A goodlooking face or money is everything. Not being Don Juan.

[maverick72]

Guys,

I hate to break it to you. But your face, money and even having fame has everything to do with being successful with the ladies. Forget about being a don juan by some weirdo named Pook or reading the bible or some guy named mystery the pick up artist. (He has some fame by the way.)

Gaming means nothing unless you have looks, money or fame.

Countless studies have been done in social studies. A goodlooking face pulls in the most women no matter how shy or insecure you are. Money attracts the ladies on a secondary level and fame attracts on all levels. You can be a dork like the guy on "saved by the bell" who is famous and still pull in girls like moth to a flame. Fame is game. Money is game. Your face is game. Period. Nothing else trumps those 3 things.

Personality only goes so far.....don juan antics won't get you far if you look like gilbert godfried or danny devito.

If brad pitt were a regular guy he would still pull in tons of ladies in his geographical area of where he lived. But since he is famous---most girls all over the world know him. He is goodlooking, rich, and famous. He can go into any bar and pull in a chick with ease. They flock to him. He aint no stinkin don juan either.

Guys if you hate your nose, get plastic surgery, if you hate your face, fix it, if you hate your glasses, get contacts. If you hate your acne go see dermatogist to clear it up. Your face is everything to attract the ladies.
Or take acting classes and try to get famous.
Or make a million or make 100k a year is sufficient.

Otherwise you are wasting your time with this don juan stuff.

Improving your appearance is the best thing you can do--namely your face.

That is reality 101. I know many guys will say...."he is a troll dont listen to him" or "his grammar stinks" or some other negative comment, etc.

I gave you heavy dose of reality. Just accept it. You have 3 options to attarct the babes:

1.) Improve our face
2.) Get wealthy
3.) Be famous

 

[IKO69]

I get what you're saying but that kind of attitude will get you nowhere. Yes if you're super handsome and have fame you'll have it easier. It doesn't mean you have to suffer because you don't have any of those things. I see guys on the weekends all the time who have neither of those things and have someone, sometimes a real pretty girlfriend/wife. The difference is those men decide to straighten out their business rather than give up.

Besides how do you know if you're good looking or not to a woman unless you try? You can ASSUME, but you don't know for sure.

 

[Black Dog]

I gave you heavy dose of reality. Just accept it. You have 3 options to attarct the babes:

1.) Improve our face
2.) Get wealthy
3.) Be famous

Lollllllllll. What a cute essay, don't you have better ways to spend your time though?

 

[floydb25]

So, which one is it? Are you a troll who bangs all these girls, and everyone here is a nerd who never touched a woman? Or, are you bitter and angry because you weren't attractive enough to get past the first date with any of them? You seem to be going back and forth between the two.

My guess is on the latter - given the nature of your posts.

 

[aura]

The negativity on this forum is quite telling.

 

[Borknagar]

Looks do matter but much can be improved by how you dress and your swaggar. I get approached and women are easily attracted when I go out, I have that edge, having a edge to you really helps. Good looking + edge = FTW!

 

[maverick72]

bork you sounded gay when you wrote that. swagger? so you swagger when you go out? lol

I wish ROLLI or whatever his name is would delete all my posts and ban me.

Where is he? I have even asked a moderator to delete my account. Nothing.

 

[AlNess]

bork you sounded gay when you wrote that. swagger? so you swagger when you go out? lol

I wish ROLLI or whatever his name is would delete all my posts and ban me.

Where is he? I have even asked a moderator to delete my account. Nothing.

Or you can just leave this forum without looking back.

 

[OC Speedball]

You hate to break it to me? My cousin is probably a 5/10 and he is dating a 9/10 and he spins plates like crazy.

70% of it is personality and what you have to offer. Especially as girls get older.

 

[Scars]

Sad, but true.

-Scars

 

[btownbuck2012]

Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll.
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.


I'm tired of reading some of the horsesh! t posted on this site. Perseverance is all. I don't care how ugly or short or w/e you are. If you want to land yourself a true beauty you most certainly can. Perseverance is all.

 

[macagent]

trollin be good round these parts, eh Mav?

 

[Scars]

Out of the night that covers me,
Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
I thank whatever gods may be
For my unconquerable soul.

In the fell clutch of circumstance
I have not winced nor cried aloud.
Under the bludgeonings of chance
My head is bloody, but unbowed.

Beyond this place of wrath and tears
Looms but the Horror of the shade,
And yet the menace of the years
Finds, and shall find, me unafraid.

It matters not how strait the gate,
How charged with punishments the scroll.
I am the master of my fate:
I am the captain of my soul.


I'm tired of reading some of the horsesh! t posted on this site. Perseverance is all. I don't care how ugly or short or w/e you are. If you want to land yourself a true beauty you most certainly can. Perseverance is all.

Perseverance can get you there, and having game does work. Otherwise we wouldn't be here. But add looks, money, or fame into the equation and you are at an extreme advantage. These types of people don't have to work for women, they just come to them. For the rest of us, we have to read the DJ bible, "The Game" and develop our skills through countless trial and error.

That's not to say that game is useless.

Which would a woman rather have? An AFC husband that's super rich, or a super rich husband with a bit of game that knows how to keep her interested and on her toes?

But at the same time, a woman will choose a super rich AFC over an average guy with decent game.

I know a lot of guys don't want to believe it, but you are simply just lying to yourselves. You're trying to rationalize why you haven't been successful. You must understand that woman are ALWAYS looking for the better catch.

