A huge problem with the advice on this forum...

[RockstarPUA]

Originally posted by Jariel
My thoughts exactly. And of these 2000 approaches in 6 months, I wonder how many were successful.

I feel like I am qualifying myself here in this post but I will do so regardless so that some of you can understand the process of becoming successful with women.

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Hey man, Jariel, its all building a skillset.

A lot weren't successful. Especially at the beginning.

I would get blown out HARD!!!!!!!! Girls would finger me or just turn around and block me out. I got a couple '**** OFFs' but I have learned many things from approaching that many women and this is the only way to learn. Now I can pretty much choose any girl, anywhere and have a convo with her (Just as I'm sure Rockstar PUA can after watching his vid).

The 2000 sets are practice for when that stunning girl walks into the party or into your class. You will know what to do and unlike 99% of the guys out there, you won't just sit there and gawk, you'll go over and get what you want. You'll talk to her.

Jariel - As far as the time goes I consider it a worthwhile investment. You can be rich, famous, have a lot of friends, and if you don't have a woman you can still be sad (The real PUAs are the guys that don't need a woman at all). If you don't want to put in the time why are you on this forum?

I simply cut out TV and manage my time better. I don't go out and drink anymore. I go out with my wings, we have a hell of a lot of fun and we just sarge. I do it at school in between classes. I talk to everyone.

If you are going to truely be successful with this you have to make it a lifestyle. I was a nerd before but I snapped and decided that I needed to get this handled.

I made it a lifestyle and everyday I am meeting, attracting and building connections with georgious, funny women.

Now I have hot friends, f*ck-buddies and am meeting new girls every day. By doing this insane amount of approaches (25 a night) my personality is becoming that of a Natural (a guy that is naturally attractive to women).

Visceral - This is one of the problems. You can't motivated a guy to go out and do it. He has to hit rock bottom himself and just snap and decide that he wants this part of his life handled.

Part of the problem with reading so much material is that it makes you feel just good enough so that you won't hit rock bottom and get motivated. It sort of gives you this fake confidence. When it dies you can go back and read another post...

The people who are too passive will never get to where they want. Its not their fault. EVeryone dreams of being great (doing great things) but very few actually dare to be great and follow through with it.

backbreaker, I used to be a 'DJ'. Now I'm beyone that. I'm at a whole different level like the guys in Chicago are. I've got my life sorted, I've got unstoppable confidence, I am in my reality and girls know it when I talk to them.

I do what I want in life, I'm a very active person. Part of my self-improvemtent right now is getting the skillset needed to attract and keep georgious, smart, funny and confident women.

Why just sit back and say "I'm a DJ" and just hope that one or two girls stumble your way?

Girls will love you for being a DJ but how are they going to know that you are one? THEY WONT! So you need to go up and show them. You need to go and find them and approach them, show them that you are a cool guy and then be willing to walk away.

If you guys were in a bar or at school and the HOTTEST girl walked by would you know what to say to get her attention? (No)Would you know what to say to attract her? (No) Would you be nervous? (Yes)

After a rediculous amount of sets (2000ish) I can now approach any girl, anywhere, without approach anxiety or nervousness and I know what I have to do to attract her. Sometime it doesn't work but those are the brakes.

The best part about it is that this is becoming my personality. I can just be myself and the girls will be attracted.

Cheers fellas.

~Rockstar

ps. thissucks003 that was an AMOG.

 

[RockstarPUA]

This forum is making my head spin...

Sooo many guys have such limiting beliefs. IF you just pushed your comfort zones and actually got out in the field you would really start to understand women.

Guys saying things like "I don't like b*tchy women so I'm not going to talk to them" are making up excuses to hide their insecurities.

You might be able to have this account afterall Rockstar PUA....

I keep on trying to help guys out and my replies get ignored and the same AFC posts re-worded keep piling up day after day on the board. *shakes head dissaprovingly*

 

[NINJA PIMP]

Originally posted by RockstarPUA
This forum is making my head spin...

I keep on trying to help guys out and my replies get ignored and the same AFC posts re-worded keep piling up day after day on the board. *shakes head dissaprovingly*

I feel your pain, Rockstar. I rarely post here anymore because of these reasons. The blind lead the blind here, and when someone new pops up with a suggestion that they leave the sanctum of this forum, their are always negative and defensive reactions.

"LEAVE the forum? How can I be a Don Juan without SoSuave.com???"

It really is sad, and I go months without posting here just because I like to be around positive people. But I still check in once in a blue cause these guys do need guidance and the occasional reality check.

I love how people try to ridicule you for doing 2,000 approaches, yet have no problem racking up thousands of posts on this site. If they spent half that time in field, we would see a much more positive vibe here. It seems the majority of posters are more concerned about who is right as opposed to what actually works.

