A Dose of Reality for the Young Uns

[GordonGekko]

It makes me sad to read posts here about how "nice" females really are, and how if only we are nice too we will get laid.

Take it from a guy old enough to be your dad, it ain't so. Women are into money.

They may think that they love you but lose your job or your ability to work, and they will drop you like a hot potato. On the other hand, they will put up with almost any amount of abuse from a guy with money.

I have been single, married, and divorced. During my day I have banged around 80-90 women.

They are all the same underneath: ruthless and calculating *****es who measure you by the size of your net worth.

Never forget that.

 

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no they dont, im living proof, i dont have 2 cents to rub together half the time yet i still attract women.

sure your theory may apply to some very well off areas where the ratio of gold diggers is alot higher.

you can have all the money in the world but if you dont have whats what inside of you and personality your basically fuct when it comes to REAL attraction.

however i agree with this

They are all the same underneath: ruthless and calculating

but this isnt necessarily bad.

 

[squirrels]

Every woman's going to look at you and say, "Can he make me feel good? Can he show me a good time?" and if you can't afford to go out and have a good time with her, then it IS going to make a difference. Plus, if you don't have a job, or if you're not willing to spend money on things you want, then it shows a lack of ambition.

But, except for gold-diggers and *****s, it doesn't end with the dollar. If you're just interested in sex or trophy women, though, then money will get you what you want. IF you know how to use it.

 

[davelmn2003]

I'd say that not all women are gold-diggers, BUT I have to say that a lot of them are very materialistic. You may not have to be very rich, but they often judge you by materialistic standards: what kind of job you have, where you live, what you wear, how much you have, whether you have a car, and if so, what kind of a car, where you're taking them for fun...

This girl I went out with took a look at my apartment--very well kept but, alas, small--and I could see the look of disappointment. And when she found out that I didn't have a car? ha!

Women are materialistic! You don't hear guys complaining that a girl doesn't have money, a "good" job, or a nice place. Most of the time we focus on HER.

 

[Walden]

I don't believe that , but if your world-view makes that real for you then use it to your advantage.

Go someplace poor , be a real big guy.

 

[violator]

You have to understand that it is not their fault that they think that way. It is just that women are biologically wired to choose the male who has the goods so to speak; and for good reason: SURVIVAL.

Ever since the beginning of man kind, the men have been the hunters and providers while the women stayed home, or in a cave for that matter, waiting for the man to bring home supper for the family. It was the most aggressive and strongest male that was able to survive and provide for his family. Therefore, it was only natural that women chose the male who had something to show for himself; someone who had the capacity to survive the rigors of every day life, which way back then meant fighting off saber tooth tigers and other humans.

In today's society, the same basic concept is at play. The man with the money and who has something to show for himself, i.e, a good job, nice car, nice house, etc. is going to be a hot commodity because he is perceived as being successful and having what it takes to provide for a woman and her chidren so that her lineage will survive. If he doesn't have money, then the woman may nonetheless be attracted to a man's aggressiveness and courage which is why girls are attracted to jerks/alpha males who exhibit these characteristics. Ergo, men with status and jerks rather than nice guys get the ladies.

So, yes there are plenty of superficial gold diggers out there and of course they should be discarded. But, even a woman who is truly interested in you is going to be biologically programmed to take notice of what you have to offer by way of your potential earnings capacity and your ability to provide for her and her children.

 

[nistelrooy]

....Girls don't like boys, girls like cars and money.......

 

[GordonGekko]

Originally posted by violator


So, yes there are plenty of superficial gold diggers out there and of course they should be discarded. But, even a woman who is truly interested in you is going to be biologically programmed to take notice of what you have to offer by way of your potential earnings capacity and your ability to provide for her and her children.

:Cluephone Ringing:

Absolutely correct.

 

[Helter Skelter]

For a quality girl, money won't get you anything. Money is only good for getting a lot of undesirable women. Looks are the most important feature (she has to be attracted to you) For example, from a group of twenty guys the girl is attracted to, she will pick the one with the best personality and/or that she has the best connection with.

Looks get you in the door, money doesn't. I'm rich and it doesn't help with the really great girls, unless she has some attraction to you. Anyone that tells you any diffrent hasn't been in this situation and is only guessing.

A quality girl is basically someone you would want to spend the rest of your life with.

 

[Helter Skelter]

And I just wanted to add, if you are marrying women who only care about money, than your not a very good judge of character.

 

[marqZAL]

no they dont, im living proof, i dont have 2 cents to rub together half the time yet i still attract women.

