A Natural History of Rape: Biological Bases of Sexual Coercion

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http://www.samsloan.com/rapeevol.htm

When this book first came out it raised a major controversy. I was involved with some of the debates occurring in the philosophical community.

I'm not advocating this, but I feel the hard truth about the Alpha males that we have evolved from, which you may be trying to re-invoke, were actually rapists. Not a rapist like the sexual frustrated man in the alley, but like a lion who grabs one of his girls by the main and takes her.

It's also interesting that a large percentage of women have a rape fantasy. They desire sexually to go through the motions of forceful sex with someone they trust. And, cant orgasm without that level of stimulation.

If this all sounds strange, remember that our alpha ancestors were not resorting to the Mystery Method or some website for how to act alpha. They simply were, and took whatever pvssy was rightfully theirs.

Evolution has just made our job a little more complicated and interesting.
 

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Its probably true.

A lot of science that is true is probably pushed under the carpet because it would be inflammatory to bring up.

This is one of those issues.

And before some moron questions no I am not for modern males engaging in this.

In fact since I am anti death penalty I would advocate life in prison for this crime and not 15 years or less which it seems most rapists get as to me that just seems far too lenient for a crime against humanity like this is.
 

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My angle on this is that I've several times been with very hot girls who want me to be more aggressive in the sack, and when i say more aggressive i mean they basically want to be made to feel like they have no control over the situation. I'm pretty aggressive as it is, but this was unbelievable... One girl wouldn't get wet until I was slapping her around and calling her all sorts of things. She was certainly incredible sexually though. I didn't mind it at first, but when it became a consistent thing I began to realise it was a bit too disturbing for me. Absent father issues, that sort of thing. The two kinkiest were law students and also nymphomaniacs. Emotionally pretty cold too. Patterns continue to emerge.
 

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There is an idealist thinking pattern within the Bondage/SadoMachocist lifestyle which clearly states who is utterly in control at any given moment in a relationship.

The are different modalities between the Master/Slave paradigm but always clear boundaries which are never crossed without consent.

I think much of our human interaction evolved from this paradigm. Sexually there will always be one partner as the aggressor or physically dominant archetype. Thus, you'll need to balance that dominance with an equal submissive or passivist.

Neither of these positions are wrong or bad, they merely give each of us a chance to allow that aspect of our sexuality to breathe and grow.

Which comes full circle with Plate Theory.
 

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Does this mean the more aggresive I'm in the sack (till a certain level ofcourse), the more she'll like it? :cool: Time for fieldtesting that...
 

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Eaglecreek said:
Does this mean the more aggresive I'm in the sack (till a certain level ofcourse), the more she'll like it? :cool: Time for fieldtesting that...
It's a powerful aspect within a man's congruence within his sexuality to release that primitive, animalistic with his women with the sole intent on pleasing her. This does not encompass fvcking her when you're angry or in a foul mood. This will only lead to detrimental feelings and cause a break in the sexual energy which should be flowing between you and your lover.

Sometimes a woman enjoys submitting totally to us but they have to be completely trustworthy that we appreciate that submissiveness and will not ever betray that. Once she knows we'll protect her from any negative influence while under our care, she'll do anything you want. Without guilt and with full intent on your pleasure.
 

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KarmaSutra said:
It's a powerful aspect within a man's congruence within his sexuality to release that primitive, animalistic with his women with the sole intent on pleasing her. This does not encompass fvcking her when you're angry or in a foul mood. This will only lead to detrimental feelings and cause a break in the sexual energy which should be flowing between you and your lover.

Sometimes a woman enjoys submitting totally to us but they have to be completely trustworthy that we appreciate that submissiveness and will not ever betray that. Once she knows we'll protect her from any negative influence while under our care, she'll do anything you want. Without guilt and with full intent on your pleasure.
Meaning......
I shouldn't do it? I'm not talking about slapping her :p I'm talking about being in control to be honest... Anyway guess its kinda hard to explain what I mean, so no other solution than to really try it out. Only thing left to do now is try to pickup the HB9 that works in the copycenter.:up: (one of the few I've ever seen)

got her number and email so far, tried to setup a date, but she flaked, first flake with valuable reason I'll allow (second one will be byebye though :p) (she had to drive a friend home, i saw the guy, nice guy but kinda AFC, she's trying to hook him up with a friend of hers.. And hes going for it, says enough). Only thing I'm fearing now is that she's a loony:crazy: but then again, only one way to find out
 

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DonGorgon said:
you can add incest and molestation to this list too... and bestiality also... They say that as we become more civilized we leave certain behaviors behind
Why would you bring this ridiculous bullsh!t into this thread? Don't interject childishness rhetoric into a thread where men are speaking.
 