Having said all that...I hope you don't let the majority discourage you. There are some real playas lending a hand here. 007, Animal Crackers, Mind Over Matter, A-Unit, among others. There is also some great reading on this forum believe it or not. Check out Pook, Player Supreme and Señor Fingers for some more uplifting material.

I guess what I tryin to say is... Welcome to the forums, VanRock. Your input is appreciated!

 

[The Bad Ass Canadian]

Hey Rockstar, I'm you're eastern canadian counterpart ... They call me rockstar, too. With good reason . If you're ever on this side of the country, look me up.

When we tour out west, I'll let you know..... Haven't had a chance to visit Vancouver, yet, but i'm looking forward to it.
Are Vancity chicks as easy as Halifax chicks?

Welcome to the boards. You really know what's going on and this place needs guys like you.

 

[Visceral]

Originally posted by RockstarPUA
Visceral - This is one of the problems. You can't motivated a guy to go out and do it. He has to hit rock bottom himself and just snap and decide that he wants this part of his life handled.

Well, this sucks. I've got a LONG way to go before this happens.

Originally posted by RockstarPUA
Part of the problem with reading so much material is that it makes you feel just good enough so that you won't hit rock bottom and get motivated. It sort of gives you this fake confidence. When it dies you can go back and read another post...

Interesting. I always found this forum to be depressing rather than motivating. Between guys bragging about success I can't even imagine, guys posting how ridiculously complicated human mating is, and guys showing me how I suck, I don't think I've ever felt better about myself after coming here.

Originally posted by RockstarPUA
The people who are too passive will never get to where they want. Its not their fault. EVeryone dreams of being great (doing great things) but very few actually dare to be great and follow through with it.

I keep looking for why this is so, trying to figure out what separates the great from the common, and hoping it's not something you have to be born with. All men can, but only a handful ever do. Right now, I'm not one of them, so I need to change this before anything will happen, and do so without running into my passivity or setting off the ego's change alarms.

 

[NINJA PIMP]

Originally posted by Visceral
I keep trying to figure out what separates the great from the common, and hoping it's not something you have to be born with. All men can, but only a handful ever do. Right now, I'm not one of them, so I need to change this before anything will happen, and do so without running into my passivity or setting off the ego's change alarms.

What separates the great from the common is drive and courage. On the flip side, what keeps us from greatness is fear and laziness. Reading all the posts in the world will not teach you game. That would be like trying to learn how to ride a bike from a manual.

You have to face the fear (which is really just an illusion) and push yourself outside your comfort zone. The funny thing is that this initial push is the hardest part. You build fear in your mind till its the size of a mountain, but the more experience you gain, the more you see that it was just an insignificant pebble in the road. No internet site, guru, or ebook can make you believe this...it has to come from within, and that comes from experience IN THE REAL WORLD.

Get out there, do some approaches. Work on your inner game. Learn to love and be comfortable with yourself and you will NEVER fail, you will only LEARN.

 

[zerocelcius]

I have "Kiss me I'm a Rock Star" on my Record Case!

OH I have PHuckED lots of chicks to. Does that count? WHY did you hit on 007>? Are you BI? (being serious) Cause if you were that would be real Rockstar!

This sight isn't that bad just don't take a websight so damn serious. IF you are mac'n than Mac on, but don't waste your time telling those who aren't how bad they are doing
THAT MAKES YOU A HATER!!!

And to Sosuave why are you guys so defensive? Where is your damn confidence? One guy says somthing and you all jump his arse!

Everybody calm down and brush off your shoulders. YOU are DON JUANS (slap slap) Now act like it!

:yes:

 

[On_the_Top]

Originally posted by NINJA PIMP
I feel your pain, Rockstar. I rarely post here anymore because of these reasons. The blind lead the blind here, and when someone new pops up with a suggestion that they leave the sanctum of this forum, their are always negative and defensive reactions.

"LEAVE the forum? How can I be a Don Juan without SoSuave.com???"

It really is sad, and I go months without posting here just because I like to be around positive people. But I still check in once in a blue cause these guys do need guidance and the occasional reality check.

I love how people try to ridicule you for doing 2,000 approaches, yet have no problem racking up thousands of posts on this site. If they spent half that time in field, we would see a much more positive vibe here. It seems the majority of posters are more concerned about who is right as opposed to what actually works.

Having said all that...I hope you don't let the majority discourage you. There are some real playas lending a hand here. 007, Animal Crackers, Mind Over Matter, A-Unit, among others. There is also some great reading on this forum believe it or not. Check out Pook, Player Supreme and Señor Fingers for some more uplifting material.

I guess what I tryin to say is... Welcome to the forums, VanRock. Your input is appreciated!

ditto

 

[Tazman]

You know what would motivate me? An "unattractive" guy who became successful with women and posted his pic along with the pics of the pretty women he's gotten. That would definitely motivate me. All the pics I've seen here are of guys who look at the very least "average" (which can take you a long way based on your attitude) and I don't see anything spectacular. I want to see a guy who doesn't look average, a guy that has some significant physical flaws be able to pull off the things that are encouraged here.

