A mild rant

ThunderMaverick

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Looking for work these past several months have been frustrating. I'll find something here or there, get hired only to not be called back in after a few days. Finding out that a call center I worked for steals people's social security numbers.

My specialty is in voice acting and it's a ***** trying to break into that business. I'm trying to scrap money together to buy some equipment so I can make a new demo reel, bla bla bla.

Long story condensed my GF is getting pretty short with me, getting overly angry at innocuous things I say, complaining about my friends who have no issue with her and making passive aggressive comments about it. We were kinda talking over xbox live a few minutes ago, she's feeling terrible and I don't know what to say to her that won't piss her off. She ends up logging off and I almost wanted to message her.

We made plans to move in together by the end of the year but my current financial situation isn't helping. She's going through some financial **** too so it's really stressful as hell for her so I can' understand where she's coming from. It's like as a man I'm suppose to be doing things to help out my significant other, but sh!t keeps falling through.

She just called me back. She says she's not feeling well and she's worried about money. I just really hate this situation and I feel like we're running out of time.

Anyways, just a rant. Suggestions and advice are welcome.
 

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I think you know this but I'll just say it anyways.

You're probably done with this chick...unless you hit the lottery of course.

Money is the alpha and omega of relationship destroyers....that is YOU NOT HAVING MONEY....

At the end of the day, women expect to be provided for...don't let all this talk of equality and feminism fool you....women want to do whatever they bloody well please and yet still have some guy pay for their lifestyle.

absurd right?

Well there it is...welcome to the modern world.

We are in a long and protracted depression that may not improve for 5-10 years if ever....people have yet to grasp this.

Hold your head up....if your money situ doesn't improve in the next 3 months you will likely have to cut this women off....she is clearly not in it for the long run.
 

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1. Never live with a woman until there is a ring on her finger.
2. She's not a significant other until there is a ring on her finger.
3. There is no romance without finance. But there is fvcking without finance. These may not be the same women.
4. Focus on your career. Sell what you have to sell to get your gear. Blood, that xbox. Whatever you gotta do.
5. Women are dream killers. Attain your dream first, then attain women. If you do it the opposite way, you may not achieve your dream.

Look at this voiceover guy. It ain't voice acting, but I buy at least 1-5 gig a month from this guy. He does about 5-10 a day. He can make a living at this and probably does other crap on the side. It could be a good hustle when you get your equipment. Good luck.

http://www.goodcheapvoiceover.com/
 

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Some of these points crack me up. No romance without finance? It's over if you don't have money?

You do know that there are men out there who sit at home and watch TV all day while their women make the money, even if it's not much money. "Kept men" do exist. I'm not saying that is something to ascribe to, I'm just pointing out that some of your game may be off if you are losing a chick due to bad finance. Especially if it's temporary. Maybe she is confident and needs a man going places, that's one case. But it shouldn't be the rule. Does she even really like you? As in YOU. Or are you helping her to keep the idea in her head that she should be getting help from you because she is the woman, you are the man?

Questions one must ask themselves.
 

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iqqi said:
Some of these points crack me up. No romance without finance? It's over if you don't have money?

You do know that there are men out there who sit at home and watch TV all day while their women make the money, even if it's not much money. "Kept men" do exist. I'm not saying that is something to ascribe to, I'm just pointing out that some of your game may be off if you are losing a chick due to bad finance. Especially if it's temporary. Maybe she is confident and needs a man going places, that's one case. But it shouldn't be the rule. Does she even really like you? As in YOU. Or are you helping her to keep the idea in her head that she should be getting help from you because she is the woman, you are the man?

Questions one must ask themselves.
She doesn't really get help from me. We made an agreement that we'd move in together. And I'd like to. It's been over two years since we've been exclusive and she's help up her end of the bargain financially.

I'm not so much worried losing her, because how she feels about me hasn't changed. I'm worried that I've been losing the frame for the past couple of months because of my negative attitude. I've been overly sensitive about a few things and I get angry. Losing my car hasn't helped so I'm saving up to get that back too. I just want to be less stressed and it's kinda affecting the relationship a bit.