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Eaglecreek said:
Meaning......
I shouldn't do it? I'm not talking about slapping her :p I'm talking about being in control to be honest... Anyway guess its kinda hard to explain what I mean, so no other solution than to really try it out. Only thing left to do now is try to pickup the HB9 that works in the copycenter.:up: (one of the few I've ever seen)

got her number and email so far, tried to setup a date, but she flaked, first flake with valuable reason I'll allow (second one will be byebye though :p) (she had to drive a friend home, i saw the guy, nice guy but kinda AFC, she's trying to hook him up with a friend of hers.. And hes going for it, says enough). Only thing I'm fearing now is that she's a loony:crazy: but then again, only one way to find out
Brother on this you'll need to gauge her as you're being intimate with her. We all have a sexual radar where we can get a whiff of whether or not to be more primal or be a tad gentle. If she's feeling especially frisky by all means be the dominant male she expects.

Mistic is right when he mentioned how often women secretly harbor fantasies of rape. This in no way says that they want a stranger to abduct them and force them to give up thier bodies. This is AFC mentality at it's worst and those men should be shot dead. What it does mean is that she want to relinquish control of her body and trusts you enough to allow her inner slvt to breathe.
 

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KarmaSutra said:
Why would you bring this ridiculous bullsh!t into this thread? Don't interject childishness rhetoric into a thread where men are speaking.
Not to mention, he used the word civilized to describe humanity. By definition, there has never been a civilized nation in recorded history. It is an ideal, and an illusion, but a goal none the less. Just because we kill people we don't like with electronic toys instead of clubs doesn't make us civilized.

Furthermore, women in general would still rather be fvcked by an alpha caveman than some civilized panzie gentleman.

I consider myself Primal/Conscious, rather than civilized. I embrace the primal qualities for survival and replication, but am conscious enough to know when and how to turn it off and on.
 

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mintxx said:
My angle on this is that I've several times been with very hot girls who want me to be more aggressive in the sack, and when i say more aggressive i mean they basically want to be made to feel like they have no control over the situation. I'm pretty aggressive as it is, but this was unbelievable... One girl wouldn't get wet until I was slapping her around and calling her all sorts of things. She was certainly incredible sexually though. I didn't mind it at first, but when it became a consistent thing I began to realise it was a bit too disturbing for me. Absent father issues, that sort of thing. The two kinkiest were law students and also nymphomaniacs. Emotionally pretty cold too. Patterns continue to emerge.
One of the current girls I am fvcking likes me to slap her ass while I pull her hair and call her a dirty sslut. Her favorite position is doggy style, and there is nothing she wont do, esp. if I just do it. When she cuming, she says in her Russian accent, "Yes, oh my god, you are like animal (ah-nee-mahl) :crackup:

I'm sitting there behind her laughing to myself and thinking, "okay, whatever turns you on."

I'm actually not getting bored with her as fast as the others. It's refreshing.
 

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KarmaSutra said:
Why would you bring this ridiculous bullsh!t into this thread? Don't interject childishness rhetoric into a thread where men are speaking.
LOL.. you call it ridiculous but those behaviors have been part of human nature since we lived in caves and before. RAPE, which is the topic in this thread, is a very similar animalistic uncivilized behavior to the ones i mentioned. There is nothing at all childish about these serious human issues... Studying and understanding human behavior is very critical to our survival as a species ... Any real man like me can speak about serious issues without becoming needlessly emotional and causing a distraction from the value of the thread like you.
 

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The truth of this is a difficult thing to face.

Experience has led me back to this again and again, but I still haven't internalized it yet.

I'm never going to miss another opportunity to go caveman though, thats for d4mn sure.
 

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DonGorgon said:
LOL.. you call it ridiculous but those behaviors have been part of human nature since we lived in caves and before. RAPE, which is the topic in this thread, is a very similar animalistic uncivilized behavior to the ones i mentioned. There is nothing at all childish about these serious human issues... Studying and understanding human behavior is very critical to our survival as a species ... Any real man like me can speak about serious issues without becoming needlessly emotional and causing a distraction from the value of the thread like you.
Your trying to correlate rape, in regards to how women are emotionally tied to it, with bestiality and pedophilia is absolutely absurd.
 

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KarmaSutra said:
Sometimes a woman enjoys submitting totally to us but they have to be completely trustworthy that we appreciate that submissiveness and will not ever betray that. Once she knows we'll protect her from any negative influence while under our care, she'll do anything you want. Without guilt and with full intent on your pleasure.
QFT
 

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Most girls love to be dominated, its programmed into their systems. Just like how most guys want to dominate. I've had girls tell me how they love when I took what I wanted from them. It all goes back to primal instincts.
 

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