A-hole Cops: Kill'em w Kindness

[logicallefty]

I think he means declining the roadside sobriety test - walk a line, stand on one foot, etc., in favor of blowing the portable breathalyzer instead. You can decline one test to take another.

In Illinois, you may decline all tests, but they suspend your license for 1 year instead of the six months it gets suspended for DUI. Lawyers I know usually say to decline the tests when you think you might fail; it gives them a better chance to beat the dui charge due to lack of evidence. However, beating the criminal charge is a separate issue from the license suspension, which is an administrative action and almost impossible to beat.

I've always been told to decline the portable breathalyzer, and ask to be tested with the real one at the station. It's more accurate, and they have to take you to it. Unless you just slammed a bunch of booze that hasn't hit you yet, time will make your bac reading go down. The downside is that they will likely get to impound and tow your car.

I was with my gf one night when she got a dui after blowing .07 - Illinois advertises that .08 gets you a dui. Well so does .07 if they are in the mood to write it. Writing the ticket is at the officer's discretion, regardless of what you blow on the breathalyzer.

You are exactly right about the breathalyzer at the station being more accurate, and often times too, the portable one isn't court admissible.

The only purpose for the fields tests like the walk and turn, horozontal nystagmus of the eyes, one leg stand, etc. are so the cop can build more evidence against you. What you blow in a *court admissable* breathalyzer is really what matters..

Bible, I had a guy pulled over one night just like your GF, he blew a 0.07. He failed the other tests I gave him. I had him on video prior to the stop completely driving all over the road in a very dangerous manor.

What did I do? First, I had to argue for about 5 minutes with a Sr. officer who wanted to arrest him and be done. I was actually somewhat of a rookie back then, but it was 100% my stop/my call. The other officer finally saw it my way, and here is what I did.

I told the guy he was too dangerous to drive, and I would not let him get back behind the wheel tonight, but I would let him call for a ride to come get him and his car. He sat there in his car for about 90 minutes waiting on his ride. I took his keys and told him to call my cell when his ride got there. I came by a few times to check on him, and even brought him a soda from the gas station. His ride got there eventually and yeah needless to say everybody won that night. He didn't get DUI, nor did he keep driving and endanger others. I was pretty happy that I stood my ground with the other officer not to arrest.

 

[Bible_Belt]

This guy was a state cop. He followed her for 2-3 miles. The only thing illegal she did was drive over some yellow double lines, but it was where the road crews had put them in the wrong place. They were worn out in that spot because everyone drove over them.

He got out of his car fifty feet away and was screaming "I smell alcohol" before he'd taken two steps. I knew he'd made up his mind, which is why I was such a ranting raving d!ckhead to everyone. I was the biggest sob possible to cops without being arrested. I think all the lawyer sh!t I kept yelling scared them.

I told the other state cop who got into my car to write down the mileage before they impounded it that he was a worthless pos car thief. He shoved the keys into my face and said, "Here, you want your car back, just take these keys." I was annihilated drunk but I still knew that trick.

I said "Fvck you, assh0le, you're just trying to arrest me, too." And he immediately went back to his paperwork and didn't say another word. Being drunk in a car with keys in your hand is enough to write a dui, and that's what he had planned for me.

Cops took my car with my wallet, keys and phone in it, and ditched me roadside at 3 am. I stumbled into a convenience store, and immediately charmed a sweet young thing into making her bf give me a ride home, 45 minutes away. bf was pissed, but she was too hot to argue with. She seemed to have had bad experiences with cops, and I was able to push those buttons.

I hired a high school football buddy who also went to law school with me as her attorney. A little kid could have won that case, but of course he fvcked us, because he's a lawyer and that's what they do. Everything I would say about the state's weak case would end in "gee whiz, I dunno. That's a lot of work." She ended up getting the plea deal down to reckless driving, which is what everyone gets. So the $1500 to the lawyer was a complete waste of money, other than to show me that my old friend was now a pos.

 

[Married Buried]

^^^ Doesn't sound like you exactly killed him with kindness on that one.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Exactly. That's the point. I had to learn.

 

[Tictac]

The cop profession does draw in control freaks.

Having said that, does your job involve possibly getting shot when you perform routine tasks such as helping get a stalled car moving and traffic cleared?

 

[logicallefty]

This guy was a state cop. He followed her for 2-3 miles. The only thing illegal she did was drive over some yellow double lines, but it was where the road crews had put them in the wrong place. They were worn out in that spot because everyone drove over them.

He got out of his car fifty feet away and was screaming "I smell alcohol" before he'd taken two steps. I knew he'd made up his mind, which is why I was such a ranting raving d!ckhead to everyone. I was the biggest sob possible to cops without being arrested. I think all the lawyer sh!t I kept yelling scared them.

I told the other state cop who got into my car to write down the mileage before they impounded it that he was a worthless pos car thief. He shoved the keys into my face and said, "Here, you want your car back, just take these keys." I was annihilated drunk but I still knew that trick.

I said "Fvck you, assh0le, you're just trying to arrest me, too." And he immediately went back to his paperwork and didn't say another word. Being drunk in a car with keys in your hand is enough to write a dui, and that's what he had planned for me.

Cops took my car with my wallet, keys and phone in it, and ditched me roadside at 3 am. I stumbled into a convenience store, and immediately charmed a sweet young thing into making her bf give me a ride home, 45 minutes away. bf was pissed, but she was too hot to argue with. She seemed to have had bad experiences with cops, and I was able to push those buttons.

I hired a high school football buddy who also went to law school with me as her attorney. A little kid could have won that case, but of course he fvcked us, because he's a lawyer and that's what they do. Everything I would say about the state's weak case would end in "gee whiz, I dunno. That's a lot of work." She ended up getting the plea deal down to reckless driving, which is what everyone gets. So the $1500 to the lawyer was a complete waste of money, other than to show me that my old friend was now a pos.

