A million approach

[Serenity]

Are *women* playing with an open hand?

Some do, some do not.

 

[Learning Curve]

In western society, women don’t look for a provider. Not when they’re 18-25. They look for fun, confident & charismatic men with social status. Get it through your head.

Interesting.

So you believe that a woman will choose a guy who lives with his mom his mom cooks for him and drives him to dates over a guy who has his sh1t together, and makes good money?

Do you think that women don't value a guy who has his sh1t together? Age plays a role i agree with you to a certain extent.

You are too-focused on banging and throwing and you translate this vibe to your cold-approaches.

I had a woman tell me once that she can sense a f3uckboy from miles away and she usually ghosts them hard.

 

[Styr]

Ok but if your country was on the brink of being dragged into world war two, for example, would you still be saying the same thing?

1 - Which country are you talking about?
2 - How exactly is it relevant? So IF there is a war, then all the rules of self improvement are not valid? Interesting logic you have.

 

[anour]

Interesting.

So you believe that a woman will choose a guy who lives with his mom his mom cooks for him and drives him to dates over a guy who has his sh1t together, and makes good money?

Do you think that women don't value a guy who has his sh1t together? Age plays a role i agree with you to a certain extent.

You are too-focused on banging and throwing and you translate this vibe to your cold-approaches.

I had a woman tell me once that she can sense a f3uckboy from miles away and she usually ghosts them hard.

How can you remove this vibe then? Cold approaching is literally finding an attractive girl that you wanna bang and approaching her. The vibe is gonna be i wanna **** you. If you have a different style and would like to share with the rest of us, go ahead.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I'm about twice your age and I don't even need to approach

This **** is becoming frustrating.
How can i overcome this obstacle?

By turning frustration into challenge.

You're striking out because your vibe isn't congruent with what these women are looking for:

In western society, women don’t look for a provider. Not when they’re 18-25. They look for fun, confident & charismatic men with social status. Get it through your head.

You don't sound like a fun, confident & charismatic man with social status.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Lol, man what world do you live in where you think 30+ year olds are getting attention from 18-25?

I live in Amsterdam. I think that's in the same country you're complaining about.

 

[Learning Curve]

How can you remove this vibe then? Cold approaching is literally finding an attractive girl that you wanna bang and approaching her. The vibe is gonna be i wanna **** you. If you have a different style and would like to share with the rest of us, go ahead.

The ultimate result of any cold-approach is to lead to s3x. I agree with you.

We all know this, is going to get to there anyway.

The difference is knowing the type of women you have in front of you. Some of them will know what they want, they will not mind getting straight to the point, and boom you go for the kill. Some of them will want slower rapport, less s3x escalation, slower approach.

You have to be like a chameleon. Adapting to each women's personality in order to gain an advantage and have the best possible results with every single cold approach you have.

Some women feel like s1luts when you get straight to the point, some do not. You have to open the doors slowly and find out.

Examples:

Example 1:

I had a woman recently I met on Tinder. Age was 35, she knew what she wanted it was just sex. I realized that once she gave me opening signals of "maybe" coming to my place or "maybe after our drink". Again she wanted to go for a drink first so she doesn't feel like a sl1ut.

Escalated, we met for drinks and the night ended with her in my bed. She is on my rotation now weekly.

Example 2:

Met another woman crazy hot body, very s3xy i would say i give her a range of 9.

This woman wanted the exact opposite. Again it's the chameleon analogy.

She was very closed, did not want to get into any s3x innuendos, and wanted to take things slow like a turtle. That's fine.

It took me around a month or more of escalating slowly, going for dates, and never chasing or showing my desire to f3uck her. This turned her on. The last date i went with her, I did not escalate anything or asked her back to my place. Since I already tried that last time and got a push-back. I realized she wanted again to go slower as probably she has other guys she is bang1ng or maybe there is an EX in the picture.

Now tables have turned, and she is chasing.

Last week she was in my bed.

Some examples hope this helps.

 

[anour]

I'm about twice your age and I don't even need to approach


By turning frustration into challenge.

You're striking out because your vibe isn't congruent with what these women are looking for:



You don't sound like a fun, confident & charismatic man with social status.

