MindOverMatter
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DISCLAIMER - This was field tested by your friendly neighbourhood MindOverMatter and found to work a numerous amount of times. However, while it has worked for me time after time, it may not work for everyone (even tho I personally think it should). This may not be the BEST first date idea, but I've had really great success with it, and have escalated it into first date sex several times, so I feel compelled to share it.
The date is divided into 3 time periods:
1.) The comedy club period.
2.) Going out for drinks period.
3.) Isolation period.
I will explain the workings of each period and why they are necessery.
1.) The Comedy Club.
If you meet girls via cold approaches, the first date can be very stressful for the girl, as she has just met you. Unless she's a total sl*t (and if she is, you don't need this tip), her defenses will be up and she will be nervous. After all, she just met you, and this is the time she gets to know you. For the fellow psychologists out there, her brain will be releasing mass amounts of cholecystokinin and dynorphins.
The same thing can happen to you if you have recently kickstarted your game or your game is not that strong and you are intimidated by her looks etc.
This is why the comedy club is so essential. When you watch stand up comedians, both of you are guaranteed a laugh. If the comedian is good, his jokes will make you cry from laughter. If he is bad, you will laugh at how bad the jokes are. Laughter is like a drug. When you laugh, your brain releases mass amounts of endorphins, and you become happy and relaxed. This is the best way to eliminate the anxiety of the first date in the girl or yourself (some might argue that liquor is better, but that's weak game).
Another reason the comedy club is so great is because girls associate their feelings during the date with whoever they were out with, rather then the events of the date. The comedians will make her laugh, but the next day when she looks back, she will probably forget most of their jokes, but one thing she will remember is you, and how much fun she had being around you. Staying in her head after the first date is over is KEY.
Tickets - $6-12 each.
2.) Going out for drinks.
This is the chemistry stage. She is very relaxed now (after laughing for 1-2 hrs straight), and both of you will have a natural high. This is where you take her to a nice martini lounge where you can sit down and have drinks and talk. A coffee shop will do if you don't want to spend too much money on the date.
This is where you establish a connection with her. You will talk to her, find out as much as you can about her.
Player Supreme explains this really well.:
Picture this scenario with reversed roles, where the girl is trying to learn every detail about your personality and loves listening about your life. You can't help but feel good and appreciated.
You make her feel like her life is interesting, and that hooks her.
Find out how she sees herself, how others see her, how she wants others to see her. Find out her embarassing moment, and share your own. Discover common interests, whether it's the way you two think, the music you listen to, the childhoods you had, etc.
Establish a connection. Make her think in the back of her head that you may possibly be a male version of her. Responses like "me too", "I'm exactly the same way", "I know I have the same problem", "wow you think just like me", work GREAT. Forget that bullsh!t about how opposites attract. People want full compatibility when it comes to being involved with someone. The more she has in common with you, the more she is compatible, the more she is hooked on you.
Money spent - $10-20, $3-8 if you went out for coffee.
3.) Isolation period / kino / kiss stage (homerun?).
We are nearing the ending of the date. By now she should be feeling very euphoric from the previous two activities. If you have executed step 2 properly, she will feel very comfortable with you, and she will know that there is a connection. By this time, she is very relaxed, and wants kino.
This is where you isolate her. In my city, there is a really nice park downtown which overlooks another city accross the river (looks amazing at night) and happens to be near the comedy club and lounges that I frequent on dates. Your location may not be as great, but the key is to take the girl for a walk and isolate her.
During this time we'll start walking and I'll offer her my arm, and she'll hold on to it. We'll have light conversation, and during this time I'll start speaking in a lower tone of voice, and focus on getting her into a sexual state. For more info on this, read the Gunwitch Method (it's linked in the bible).
Now is the part where I go for the kiss (this is for people who have problems initiating the kiss).