State Troopers here are hit and miss around my area. Most are cool, but not all. I had one write me a ticket once for 59 in a 55. Come the fvck on? I got out of it, but it was a hassle. I do trust State way over any County deputy around here, they are really bad.. I have the State Police on speed dial in case the County ever fvcks with me again.. I'm actually kind of waiting for County to fvck with me so I can record them and then sue their a$$es. I didnt have smartphone before but I do now.. Sue and get a nice pot of cash for all the hell they have put me through. I'm just waiting... After what I did a couple years ago with FOIA and the Chairman of the Board, they don't wanna mess with me anymore.

Took your car without letting you get your wallet and phone? WTF. Yeah I agree it sounds like a setup, put the keys in your hand and then nail you.

 

[logicallefty]

The cop profession does draw in control freaks.

Having said that, does your job involve possibly getting shot when you perform routine tasks such as helping get a stalled car moving and traffic cleared?

NO EXCUSE. 1) you know the risk when you take the job 2) part of police academy training is PEOPLE SKILLS. You are supposed to be the best of the best when dealing with people. If you can't be then you aren't qualified for the job.

 

[Tictac]

So go sign up lefty.

 

[speed dawg]

I don't see the problem here. I like it when cops are *******s. I'd much rather them have that attitude, than be too lackadaisical. I enjoy a safe way of life. All of you that crow about your freedoms being taken away, I have to disagree. Cops have never bothered me when I wasn't doing anything wrong. Think about the sh*t they have to see and put up with on a daily basis.

And yeah....I know....they signed up for it. They are responsible for themselves. But still, it's easy to see how they develop a negative attitude towards the general public.

 

[TheVirtualMind]

You're wrong. You can refuse the physical roadside test where you get out of your car and walk on one leg or whatever, what you you cannot refuse is the breathalyzer.

I think he means declining the roadside sobriety test - walk a line, stand on one foot, etc., in favor of blowing the portable breathalyzer instead. You can decline one test to take another.

Bingo. In the state I'm in, you can refuse the roadside tests, but you'll go for a breath test at the station. Refuse that too, automatic suspension of license for a year.

Also, depending on what your BAC is on the breath test, you can be released with a few citations versus taken to jail. Also depends on attitude a bit too, just like a lot of things.

 

[VikingKing]

I've had mostly goo experiences with cops. They key is to be polite, and calm.

For example. When I was 19, I was at a party at a friends. I was drunk, smoked weed, on Xanax, and Vicodin. I decided I wanted to go back to my other friends. So I got into my car, and drove off. I made it about ten miles. It was a blizzard. There was about a foot of snow on an un plowed road. But I was in it for the long haul, I was going to make it. So there I am, cant see more than 15 feet in front of me, I got one eye closed and I was very focused.

Some how I slid, and I went into the ditch only about 3 feet. I had 9 miles to go, In between to farm fields, at three in the morning, and no cell phone. Luckily I was prepared. I had about 5 flannels, gloves, and a hat and jacket. I suited up and started walking. I saw a car, and stuck my thumb out, he stopped and said "what"... I said can you give me a ride, he said "no" and drove off. What a d!ck.

So I get about 2 miles from my car, the cops roll up on me. I told them what happend, that I was drunk.

Guess what, they said because they found me so far from my car, they weren't going to charge me with anything, all they did was take me to jail for the night, then I was free to go.

Another time I was on some pills, some lady pulled out infront of me I hit her. It really was her fault, the girl behind me asked if we need a witness, I asked her whos fault does she think it is, she pointed a the other car, so I said yes. Now I was driving on a suspended licence, so legally I should not not have been on the road in the first place. However, I just said "oh I paid the fine, and thought I was good" The cop was like "you need to pay a re-reinstatement fee" (I knew that) me "Oh I had no idea". I basically stood by my car, kept my mouth shut, and spoke only when spoken to. The other lady whined and b!tched the whole time, all she did was p!ss the cop off. She ended up buying me a car better than the one I had.

I should have multiple dui's, but I dont.

It really is all about showing respect, and even make them laugh if you can. They are human beings, and if they like you they will be flexible. Cops are easy to deal with.

Except Chicago police, fvck them. They took my car, and they were d!cks about it. Left me in the middle of the black ghetto in chicago, with no money, and only my cellphone. I walked far that night. But I found a way.

Some times it helps to hand them your military Id along with your license.

You wouldnt believe the sh!t you can get away with.

 

[logicallefty]

So go sign up lefty.

You bet. Been a patrol cop and detective before. Working on it again. Waiting for an opening at just the right department.

 

[Bokanovsky]

A$$hole cops are nothing new. At least, in the old days, they tried to maintain a professional demeanour. These days, it's like amateur hour. By virtue of my job, I'm court a lot. I see cops there all the time, either manning the metal detectors or waiting in the hall to get called to testify. The way some of these guys and gals act really makes you wonder who hired them to "protect public order".

First, you've got all these cops that look and talk more like gang members than police officers. Neck and "sleeve" tattoos, talking to each other in slang, etc. The other day, these two cops walk buy and one of them is signing "turn down for what". I mean, seriously? You are a cop, in a court house, and you are singing a rap song out loud? Then there was this cop who was cracking jokes (really loudly I might add) about his buddy drinking and driving. The two other cops were all having a good laugh about it. Again, this is all in the court house, with tons of people around.

Now I'm not saying that all cops are like this but it's becoming an alarming trend. On the flip side, I've had some positive experiences with cops as well. Interestingly, most of these were with cops down south. American cops, in general, seem to be less prickish than their Canadian counterparts.