Lol and you know that based on what, on this post? I’m confident, charismatic with a bit of social status. Exhibiting social status in cold approach is tricky but can done through story telling. I’m constantly working on my charisma, body language and confidence. I need work on social status (building friendships in general).
Care to share some insights about your experience in Amsterdam? Maybe background info about yourself. I’m based in Groningen so we can link up if you’re down to that and see who has better game (wingmen to each other)

 

[DreamAgain]

Lol and you know that based on what, on this post? I’m confident, charismatic with a bit of social status. Exhibiting social status in cold approach is tricky but can done through story telling. I’m constantly working on my charisma, body language and confidence. I need work on social status (building friendships in general).
Care to share some insights about your experience in Amsterdam? Maybe background info about yourself. I’m based in Groningen so we can link up if you’re down to that and see who has better game (wingmen to each other)

OP you are a bit out of the times.

Nowadays most women are approached digitally, they are not really receptive to strangers on the street.

I also don't know your looks but there is always room for improvement there, get a stylish haircut, nice clothes that fit well, get more fit, etc.

You need to build your social status and digital footprint and start sending some DMs, if you missed the boat in university and high school to talk to girls organically through your mutual friend groups.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Lol and you know that based on what, on this post?

If I'm wrong, I apologise for hurting your sensibilities.

Care to share some insights about your experience in Amsterdam? Maybe background info about yourself.

I'm not a PUA and I don't go out to do cold approach. Like I said, women approach me, but I don't need to hookup with tourists, so I'm selective who I give out my contact info. I don't use dating apps for dates, although I have a Tinder profile to find models. I have women already, so I'm only interested in a woman if she has more to contribute to my life than just *****.

we can link up if you’re down to that and see who has better game (wingmen to each other)

Why would I do that? Like I said, I'm not a 'player' and I don't teach, nor do I need a wingman, so what do I get out of that?

 

[DreamAgain]

If I'm wrong, I apologise for hurting your sensibilities.


I'm not a PUA and I don't go out to do cold approach. Like I said, women approach me, but I don't need to hookup with tourists, so I'm selective who I give out my contact info. I don't use dating apps for dates, although I have a Tinder profile to find models. I have women already, so I'm only interested in a woman if she has more to contribute to my life than just *****.


Why would I do that? Like I said, I'm not a 'player' and I don't teach, nor do I need a wingman, so what do I get out of that?

Where do you go exactly for women to approach you? Are you a male model or similar looks status?

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Where do you go exactly for women to approach you?

Mostly the inner city of Amsterdam.

Are you a male model or similar looks status?

I'm a hand model.

No, I'm an artist, I retired from security consultancy in 2011 to dedicate myself to my writing and raising my children. I perform spoken word and I counsel people with C-PTSD, mostly women with severe childhood trauma. And according to a lover I look like a Rock Star cross between Keith Richards and Johnny Depp.

 

[DreamAgain]

Mostly the inner city of Amsterdam.


I'm a hand model.

No, I'm an artist, I retired from security consultancy in 2011 to dedicate myself to my writing and raising my children. I perform spoken word and I counsel people with C-PTSD, mostly women with severe childhood trauma. And according to a lover I look like a Rock Star cross between Keith Richards and Johnny Depp.

I'm assuming women contact you through social media then? You aren't getting approached walking down the street or in bars I'm guessing.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I'm assuming women contact you through social media then? You aren't getting approached walking down the street or in bars I'm guessing.

No, they approach me in the street. And if I like them, I give out my IG so they contact me to make a better acquaintance.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Women don't do that, they might send some choosing signals here and there but approach you straight up, it's BS I'm 99.9% sure.

I hear that all the time.

 

[anour]

If I'm wrong, I apologise for hurting your sensibilities.


I'm not a PUA and I don't go out to do cold approach. Like I said, women approach me, but I don't need to hookup with tourists, so I'm selective who I give out my contact info. I don't use dating apps for dates, although I have a Tinder profile to find models. I have women already, so I'm only interested in a woman if she has more to contribute to my life than just *****.


Why would I do that? Like I said, I'm not a 'player' and I don't teach, nor do I need a wingman, so what do I get out of that?

I’m not a pickup artist myself. I thought we might learn from each other some things. How do women approach you because women always would let a man do the approaching unless she is extremely horney and attracted to you. Care to elaborate and benefit everybody?

 

[anour]

The ultimate result of any cold-approach is to lead to s3x. I agree with you.

We all know this, is going to get to there anyway.

The difference is knowing the type of women you have in front of you. Some of them will know what they want, they will not mind getting straight to the point, and boom you go for the kill. Some of them will want slower rapport, less s3x escalation, slower approach.

