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FIrst I want y ou to understand my situation.

sorry about the length.

I know that we can be honest on this forum, and I do not mean to sound conceited but, I get what I want. For the most part I'd like to believe that it isn't just because of my looks, but because I know how to converse with people, and, from a very young age, have been able to reverse the roles when it comes to relationships with men.

Truly, men can be easily if not more manipulated than women. It's just that men and women have a different test in life. As Dave Chapelle said, "A woman's test in life is material. A man's test in life, is a woman."

But I have a serious problem that I can NOT find a solution to.

This guy and I met while he had a girlfriend, and within the first month of meeting, texting, you know just introductory flirting, they broke up. I did not directly instigate anything... on purpose. Anyway, him and that girl were extremely on and off the next six months. I don't know why he broke up with her, and if it was for me, he did not do a very good job of showing it. Clearly though, I could see he was whipped by this chick, and could NOT shake her no matter how hard he tried to ignore her.

Though I knew he was still communicating with her we would still talk, I would work my **** on him and he would eat it up. To me it didn't matter if he was taken or not, I just wanted his piece... badly. It's not often that I would spend so much time on any particular person.... but ever since I laid eyes on him I KNEW I wanted to hook up with him. My mistake here was simple: I did NOT have enough time to do what I wanted with him. I know that I should have tried to clear my schedule, or make room for a hook up with him, but the truth is I was so focused on other people, family, my life, my job, my well being. We would constantly try to chill, and I was the one that could not. Though I know he is not a player whatsoever, I know that he must have thought MY interest level plummeted, and that I was just another chick just texting him. I decided to keep him on the backburner, after all, this was my mistake. And the next day I forgot about him.

This was a year ago. Throughout that time and now he would randomly contact me, sometimes I would respond, sometimes I wouldn't, you know. But recently we were invited to the same pool party, and just hit it off like crazy. It was a party and I could read by his body language and the things he was saying to me that he was the jealous type, asking me immediately if I was texting other guys, and looking at me if I would talk to other guys at this party. Later that night, we found ourselves alone in the pool. We were literally all over each other in the pool, even with people present, and when they all left I was like finally I can bag this ! I was sitting on him .... we were completely alone... and what does he do? Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. Nothing. I was the one who moved his hand to my breast. It's not that he wasn't into it, he was holding me and pulling me close, and he was aroused, but like, what the ****? Anyway, though I can be quite the kitten I didn't want to force myself upon this guy, because I'm not that desperate, and though the ultimate goal in this situation was sex, I wasn't going to disrespect myself or my motives. I was getting the most confusing signals from him. Finally after half an hour of teasing, I got out of the pool, dried myself off, and didn't say bye.

Since then his interest level has sky rocketed, and his confidence has too. However, I recently got back from a Euro trip (crazy times haha), and he texts and calls me the day I get back saying, "I remembered the date you would arrive" and all this nonsense. So we would text that whole week, he's a big texter, which is very annoying, but tells me he's shy, and he wanted me to chill every night with him, but I couldn't because he's not my top priority. He tells me hes "always available" and that I set the time. Then came the day where I was like, Ill finally be free tomorrow night. And what happens..... he blew me off.

First of all, he told me that he had to "help his mom out" that night, which smells like bull**** to me, though I know that his single mom regularly makes him help out with her business. With the kindof life that I lead, I really, really don't need some kid I'm trying to lay to waste my time, or a decent night that I could have spent with someone else. The next day I decided to do what any pickup artist would do..... ignore his texts. I had plans already but after I dont text him he says "Wow, thats cold. Not responding, I'm dissapointed." That night I got very drunk with my best girlfriends, and we ended up hooking up and partying with these guys. When I saw his text again at 5 in the morning, I replied "I'm dissappointed in you, too." After that he blew up on me and was like, I didn't ditch you, I had to help my mom out, blah blah blah, and I just couldn't take it. Because I DON'T trust anyone when they help their mom out on a Thursday night. Not that I think hes hooking up with someone else, but that would be good for him, anyway, but the fact that I've been trying to bag this b1tch for so long that I can't even fathom why the chase has taken this long. This whole ordeal happened friday night/saturday morning, and he has not talked to me since. When and if he does talk to me, though, I WANT to get what I have wanted this whole time.

p.s. I think theres an intimidation factor here, which is my only guess to him not hooking up with me.

long story, very short, how the fukc do i get this guy to hit the sheets with me?!
 

DonJuan_DeRosco

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Chuckle, this is one of the funniest and best things i've read here!

By all means, i agree, this guy 'seems' to be doing everything that would be considered as wrong here. But what's most amusing is that, he's in 'your' head. :p

Chuckle, maybe there's hope for AFC's after all. :p

Your question, what can you do to get him to hit the sheets with you. Surely my dear, you already know the answer to that?

Drag his punk ass TO your sheets and forget coming across as desperate!

The old adage of wanting what you can't (or haven't) have reeks in this thread like a miasma.

Very interesting.

