we want comes from.

What you say can be true but if we're talking White American women then it is definitely not the case. The girls with northface jackets, yoga pants, ugg boots, and bleached blonde hair would most readily go for a black man of all the minority groups, unless you count white latinos like Antonio Banderas as minorities which I don't.

I find that black men have an advantage over other minority groups when it comes to getting with most White American women or just Anglo women in general, among other kinds of women the advantage does not seem to be as big or even exist. In my experience, I have found that Russian women tend to actually like non-black minorities more but that is just my experience though.

I find that White women do not like Indian men. At all, not a Lil bit. Gotta get over it fam. Either you date chicks who do like you or you become gay.

Your findings don't exactly match my experiences, unless you're talking White American women from more affluent families who are conscious of their social status, in which case you are correct.