Just a lot of bad choices I made and I have to fix and it's slowly coming along, but I want to speed it up.


Warrior, what the guy does is the very definition of voice acting. lol It's pretty solid for what he's advertising and it's a really smart idea. I'll be doing things like that once I get my equipment. Good link!

A few things though; I don't believe in marriage. Based on what I've seen a lot of people these days get along fine not being married. Then there are those married people who cheat, abuse, and lead the marriage to stagnation. Then I've known people to be together for 12 years with no ring or marriage certificate. How committed and honest you are defines being with someone, IMO.

She's not a dream killer at all. If anything she kinda bangs her head against the wall trying to get me to do voice overs. She's always suggesting ways i can promote myself and she has a lot of great ideas for creative formats. She believes in me as much as my closest friends and family do.

When I was younger I tried putting all of my eggs in one basket. Didn't turn out so well and like I said i'm paying for the mistakes I've made. So first things first - find a job and the rest will follow.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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No romance without finance? It's over if you don't have money?
There absolutely can be romance without finance, but finance certainly helps attain and keep romance. Its the bloody system we live in, especially with some women today who will pay close attention to money and power.
 

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Just because she's worried about finance doesn't make her a gold digger. A relationship, especially involving shared living arrangements, should be an equal partnership. She won't want to support the man any more than he should have to support her. Both need to contribute if it's to work.

If there is a difficulty breaking into the niche market, I would open up the scope a little. A confident voice can be very successful in sales, and with commission, you could be find this is a lucrative career move..
 

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iqqi said:
It's over if you don't have money?
No,..but the countdown has begun.


Isn't it strange how most men report their first real experience with hypergamy came right after he got laid off?
 

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"I already addressed the power thing. And the money? You're always gonna need some. That crap about "all you need is love" is just for songs and movies. You're gonna need some scratch to survive in this world. And to be able to attract women."
From here.
 

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iqqi said:
Some of these points crack me up. No romance without finance? It's over if you don't have money?

You do know that there are men out there who sit at home and watch TV all day while their women make the money, even if it's not much money. "Kept men" do exist. I'm not saying that is something to ascribe to, I'm just pointing out that some of your game may be off if you are losing a chick due to bad finance. Especially if it's temporary. Maybe she is confident and needs a man going places, that's one case. But it shouldn't be the rule. Does she even really like you? As in YOU. Or are you helping her to keep the idea in her head that she should be getting help from you because she is the woman, you are the man?

Questions one must ask themselves.
Are you being intentionally obtuse? Or can you not read? (these may not be the same women).

Finance isn't for her you idiot. It's for you. As it stands, right now I live hand to mouth. What do I look like trying to buy new clothes or going on date$? Now if a chic comes by and digs what I'm doing right now and satisfied with ramen, redbox & dyck then that's cool. And it's not going to stop me from going out and gaming what I can. But getting myself together is more important than chasing poon.

I have a chic who wants to go to the casino and out drinking tonight with me and her girlfriends. Tonight I will be writing articles, working on my marketing materials finishing a logo and updating my website. I told her to hit me up after she leaves, she can come thru after she's got a buzz and take care of me then. I have to look out for me first.

Sure there are kept men, but most of us will never be one. There are also people who win the lottery but I'm not gonna hold out and wait for that to happen.

It's about me first. Does that penetrate your brain?


ThunderMaverick said:
Warrior, what the guy does is the very definition of voice acting. lol It's pretty solid for what he's advertising and it's a really smart idea. I'll be doing things like that once I get my equipment. Good link!
Yah that guy pulls in at least 3-5k a month minimum. I know a bunch of video producers who use him. I have a friend who is trying to set up his business on the same model. Cheap price, fast turn around. I used to do the same with video, but video requires a little to much tailoring to hit a price point that was still profitable and attractive.