-Scars

 

[btownbuck2012]

I know a lot of guys don't want to believe it, but you are simply just lying to yourselves. You're trying to rationalize why you haven't been successful. You must understand that woman are ALWAYS looking for the better catch.

-Scars

First of all, I'm not lying to myself. I know it's rough out there and that if you still believe the love conquers all myth than you're more than likely gonna get yourself into a bad situation with a low quality girl.

My point, however,is that it's under your control completely. All this "you gotta be mega rich, super hot, super buff" horsesh! t is wrong. You may be rejected QUITE a bit before you meet a girl who digs you and your style BUT if you keep trying you'll meet her.

Yes it's hard, BUT it's not impossible.

 

[handle]

Of course things like fame, money, genetics, etc affect how women react to you. But this forum is about all the things you can choose to change.

 

[Rubato]

Of course things like fame, money, genetics, etc affect how women react to you. But this forum is about all the things you can choose to change.

This.

What a waste of time to spend time hung up on things you can't change. If you really feel like you have to be a superstar to attract a woman, you'll probably never be a superstar or a good man.

On the other hand, if you feel like you have to be a good man in order to attract a woman, that's something totally different. Anyone can become a good man, but not everyone can become a superstar. Good men tend to be the raw product for superstar formation that is not a result of a lucky birth.

This attitude that a rock star can have his pick of the litter is really starting to get on my nerves because it's a statement that's only half true. Mick Jagger or Johnny Depp could walk in anywhere and walk out with just about whoever they want. That's the truth in this statement. The lie is found everywhere else because it assumes that level of success (or even a close level of success) is not possible without fame and riches.

Let's also consider what the chances are that anyone of us will ever be AMOG'd by a Johnny Depp or Mick Jagger. Probs not.

I would tell anyone who says this to make themselves a regular at a popular night club or bar and pay attention for a few weekends. Just observe. There's going to be a select number of guys who are "the man" there, and they're probably schmucks who spend their days working for a low end plumbing company or doing menial construction work. They're not rich, famous, or anything else, except a man.

And do you really think you have to be rich, famous, ect in order for people to think you are? If you read the last field report I posted in my journal, I had a girl approach ME and tell me I looked familiar and asked me if I was in a band (like a professional band). I look a lot like Rob Thomas from Matchbox 20, but was so surprised to have a girl opening me I didn't give her a good reason to even consider that I might be him. I look so much like Rot Thomas my wing has a picture of him on stage at a concert on his phone and pictures of my band mixed in. No one can tell the difference.

Now why did that girl ask me if I looked familiar and was in a band? And why did another girl ask me that night if I worked with Vin Diesel (again, I didn't think anything like this would happen and wasn't prepared to respond)? Why did another girl just come up to me and randomly start rubbing a penis shaped straw over my chest?

I dressed like a rock star. And I acted like a rock star. And I was opened 3 times (actually 4 times, but I don't know if a girl's friend asking me to buy her a drink for her 21st birthday really counts. I literally pushed that b$tch away. I'm not buying some random girl who doesn't give a sh$t about me outside of the contents of my wallet a drink. That attitude of entitlement floors me. I really can't even wrap my mind around why guys buy girls drinks they don't know, especially given it's success rate. Has anyone ever bought a girl a drink and as a result, slept with her? NO. End rant.)

If girls are as worthless as a lot of guys here say, then it shouldn't be hard to imagine that subtly manipulating our appearance could have a dramatic effect on the way we are perceived. Granted, I don't have this stuff down solid half as good as a lot of other people here do, but I can at least see this and have been able to make modifications in my style that are generating positive results. What could some of the more experienced sosuavers do if they stopped believing this nonsense??

You have 3 choices. Believe the half truth, half lie (and by extension, believe a lie).

Accept the half truth and reject the lie. Then either do something about it, don't.

 

[movistar]

I've lost girls to guys who weren't as good looking... in any way, but they were popular so maybe that was a mild sample of fame.

I have a friend that I always see with hot girls, he plays the numbers game like a pro. If we ever hang out together he'll get the girls talking, but they always gravitate towards me, basically if he hung out with just me to look for chicks he would only get scraps, but when he is out, hunting alone or with others he pulls them...

It's easier with the looks and money, but you can help your odds by being smart about how you play the game...

Isolate then conquer!!

 

[perseverance]

If I had the same outlook as Maverick72, I would struggle to get out of bed in the morning.

 

[nismo-4]

If there were a way of getting all of those things right now, we'd all be working on it.

 

[floydb25]

RE: These types of people don't have to work for women, they just come to them. For the rest of us, we have to read the DJ bible, "The Game" and develop our skills through countless trial and error.

Disagree, to an extent. You don't have to try as hard, and girls will come to you, but none of them will stick around if you have no game.

I used to think that, since girls found me very attractive and popular, and dating them was no problem - that all I needed was looks. It provided lots of opportunities, sure, but without having any game - there were no results. Average people get friend-zoned right away - while good looking people end up there. There is no difference, really.

Good looking people have an advantage, but by no means is it a free-pass. They still have to apply many of the same tactics, like being a challenge. I think they also have more opportunities to apply them - given that more women want them. So, they have more practice and knowledge. You also have more confidence - since women find you attractive. It just comes with the territory.

A good looking guy with no game will still lose to an average guy with lots of it, though. It's good knowledge for everyone.