You have to be like a chameleon. Adapting to each women's personality in order to gain an advantage and have the best possible results with every single cold approach you have.

Some women feel like s1luts when you get straight to the point, some do not. You have to open the doors slowly and find out.

Examples:

Example 1:

I had a woman recently I met on Tinder. Age was 35, she knew what she wanted it was just sex. I realized that once she gave me opening signals of "maybe" coming to my place or "maybe after our drink". Again she wanted to go for a drink first so she doesn't feel like a sl1ut.

Escalated, we met for drinks and the night ended with her in my bed. She is on my rotation now weekly.

Example 2:

Met another woman crazy hot body, very s3xy i would say i give her a range of 9.

This woman wanted the exact opposite. Again it's the chameleon analogy.

She was very closed, did not want to get into any s3x innuendos, and wanted to take things slow like a turtle. That's fine.

It took me around a month or more of escalating slowly, going for dates, and never chasing or showing my desire to f3uck her. This turned her on. The last date i went with her, I did not escalate anything or asked her back to my place. Since I already tried that last time and got a push-back. I realized she wanted again to go slower as probably she has other guys she is bang1ng or maybe there is an EX in the picture.

Now tables have turned, and she is chasing.

Last week she was in my bed.

Some examples hope this helps.

This by far has been the most insightful and detailed advice. Thank you. I have a question though how do you test if a woman wants to move slowly instead of direct? Do you escalate verbally or physically and back off if you see resistance or how exactly does it work? Thank you once again!

 

[anour]

OP you are a bit out of the times.

Nowadays most women are approached digitally, they are not really receptive to strangers on the street.

I also don't know your looks but there is always room for improvement there, get a stylish haircut, nice clothes that fit well, get more fit, etc.

You need to build your social status and digital footprint and start sending some DMs, if you missed the boat in university and high school to talk to girls organically through your mutual friend groups.

I feel dming girls has a lower success rate than direct approaching

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I’m not a pickup artist myself. I thought we might learn from each other some things. How do women approach you because women always would let a man do the approaching unless she is extremely horney and attracted to you. Care to elaborate and benefit everybody?

I don't care about chasing women, I have three women I can call whenever I need company. So I just do my own thing without paying attention to women and that drives them to approach me, or they wouldn't get to talk to me.

And they want to talk to me because they want to make sure that it's not because of them that I don't pay them attention.

And they want me because I'm interesting to them. They are surrounded by human puppy dogs catering to their every whim, but I don't respond to their flirty games or give them the validation they crave.

Women want what they cannot have. I don't give them what they want, but I may give them what they need.

 

[Learning Curve]

This by far has been the most insightful and detailed advice. Thank you. I have a question though how do you test if a woman wants to move slowly instead of direct? Do you escalate verbally or physically and back off if you see resistance or how exactly does it work? Thank you once again!

You have to test the waters.

All women want a direct guy no matter what.

For verbal communication start by trying minor s3xual text escalations to see how she responds. If you see any change in her behavior in terms of her feeling uncomfortable then you know that you need to back-off and again enable the chameleon methodology to remove that from your vocabulary with that woman for now.

Other women will allow you to have s3xual innuendos, texts and escalations and they will actually like it.

Text Example:

Her: Sends me a video of her being in shorts with a hot shirt
Me: I like that, you should wear it when you come to see me it's s3xy.
Her: Okkkkkkkk

"S3xy" its all i used. Minor but always works.

Since her response was just "ok" playfully in my experience this is neutral. It does not say much but in my experience when a woman just replies "Ok" it's mostly because she is not experienced sexually and i since i know this woman now she is not.

An experienced woman would probably reply with more s3xual innuendos and asked me what to wear when she comes, or what she likes.

For physical approach body language is very important.

Getting back to my example number 2.

On our first date she had her body turned away from me. Crossed hands and legs. Total defense mode.

I was not going to escalate for anything either s3xually or going for any touches yet. I was waiting for her body to turn towards me, her hands to be released and her legs to be open. It took around 2 hours of conversations and minor touches to move to that place.

It takes time and effort, but at the end of the day what matters is how a woman responds to your actions. You have to develop your senses and radar to a very high level to understand when anything is changing or developing.

This is also very important for LTR. Since most guys get complacent and don't see any sings of their woman backing-off or being less s3xually interested in them.

Hope this helps.