ThunderMaverick said:
She's not a dream killer at all. If anything she kinda bangs her head against the wall trying to get me to do voice overs. She's always suggesting ways i can promote myself and she has a lot of great ideas for creative formats. She believes in me as much as my closest friends and family do.
Sounds like she's a good one. I try to advise from the position of guarded caution.
 

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Are you being intentionally obtuse? Or can you not read? (these may not be the same women).

Finance isn't for her you idiot. It's for you. As it stands, right now I live hand to mouth. What do I look like trying to buy new clothes or going on date$? Now if a chic comes by and digs what I'm doing right now and satisfied with ramen, redbox & dyck then that's cool. And it's not going to stop me from going out and gaming what I can. But getting myself together is more important than chasing poon.

I have a chic who wants to go to the casino and out drinking tonight with me and her girlfriends. Tonight I will be writing articles, working on my marketing materials finishing a logo and updating my website. I told her to hit me up after she leaves, she can come thru after she's got a buzz and take care of me then. I have to look out for me first.

Sure there are kept men, but most of us will never be one. There are also people who win the lottery but I'm not gonna hold out and wait for that to happen.

It's about me first. Does that penetrate your brain?
i'll take this a step further.

you are probably the only one on this forum who can relate to what i am about to say. lol i know your right now better than you know yourself.

see, that's only half of it, the not having money. i mean, wheni was with my partner there were some very very bad times, but, form the 2 and a half years it took to go from start up to... actually successful as i deem it we were what i call working poor. we had enough money to buy food, to have an apartment, gas money, i could throw together 15-20 bucks to get out the house once a week to go watch a movie or go bowling or something. eventually we got a nice projector with soem movies to keep us entertained for a while.

and yeah i coudl have went out and talked to women and tried to date within my league at that time, it would have consisted of some very avg to below avg women but i could have probably done it. i was on this site at the time.

but the money is only half of it. the REAL reason i don't think you are really all that into going out, and this was what i found out ot be true for me that even if i did go out, even if i did go on a date or whatever, there was, an exactly 0% chance that i was going to be thinking about anything other than my business. i dont' care who was in front of me. what's the point of going out and trying to spin plates when plates are the last thing on your mind anyway.

most people will never understand just how consuming entrepreneurship is. it consumes everything around you. time money, energy, focus, everything.

it wasn't even so much putting money in my pocket that allowed me to start dating but actually knowing that generally we were going to sale between x and z today and we have done this enough to i know this is going to happen. until you get to that point, there is no point of even kidding yourself about going out on dates and ****. and even then it was really hard for me to focus. i came up with a system that worked for me, i had 2 phones and i just basically put my work phone in my office drawer from Friday afternoon until sunday morning, and the only person who had my personal phone was my partner and he was under strict orders not to call me unless it was a dire emergency. that is the only way i could get my mind off the business. Monday night, business, wednesday night out to drink with girls business, Thursday night at a comedy show business. the **** is all consuming.

i remember one date wiht a girl that i actually ended up dating eventually, it was a Tuesday night, and i forgot what we did, but we pissed off our merchant bank and they were holding like almost 30 thousand dollars in orders, so all day Tuesday i had spent gathering the information they wanted me to gather to un piss them off lol and release our funds, i forgot what the big deal was about friday but we needed like at least half of that money for friday for a very important reason i think our amex bill was due and our entire business ran off our amex cards that would have put a halt to everything.

anyway, so all i can do is give them what they want on tuesday and wait until wednesday. it takes 2 business days for the funds to hit your account so it would have gotten there Friday. now with all this looming on my mind, i am sitting here these shoes she saw at a store in the mall and i am thinking girl **** you shoes we broke lol. i remember thinking to myself you can't possibly fathom how much i really could give a **** about your shoes at this very moment. you really couldn't.


people will tell you that man you have to unwind but on that level of business there is no unwinding the **** is 24 x 7 365. that's why you get paid way more than everyone else when things work out beucase you had to worry about a lot of **** when other people got to leave their problems at the door.

ramen, redbox & dyck: Warrior's Guide to slaying women
lol got to admit it has a ring to it
 
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