This is easy when your younger to say..however when women want to start settling down...they want a provider...not a chump! I am 25, and starting to get to the age where alot of women who are my age are thinking of stelling down And when most women want to settle down they want a man who can provide them with a good life!!! And if they are independant and have a good job of thier own... they want a man whose better than them, whose stronger than them..the stronger the women...the strong the man has to be. Not everythign is written in stone...but for the average joe and jane blow this the truth. Do I hate women for it...no!!! The wonderful thing about attraction is that once someone not matter how strong they are is in your web...more times than not they will play by your rules. "I am in charge and dont ever forget it"...that should be the motto of every man, but its only the motto of the Alphamales!

 

[Helter Skelter]

Does anyone know what Zal just said?

 

[GordonGekko]

Originally posted by marqZAL
And if they are independant and have a good job of thier own... they want a man whose better than them, whose stronger than them..the stronger the women...the strong the man has to be.

Troof! Women will only marry "up" and never "down". If she is earning good coin her man must be earning more.

 

[Chemistry]

To the above post... no

I've seen plenty of women who are more than able to support themselves marry the guy of their choice... I'm not talkin just normal women here tho', high flyin' women... you can take the Hollywood world for a well publicised with people like J Lo marryin' their dancer... in a lot of cases it doesn't last long, but the question is where the problem lies, was it broken off as the woman wanted that to happen, or did the guy change as he ended up feelin' inferior and a little helpless given the difference in earning power, and the male need to be the breadwinner in many cases?

But honestly, I don't see anything wrong with all that's being spoken about... so this woman wants to hook up with the guy that is going to be able to provide the best things for her, and any child that may become of a LTR and possible marriage... it's everyone's goal to produce the best possible offspring, so the female will hook up with that guy who's workin in a powerful position because that brings a much higher chance that the child will also follow that route, and if not, at least it will have his or her good looks... why would a woman if she has the choice, have an ugly high school drop out's kid if she could have this good lookin high flyer's kid?

The argument about, "Oh, but she connects with the drop out" can be thrown out... are you tellin me that, the drop out is the only person she connects with that well? No, but since she's gettin older, and all the good lookin' high flyin' guys just aren't connectin' with her like the other, she's made the choice to settle... but if she found a good lookin' high flyin' guy who connected with her like that, and there will be one out there, I can guarantee that she would pick the high flyer... she just didn't meet him tho'

 

[GordonGekko]

Originally posted by Ashley Chuckles
To the above post... no

I've seen plenty of women who are more than able to support themselves marry the guy of their choice... I'm not talkin just normal women here tho', high flyin' women... you can take the Hollywood world for a well publicised with people like J Lo marryin' their dancer... in a lot of cases it doesn't last long, but the question is where the problem lies, was it broken off as the woman wanted that to happen, or did the guy change as he ended up feelin' inferior and a little helpless given the difference in earning power, and the male need to be the breadwinner in many cases?

But honestly, I don't see anything wrong with all that's being spoken about... so this woman wants to hook up with the guy that is going to be able to provide the best things for her, and any child that may become of a LTR and possible marriage... it's everyone's goal to produce the best possible offspring, so the female will hook up with that guy who's workin in a powerful position because that brings a much higher chance that the child will also follow that route, and if not, at least it will have his or her good looks... why would a woman if she has the choice, have an ugly high school drop out's kid if she could have this good lookin high flyer's kid?

The argument about, "Oh, but she connects with the drop out" can be thrown out... are you tellin me that, the drop out is the only person she connects with that well? No, but since she's gettin older, and all the good lookin' high flyin' guys just aren't connectin' with her like the other, she's made the choice to settle... but if she found a good lookin' high flyin' guy who connected with her like that, and there will be one out there, I can guarantee that she would pick the high flyer... she just didn't meet him tho'

Wow! Honest words froma female!

 

[Titus]

GordonGekko, there is one thing that you should know too. That is how you percieve them, and that is your holy throne of seeing. But do you think that that the rest of the world sits on the totaly same throne as you?

 

[Da Star Child]

Putting your bi#$%es before b&*ches is considered subtraction

by al-shid- m.a.t.h.

 

[marqZAL]

Putting your bi#$%es before b&*ches is considered subtraction

LOL what?

 

[mitraz]

it's everyone's goal to produce the best possible offspring, so the female will hook up with that guy who's workin in a powerful position because that brings a much higher chance that the child will also follow that route, and if not, at least it will have his or her good looks...

You are assuming that everyone in high position are good-looking.

This is not true.

 

[GordonGekko]

Originally posted by Titus
GordonGekko, there is one thing that you should know too. That is how you percieve them, and that is your holy throne of seeing. But do you think that that the rest of the world sits on the totaly same throne as you?

I used to think like you. Then I smartened up after many bad experiences. You will come round to my way of thinking.