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A difficult mother

OnTheWayUp

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Gents,

I'm at my wits' end with my mother at the moment. I'm living at home at the moment as I'm in the middle of my university holidays and she's really trying my patience.

As I have alluded to in previous posts, I have had a typical beta male upbringing. My father has many qualities and I will always love him for them, but he is ultimately a spineless beta. My domineering mother has always run the house for as long as I can remember. She takes all the decisions of significance and responsibility for the day-to-day actions of the family as a whole when we are at home, especially my father. My father (bless him) has major oneitis and tolerates everything.

The thing I find the most difficult about my mother is her constant negativity. She will very rarely give compliments, and even then these are often backhanded/ delivered in an insulting way. She rarely smiles, and most of these smiles are delivered in public as a means of sucking up to her friends or as a way of getting something that she wants. I can escape this when I go to university for 7-8 months of the year (and will escape it still further next year when I buy my own place), but the point still stands. I am worried about the mental well-being of my father and my brother living in such an atmosphere.

I also find my mother's attitude of constantly playing the victim extremely tiresome. Ever read any of the posts on here in which a guy talks about a gf who refuses to take responsibility for her actions? That's my mother right there. If you stand up to her, she will play the victim card, accuse you of rudeness/ ungratefulness, use guilt trips rather than rational argument, and (sometimes) even start crying. 95% of the time this will be enough to get my dad on side, and that is usually enough to get what she wants.

Similarly, she refuses to take responsibility for some of the negative things that have happened to the family in the last 15 or so years. She has put on a vast amount of weight since my childhood; this is attributed to "not having enough time to do exercise" rather than laziness. She has lost many of her friends in the last few years; again, this is attributed to an external cause (the nature of my father's job or even my anti-social childhood) rather than her personality or lack of proactivity. My father was a talented semi-professional sportsman in the first few years of my parents' marriage. When he stopped playing sport on a regular basis, he lost many of his best friends from adolescence as well as much of his mental well-being, and also put on weight. Whilst my father is not entirely blameless for this, my mother should also bear some responsibility.

Finally, she wants everything done on her own terms, and this is also highly irritating. To illustrate my point, there was one ridiculous occasion a few days ago where I was working on my bed. She wanted to change my sheets immediately because it suited her to do so. I was in the middle of typing something important and conceptually difficult, so I said I'd give them to her in 5 mins. So she started stripping the bed- with me still on it.

This has reached the point where it is dragging me down. I have an awesome life at university, but whenever I come home or spend extended time with my family, it is impossible not to be affected by my mother's negative influence. It has an impact on my mental health and confidence, which has negative repercussions in life as a whole and, of course, with women. Something needs to change.

If this were a simple matter of a girl I was dating, I would have been out the door long, long ago. For all their flaws, I love my parents and I don't want to see them break up. I am therefore left with the option of trying to change them. My father needs to learn to act like more of a man, and my mother needs to learn to act like more of a woman. Confronting my mother directly has proved unsuccessful. Reframing what she says and making fun of her has had limited success (it gets a laugh from the rest of the family), but ultimately has not changed her behaviour.

Thanks for reading. Any suggestions would be much appreciated.
 

Desdinova

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Sounds identical to my mother. My father on the other hand stands his ground and would rather get into an argument with my mother than give into the bytch.

There's not a lot you can do. If she's as stubborn as my mother, talking to her won't do any good. You're better off to move out when you can. You may have to tolerate her bull5hit until moving out is actually feasible.

Moved to AE...
 

FairShake

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OnTheWayUp said:
My father needs to learn to act like more of a man, and my mother needs to learn to act like more of a woman.
Kinda outdated there bruh. Man is not dominant and woman is not submissive automatically in today's world.

You can't change 20 years of behavior between parents. I had two stepfathers who treated my mom like that, dominating her emotionally. After years of trying to change her (and fighting them) I realized that she was the type who was always going to be that way and she actually preferred it even when it was insulting to her intelligence and individuality (which were both significant on her own).

You know what I did? I went AFC on her, was there to wipe her tears when she needed it, listen to her problems, try to help soften the (figureative) blows. I'm her son and that's pretty much exactly what she wanted and needed. I rarely respected what my "stepfathers" would tell me but respected her enough to do exactly what she wanted me to do. Find out how your father wants to handle it. My guess is he wants you not to make waves and you should respect that. Nothing wrong with being "AFC" for your parents.
 

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If your parents really want to change, they'd go to family counseling; as they have not made that effort, it is safe to assume that they don't truly want to change. You're no therapist, and are really in no position to help them. However your parents are, assume that they're going to be that way forever.

Honestly, the best thing that you can do as a son is leave the nest, go off, learn to fend for yourself, become excellent at the things that you do, then go back to your parents later on in a way that they're proud of you.
 

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Desdinova said:
Sounds identical to my mother. My father on the other hand stands his ground and would rather get into an argument with my mother than give into the bytch.

There's not a lot you can do. If she's as stubborn as my mother, talking to her won't do any good. You're better off to move out when you can. You may have to tolerate her bull5hit until moving out is actually feasible.

Moved to AE...
Maybe, maybe not.. My mother was very similar to what OP described. Woman could never say I love you, always pointed out the negatives and flaws, instead of pointing it out like a normal person she would turn into rage mode, yelling at the ENTIRE house. Always giving attitude with every little thing, always checking up on me to make sure I'm doing something I'm "supposed to be doing".

Around 17-19 I snapped and starting giving her lip and attitude. When she screamed at me and threatened my with physical violence, I screamed at her and said I would punch her if she tried to do anything. ( I know I was a hard kid to grow up with).

If I confronted her the way she confronted EVERY SINGLE time she would eventually fizzle out and I would go up to her and tell her "I didn't want to yell at you this way cause you are my mom, but you can't pull that kind of act. If you have something you want to say to me, say it like a normal person instead of being passive aggressive or blowing up in my face all the time. I'm not a kid anymore"

Of course she'd argue back or get mad even more sometimes... but over time she understood what I was trying to say and at 20 she doesn't really do it that much anymore.

Sometimes you are not in the wrong and your parents are. In those cases you stand up for yourself and correct them.

The reason I blew up on my mom again was that I figured if I do nothing, she will always yell at me for ****, no matter how many A's, how right I did things, or tried to concede to her standards, so I figured if she's going to be yelling in my face all the time, then I might as well blow up in her face.
 
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