I see plenty of average looking guys with pretty women, it's very common actually (I realize this is subjective). I know you'll say I've got the wrong attitude, and I probably do, but that's definitely something I'd like to see.

 

[everywomanshero]

approaches

If I remember correctly he said 200 approaches in 6 months. That's the bear minimum to get any kind of results for me. Maybe he's got better game! I make up for my (apparent) lack in skill by approaching anything hot in sight.

I would say a newbie would need to do way more than 200 approaches in 6 months to get any kind of regular harem going since girls tend to come and go.

 

[RockstarPUA]

Re: approaches

Originally posted by everywomanshero
If I remember correctly he said 200 approaches in 6 months. That's the bear minimum to get any kind of results for me. Maybe he's got better game! I make up for my (apparent) lack in skill by approaching anything hot in sight.

I would say a newbie would need to do way more than 200 approaches in 6 months to get any kind of regular harem going since girls tend to come and go.

I did 2000 approaches... (probably a little less)

25ish a night 4-5 days a week for 6 months. Intense but well worthwhile.

The funny thing is that I'm still am learning sooo much. This is a 2-3 year learning process for me.

I am getting hawt women now but there is so much more for me to learn. Ultimatly I would like to be one of those rare guys that is just 100% natural and rock solid all the time.

NINJA PIMP: Its such a relief to have someone acknowledge one of my posts (this sounds terrible but I was beginning to think that there was no point in me being on this board).

The truth is that this Rockstar account is new for me. I used to be Ronin. I've been around for a good two years so I've read all of the good material (and a lot of bad as well).

The problem for me, with this board, is that (as you pointed out) there is so much negativity and arguing. I don't have time for this mainly because it frustrates me.

This is why I left the board a year or so ago and the reason why i am back now is because A) I thought i could help people and b) I messed up my knee playing hockey and therefore can't spend much time in the field so I figured I'd lurk on here for a while.

Regardless, I appriceate your kind words.

Visceral. I completly understand you and where you are coming from. Its hard to get going. Going out for that first day of sarging is the toughest part of this entire process.

Tony Robbins says that to actually follow through on something you have to make it a MUST. Not "I should go out and sarge"...."I MUST go out and sarge".

Really get motivated. Get mad that your not getting girls. Get mad that your lonely. Get upset that you have wasted so much time of your life fearing the opposite sex.

Then FIND A WING. Find some cool guys that go out and sarge. This is essential because it make the expearience fun and you all improve together. It becomes a game Once you start your usually hooked because you realize how easy this all is...

God damn NINJA you are just bang ON!

Glad you agree "On_the_Top".

Tazman, GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD. LOOKS DONT MATTER. If you learn game then you can disengage a woman's logical thoughts like 'hes not hot' and make her feel strong attraction emotions for you!

If you must have an example look to all the best PUAs in the world.

Style is a skinny, pale, shriveled, bald, anorexic looking being that is the world's best PUA.
Mystery is 6'5, as lanky as can be, pale as f*ck and has long greasy hair.
Tyler Durden is short, as white as a ghost, has a small frame with a fat tummy and has a sort of funny looking face.
David X - 45 year old fat grubby construction worker. This guy gets strippers and models.
And then there is Shawn. The guy is three feet tall. He has a savire disability and therefore has a raspy voice, a body the size of a midget and the face of someone with down syndrome. This guy is SEVERELY handicapped but still gets models because of his unstoppable confidence and his postiave outlook on life.

Watch david d's programs. He's on there.

All of these guys, the worlds top PUAs, that have hot long term girl friends or different girls every night of the week are straight up UGLY. I would rate them anywhere from being a 4 (TD) to a 5 (Mystery because of his height).

You might look at these guys and say 'they aren't that ugly'. This is because they show so much confidence and peackock so well that they draw attention away from their looks. Take off all of the flashy sh*t and take away the unstoppable confidence and they are all PATHETIC in the looks department...

There are lots of examples.

everywomanshero: Your right. Thats an awesome attitude. You need to approach everything that walks. Its all a learning expearience!


Everyone here has to stop making excuses and get out in the field, go apporach women and find out yourself how you can overcome your looks insecurities like these top PUAs did. ^^^

Cheers fellas,

~Rockstar

ps.

Originally posted by The Bad Ass Canadian

Are Vancity chicks as easy as Halifax chicks?

Yes and no. I've been told from guys from out of town that Vancouver has the most beautiful women in North America. That being said, Halifax is a college town (where my parents grew up) which means more rowdy drunken parties which means more rowdy drunken sex!

Drop me a line when you come to Vancouver. It wasn't voted #1 most beautiful city in the world and #2 best city in the world to live in for no reason.