During this time, I either take the girl and sit down close to her on one of the park benches, or I go to this walkway overlooking the river and I pull her close to me with my hands on her hips (I prefer the 2nd one). I am near the kiss zone now, but I'm not kissing her right away. I'm still talking to her, in a low voice, and having great EC. She knows she is gonna be kissed, but she doesn't know when. The key here is to make her wait for it, and anticipate it. Since she knows it's coming, and is anticipating it, wondering when you will kiss her, in her head, she wants to kiss you even more. I've had a few dates where the girl couldn't wait and was the one to initiate the kiss.
When I finally decide to kiss her, I use one of my hands to brush her hair behind her ear, then put the hand on her cheek, close my eyes and go for the kiss. Proceed to make out. Use your hands while you're kissing her. Caress her cheeks, run them over her back, slide them over her hips / waist, move them up towards her breasts but don't go for them yet, make her anticipate it and want it. In other words, kino the hell out of her.
This is where you decide whether or not to take it to the next level, and isolate her even more (i.e. take her back to your place). This requires a certain magnitude of balls, since some girls will get offended thinking you see them as a sl*t that f*cks on the first date, or that you are trying to use her. So this is what I advise.
If you are making out with her and you are getting crazy signals that she is horny (in my case, the girl would kino me like crazy, run her hands over my buddy, feel my abs, ass or the boner that's pressing against her body). One of the girls I went out with pulled the smoothest move ever on me. While we were making out, she unbuttoned my shirt without me even noticing it, and I only found this out after I felt her hands sliding up and down my chest.
if your make-out session is evolving like this, suggest that you go someplace that's more quiet and then go to either her place or yours (I don't have sex in the car because it's uncomfortable [i'm 6'2] and somewhat sleazy)
however, If you are making out with her and she is enjoying it, but is somewhat conservative (i.e. she lets you kino her but does not return it as eagerly as she recieves it), then end the date like that unless you wanna be ballsy and take a risk. By ending the date on a high note like that, your chances of screwing her on the 2nd date become much higher then your chances of screwing her on the first date. What you chose to do here is up to you.
Good luck! Hope you enjoy this method as much as I have enjoyed developing it.
The date is divided into 3 time periods:
1.) The comedy club period.
2.) Going out for drinks period.
3.) Isolation period.
I will explain the workings of each period and why they are necessery.
1.) The Comedy Club.
If you meet girls via cold approaches, the first date can be very stressful for the girl, as she has just met you. Unless she's a total sl*t (and if she is, you don't need this tip), her defenses will be up and she will be nervous. After all, she just met you, and this is the time she gets to know you. For the fellow psychologists out there, her brain will be releasing mass amounts of cholecystokinin and dynorphins.
The same thing can happen to you if you have recently kickstarted your game or your game is not that strong and you are intimidated by her looks etc.
This is why the comedy club is so essential. When you watch stand up comedians, both of you are guaranteed a laugh. If the comedian is good, his jokes will make you cry from laughter. If he is bad, you will laugh at how bad the jokes are. Laughter is like a drug. When you laugh, your brain releases mass amounts of endorphins, and you become happy and relaxed. This is the best way to eliminate the anxiety of the first date in the girl or yourself (some might argue that liquor is better, but that's weak game).
Another reason the comedy club is so great is because girls associate their feelings during the date with whoever they were out with, rather then the events of the date. The comedians will make her laugh, but the next day when she looks back, she will probably forget most of their jokes, but one thing she will remember is you, and how much fun she had being around you. Staying in her head after the first date is over is KEY.
Tickets - $6-12 each.
2.) Going out for drinks.
This is the chemistry stage. She is very relaxed now (after laughing for 1-2 hrs straight), and both of you will have a natural high. This is where you take her to a nice martini lounge where you can sit down and have drinks and talk. A coffee shop will do if you don't want to spend too much money on the date.
This is where you establish a connection with her. You will talk to her, find out as much as you can about her.
Player Supreme explains this really well.:
Through this, you learn about her, and what type of girl she is and how to handle her. You also give her a chance to tell you her story, and this makes girls feel really safe/happy, because it shows that you are interested in getting to know what type of person she is. We all amazing life stories that we never get to share with people we date/screw because they never ask or bring up the subject.