:up:
 

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Hahah, actually, maybe you're right, maybe my biggest challenge is an AFC....... sigh
 

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For his sake, I hope he doesn't fall for it.
He's displayed almost every textbook AFC tendency and you are still after him for ONE reason, which you vehemently and very openly claimed: SEX.

Yet, I am 100% sure that once you get what you want, you'll dump him to the side and leave him in shambles. He'll think that after all this time, he FINALLY got you and in reality, all you wanted was the challenge.

Since the challenge is still unfulfilled, you've stuck around for a year.

I love how you say you didn't want to disrespect yourself in the same post after stating that you met a guy with a girlfriend and did not hold back in flirting with him. Hell, you don't even know if you directly or indirectly caused the rift between him and his ex-girlfriend.

He had to help his mom on a Thursday night and you think it's BS?
Is there only a certain amount of assigned days that someone can help a family member? And even if it's BS, he's not your boyfriend, he shouldn't even have to explain himself, but of course, being the AFC that he is, he told you and his reason was "valid" enough that you had no reason to be disappointed.


And I hope you aren't saying that you are a so-called "alpha female" because you are far from it.


And to answer your question: You get him to hit the sheets with you by either getting naked in front of him or by approaching the situation as a woman who would want to go out with an AFC-male.

Again, for his sake, I hope it doesn't happen.
 

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Chuckle, i was hoping Kailex would reply to this. :)

I'm sure we all agree with what Kailex said, as soon as you do 'get' him, you will dump him. You pretty much said as much in your post.

It's very amusing though how it's affected you. And goes to show that there's something to the 'push/pull' technique.

;)
 

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To each their own opinion.

Whats wrong with going after for someone for sex? That is something I am not denying.
 

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Nothing at all lass, sex makes the world go round. :p

You have to see it from our point of view though, this poor guy, this poor clueless guy is like a fly, trapped on the web of a black widow.....and she's HUNGRY!
 

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Haha, what a joke! "Alpha Female"? :crackup:

Anyway, to answer your question, next time you're together you whisper in his ear "I want to fvck your brains out." He will either fvck you or he won't.

Quite simple, really.
 

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And if he doesn't, and i hope he doesn't, (will your head explode?!) maybe he's one of Pooks 'androgynous' males.
 

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Seems like he is afraid of even MAKING A MOVE, therefore, YOU be the one to do it. Draw him close and kiss him, if you're that desperate to get the job done. If you can't physically advance past kissing, then stop wasting your time lol.
 

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Alpha female - my azz.
Honey, if you were even close to your absolutely fabulous opinion of yourself you would have put a line through that chump long ago and be banging another great guy or two by now.
I believe, from your post, that you are compulsively pursuing someone who just won't fall under your royal spell and do your bidding. Oh, that must smart.
You do not want to be with this particular guy so much as you want to feel the ego bloat that comes with sexual victory over him, and then it will be all over .
The irony here is that you are not pursuing a high value guy, or a 'hard to get' guy, or an 'in demand' guy , or an alpha . You are tangled up in a clumsy attempt to bang a guy who cannot get out of his own way, and you seem to be as inept and unskilled as he is in getting what you want. If you were truly as impressive as you believe you are, you would have weaved your 'magic' and you would have banged him six ways from Sunday by now.
THis guy is evasive, unsettled, scattered in purpose, unsure of his masculinity and lacks drive and the confidence to just take you and F you. Or maybe, as the book said , he's just not that into you .

Good luck with this.
You might want to re-assess your "gaming" skills too. Something isn't working.
 

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It's funny that everyone is reacting to the "alpha female" comment.

As soon as I read that, I was like "Who describes themself as that?" You might be the alpha-est person in the world, but once you SAY it, it just sucks all the alpha right out of you. Because an "alpha" person doesn't walk around trying to be alpha, or thinking about their alpha-ness.

And damn, I hate this board's obsession with alpha.
 

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It seems he genuinely was helping his mum out, I don't know why you thought otherwise, especially as he was so into you.


He's clearly not playing games, he's laying it all out there, what's in the past is in the past but right now he wants you, he's just shy/unsure maybe or he just wants you to make the move. This situation is quite funny because in england it seems it's always like this except the guy's in your postion and the girl is in his.
 

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I beg to differ Curious Girl. I'm just up the road from you (figuratively speaking) and it's always like that!

Maybe you just live in an alpha male street. ;)

The guy is clueless. Surely you can say the majority of guys on our fair isle are the same?
 

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Wow. Haven't been here in ages. So there's hors posting on here now?

Guess he's a shy guy. I use that game sometimes too.
 

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Don Juanabbe said:
Wow. Haven't been here in ages. So there's hors posting on here now?

Guess he's a shy guy. I use that game sometimes too.
Canuckistan! :crackup:
 

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After seeing 5string's response, can I change my first one to:

#1 - Hit the gym
#2 - Spin more plates
#3 - Read the Book of Pook




Or is it too late for that???
 

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Kailex said:
After seeing 5string's response, can I change my first one to:

#1 - Hit the gym
#2 - Spin more plates
#3 - Read the Book of Pook




Or is it too late for that???
NO NO NO! 1)Hit the salon 2)Spin more plates 3)Read The Book of Pook :D
 

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