Picture this scenario with reversed roles, where the girl is trying to learn every detail about your personality and loves listening about your life. You can't help but feel good and appreciated.
You make her feel like her life is interesting, and that hooks her.
Find out how she sees herself, how others see her, how she wants others to see her. Find out her embarassing moment, and share your own. Discover common interests, whether it's the way you two think, the music you listen to, the childhoods you had, etc.
Establish a connection. Make her think in the back of her head that you may possibly be a male version of her. Responses like "me too", "I'm exactly the same way", "I know I have the same problem", "wow you think just like me", work GREAT. Forget that bullsh!t about how opposites attract. People want full compatibility when it comes to being involved with someone. The more she has in common with you, the more she is compatible, the more she is hooked on you.
Money spent - $10-20, $3-8 if you went out for coffee.
3.) Isolation period / kino / kiss stage (homerun?).
We are nearing the ending of the date. By now she should be feeling very euphoric from the previous two activities. If you have executed step 2 properly, she will feel very comfortable with you, and she will know that there is a connection. By this time, she is very relaxed, and wants kino.
This is where you isolate her. In my city, there is a really nice park downtown which overlooks another city accross the river (looks amazing at night) and happens to be near the comedy club and lounges that I frequent on dates. Your location may not be as great, but the key is to take the girl for a walk and isolate her.
During this time we'll start walking and I'll offer her my arm, and she'll hold on to it. We'll have light conversation, and during this time I'll start speaking in a lower tone of voice, and focus on getting her into a sexual state. For more info on this, read the Gunwitch Method (it's linked in the bible).
Now is the part where I go for the kiss (this is for people who have problems initiating the kiss).
During this time, I either take the girl and sit down close to her on one of the park benches, or I go to this walkway overlooking the river and I pull her close to me with my hands on her hips (I prefer the 2nd one). I am near the kiss zone now, but I'm not kissing her right away. I'm still talking to her, in a low voice, and having great EC. She knows she is gonna be kissed, but she doesn't know when. The key here is to make her wait for it, and anticipate it. Since she knows it's coming, and is anticipating it, wondering when you will kiss her, in her head, she wants to kiss you even more. I've had a few dates where the girl couldn't wait and was the one to initiate the kiss.
When I finally decide to kiss her, I use one of my hands to brush her hair behind her ear, then put the hand on her cheek, close my eyes and go for the kiss. Proceed to make out. Use your hands while you're kissing her. Caress her cheeks, run them over her back, slide them over her hips / waist, move them up towards her breasts but don't go for them yet, make her anticipate it and want it. In other words, kino the hell out of her.
This is where you decide whether or not to take it to the next level, and isolate her even more (i.e. take her back to your place). This requires a certain magnitude of balls, since some girls will get offended thinking you see them as a sl*t that f*cks on the first date, or that you are trying to use her. So this is what I advise.
If you are making out with her and you are getting crazy signals that she is horny (in my case, the girl would kino me like crazy, run her hands over my buddy, feel my abs, ass or the boner that's pressing against her body). One of the girls I went out with pulled the smoothest move ever on me. While we were making out, she unbuttoned my shirt without me even noticing it, and I only found this out after I felt her hands sliding up and down my chest.
if your make-out session is evolving like this, suggest that you go someplace that's more quiet and then go to either her place or yours (I don't have sex in the car because it's uncomfortable [i'm 6'2] and somewhat sleazy)
however, If you are making out with her and she is enjoying it, but is somewhat conservative (i.e. she lets you kino her but does not return it as eagerly as she recieves it), then end the date like that unless you wanna be ballsy and take a risk. By ending the date on a high note like that, your chances of screwing her on the 2nd date become much higher then your chances of screwing her on the first date. What you chose to do here is up to you.
Good luck! Hope you enjoy this method as much as I have enjoyed developing it.